Kyle Walker

[domalino]

Apparently due in part to collapse of Sterling which meant that the cost of raw materials went up. That of course could reverse. However I think since the cost overshoot was announced, Sterling has fallen much further so the overshoot could be much worse than has been disclosed.

remember Wembley. Millenium Dome. major projects like these are renowned for budget overshoots.

You would have thought that if a builder is contracted to build the stadium, they carry the cost. That's what I would do to mitigate risk. Tbh I don't really know what I am talking about here so I will stop here, but just shows that Spurs are under financial pressure. They'll claim they have the financial resources in place to deal with that, and it doesn't impact on their transfer activity, but it is very noticeable just how quiet Spurs have been in the transfer mkt

How is the builder going to take a £400m extra expenditure? If it were due to delays brought on by the builders themselves fucking up, maybe, but raw materials costs?

 

[fatboy9]

Apparently due in part to collapse of Sterling which meant that the cost of raw materials went up. That of course could reverse. However I think since the cost overshoot was announced, Sterling has fallen much further so the overshoot could be much worse than has been disclosed.

remember Wembley. Millenium Dome. major projects like these are renowned for budget overshoots.

You would have thought that if a builder is contracted to build the stadium, they carry the cost. That's what I would do to mitigate risk. Tbh I don't really know what I am talking about here so I will stop here, but just shows that Spurs are under financial pressure. They'll claim they have the financial resources in place to deal with that, and it doesn't impact on their transfer activity, but it is very noticeable just how quiet Spurs have been in the transfer mkt

Raheem getting the blame for Tottingham Hotspunks misfortunes as well ;-)

 

[Marvin]

How is the builder going to take a £400m extra expenditure? If it were due to delays brought on by the builders themselves fucking up, maybe, but raw materials costs?

Well they haven;t in this cse, but I thought that is usually what happens. You tender out a contract and pick one, and the firm who commits to do the work carries the risk.

 

[nmc]

How is the builder going to take a £400m extra expenditure? If it were due to delays brought on by the builders themselves fucking up, maybe, but raw materials costs?

Builder will be transparent on costs - no way will they carry the cost burden particularly in this environment. Spurs timing isn't great to undertake such a major project.

 

[blue dallas]

No coincidence every other london clubs fans depise them
Vile 'club' on par witn rags

 

[JPBB]

The question is how do you motivate Levy to sell.

Otherwise Walker will arrive at City on the last day of the transfer window for a world record fee, not match fit and tired and depressed by the whole process. And Pep will have to put him back together again.

On option would be offer Spurs some players. However, I don't see many that Spurs would want and City would sell. Hart perhaps if Lloris goes to united? Spurs have long admired Delph at Leeds and Villa but I think they have moved on.

The other option is to give Spurs a free run at transfer target or threaten to disrupt a potential deal. However, it is not clear who Spurs targets are.

Alternatively City could make a play for Alli, Kane, or Alderweireld and selling Walker would seem the least bad option.

 

[decmancity]

We wait it out, Poch eventually will force this. He will want Walker out and I'm sure he wants to make some signings?

Levy is a knob, thinks he is dealing at the top table when in reality he has got lucky with having two world class players to sell and he made them awkward to buy so he could play out that Spurs are a top club. Levy outside of Bale and Modric hasn't exactly done any great business, bought a few players who have developed well but that is down to the coaches not him.

His buying has been on the whole I would say quite poor.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

How the fuck does that happen?

I take it you've never encountered members of the construction profession!

 

[willipp]

We wait it out, Poch eventually will force this. He will want Walker out and I'm sure he wants to make some signings?

Levy is a knob, thinks he is dealing at the top table when in reality he has got lucky with having two world class players to sell and he made them awkward to buy so he could play out that Spurs are a top club. Levy outside of Bale and Modric hasn't exactly done any great business, bought a few players who have developed well but that is down to the coaches not him.

His buying has been on the whole I would say quite poor.

Are you serious? Spurs buying has been as good as anyone's over recent years.

 

[Sensanetional]

Are you serious? Spurs buying has been as good as anyone's over recent years.

