Post Match Thread: Election 2017

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This guy is a sometimes funny comedian who plays a news anchor on his Youtube channel. He's obviously doing a bit, but this is the type of shit that we have to put up with in the Labour Party at the moment.



I'd remind people that Tony Blair is the only Labour leader to win a General Election in almost half a century. And he won 3 in a row.

Corbyn just lost it by 60 seats to one of the weakest campaigns in living memory.

This is a victory, somehow. Socialism is back. Fuck Blair, New Labour is dead, etc, etc, etc.

Because to many in the Labour Party, politics is a game where you have winners and losers. They think it's a fucking sport. They're not actually attempting to better anybody's lives, they just want to feel great about themselves. Selfish, arrogant, and somewhat delusional about their position in the world.

Corbyn was the strongest socialist candidate in the modern Labour Party. He lost by 60 seats. New Labour won every election it held outside of one - and that was lost to a minority Government which had to form a coalition after a financial crash and the strongest Tory leader since Thatcher.

Serial losers.
 
I do get it. Such a Queen's Speech would have nothing in it and would only need the DUP or the Lib Dems to abstain and it's toast.
The maths just doesn't work.
 
worsleyweb said:
Who is the obvious candidate to take over? Don't see a politician as talented as David Cameron.
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There is no 'obvious' candidate. Well, there is certainly not one to the fore who can unite both sides of the party and appeal to the general electorate. However, once the fear of electoral defeat gets in the nostrils, someone will be found.
 
BlueAnorak said:
I do get it. Such a Queen's Speech would have nothing in it and would only need the DUP or the Lib Dems to abstain and it's toast.
The maths just doesn't work.
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Then it would be packed with goodies for them, the DUP would have its soft border, the Lib Dems might even get proportional representation, once in a life time stuff!
 
Damocles said:
This guy is a sometimes funny comedian who plays a news anchor on his Youtube channel. He's obviously doing a bit, but this is the type of shit that we have to put up with in the Labour Party at the moment.



I'd remind people that Tony Blair is the only Labour leader to win a General Election in almost half a century. And he won 3 in a row.

Corbyn just lost it by 60 seats to one of the weakest campaigns in living memory.

This is a victory, somehow. Socialism is back. Fuck Blair, New Labour is dead, etc, etc, etc.

Because to many in the Labour Party, politics is a game where you have winners and losers. They think it's a fucking sport. They're not actually attempting to better anybody's lives, they just want to feel great about themselves. Selfish, arrogant, and somewhat delusional about their position in the world.

Corbyn was the strongest socialist candidate in the modern Labour Party. He lost by 60 seats. New Labour won every election it held outside of one - and that was lost to a minority Government which had to form a coalition after a financial crash and the strongest Tory leader since Thatcher.

Serial losers.
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What a sad deluded rant by a Tory fanboy clearly in denial.
 
BlueAnorak said:
David Davis is the best bet for the Tories. Extremely good on the Telly.
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Were he so good he would surely already be leader. The fact that he has never even been rewarded with a top Cabinet position suggests that he is perhaps not as highly regarded in the upper echelons of the Party as he is outside. I know he was Conservative Party Chairman, but I just cannot see him as leader. Further, he might not look quite so charismatic on television if the Brexit talks start going pear-shaped. :-)
 
The perfect fumble said:
I know the difference between a battle lost and a war lost, you don't seem to be able to differentiate.
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It's not a battle, or a war, or a game, or any other crap analogy you have.

It's a survey of the population's political positions and our ability to chime with them. And you heavily lost against a woman who wanted to steal kid's food and old people's houses.

Do you think maybe denigrating the only Labour position that's ever won an election since the invention of the barcode is a sensible action?

Or are you perfectly happy in spending the rest of your life in a "philosophically pure" Opposition while the Tories continue to fuck people over?

We're very different you and I. I want us to compromise so that we can actually help people. You want us to be a master race of ethics.
 
CitizenTID said:
It looks legally impossible for Tory to form a coalition with DUP as it'd be in breach of GFA so the only option to the Tories is that DUP vote in favour solution. Presume that means all 10 DUP MPs would have to fall in line.

If they are having "talks," that suggests the DUP want something for their vote. That is then in dodgy ground re: GFA too since DUP solely arguing for NI perks would not be power-sharing as NI is meant to be. So unless Sinn Fein are part of these talks, it seems legally dodgy ground to me. If the Tories/DUP can't manage an agreement it looks like Corbyn to be PM.
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I would be more worried about how Sinn Fein are going to react rather that the legality of it.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Watch the Blairites squirm....



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As much as I'm opposed to a Tory government, Corbin got 3 seats more than Brown did in 2010. That was following Iraq, 13 years in government, financial crash and Brown being very unpopular. Whilst I hope this is the start of the recovery, they really need to work out how to push on and talking of 'squirming Blairites' will just mean more years of opposition and protest, without actually making any difference whatsoever.
 
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