Hmm lets see:

Bad: Nkoudou, Sissoko, Janssen, N'Jie, Fazio, Stambouli, Soldado, Paulinho, Capoue, Chiriches, Chadli, Lamela

Good: Dier, Eriksen, Dele Alli, Alderweireld, Son, Wanyama. I'm going by post-Bale era but you can add Vertonghen and Lloris as well I guess.

More shit players than good players.

 

[JPBB]

Hmm lets see:

Bad: Nkoudou, Sissoko, Janssen, N'Jie, Fazio, Stambouli, Soldado, Paulinho, Capoue, Chiriches, Chadli, Lamela

Good: Dier, Eriksen, Dele Alli, Alderweireld, Son, Wanyama. I'm going by post-Bale era but you can add Vertonghen and Lloris as well I guess.

More shit players than good players.

I think you are missing the point. Levy does not scout the players. He pays for them. He tries to buy low and sell high which he does quite well.

 

[bluesince76]

Well they haven;t in this cse, but I thought that is usually what happens. You tender out a contract and pick one, and the firm who commits to do the work carries the risk.

If the contractor was carrying the risk, the initial quote would have been the £400m higher in the first place just in case.

 

[Sensanetional]

I think you are missing the point. Levy does not scout the players. He pays for them. He tries to buy low and sell high which he does quite well.

I'm not missing any point. I'm just saying that Spurs recruitment/scouting is overrated. Sure it's a low risk policy as long as some players turn out great so the duds don't matter much moneywise.

 

[willipp]

I'm not missing any point. I'm just saying that Spurs recruitment/scouting is overrated. Sure it's a low risk policy as long as some players turn out great so the duds don't matter much moneywise.

It's been a hell of a lot better then ours

 

[Carlos- the- jackal]

It's been a hell of a lot better then ours

Aye all those trophies they've accumulated over the last 5 or 6 seasons compared to our 2 league titles,2 league cups and an FA Cup, i'm jealous as fuck. .

 

[decmancity]

Are you serious? Spurs buying has been as good as anyone's over recent years.

Has it?
He has hardly plucked out players that were unheard of, he was in the right position at the right time to buy most of their key players now, including Toby, Vertonghen, Eriksen and Lloris. Kane and Alli have pretty much fallen into his lap as being as good as they are, their development and performance level is more down to Poch than Levy. Other players in their squad such as Rose, Walker and Dier have all developed under Poch.

Regardless of what 'bargains' he has found, what have they done in the past 10 years? Put the pressure on and thats about it.

Levy might want to buy a few world class players or spend some money on some players with the winning mentality instead of relying on bargains being developed by Poch just so he can sell them again.

What have spuds done with all this money he has made/saved them, fuck all. They have no trophies and were embarrassed when the pressure came on top (see the CL)

Levy seems to do well when he is spending small amounts (minimising the risk massively) but ask him to spend any money and it is a disaster, look at Lamela/Sissoko/Soldado as a few examples.

 

[willipp]

Aye all those trophies they've accumulated over the last 5 or 6 seasons compared to our 2 league titles,2 league cups and an FA Cup, i'm jealous as fuck. .

Sorry I didn't realize id said Spurs had been more successful than city, oh yes I didn't did I.

 

[Carlos- the- jackal]

Sorry I didn't realize id said Spurs had been more successful than city, oh yes I didn't did I.

Here was me thinking the recruitment of players was to help you win football matches so consequently win trophies,strage concept eh!

 

[willipp]

Here was me thinking the recruitment of players was to help you win football matches so consequently win trophies,strage concept eh!

Maybe at our level yes, but I doubt many teams recruit to win things these days, more likely to stay in the prem or try and break into the top 4. There are only 3 teams I'd say who recruit to win the league and that's us, Chelsea and united. Spurs have never been in that bracket and I doubt ever will be.

 

[JPBB]

Maybe at our level yes, but I doubt many teams recruit to win things these days, more likely to stay in the prem or try and break into the top 4. There are only 3 teams I'd say who recruit to win the league and that's us, Chelsea and united. Spurs have never been in that bracket and I doubt ever will be.

Surely this year is Liverpool's year?