UEFA or FIFA? Transfers surely are a FIFA matter, they seem to be very quiet about this transfer? Additionally there appears to be two issues, one involving perceived way around FFP and the other is wholly a tax issue. If Neymar is being given the money to buy himself out, surely he has to pay tax on that somewhere?
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UEFA or FIFA? Transfers surely are a FIFA matter, they seem to be very quiet about this transfer? Additionally there appears to be two issues, one involving perceived way around FFP and the other is wholly a tax issue. If Neymar is being given the money to buy himself out, surely he has to pay tax on that somewhere?
blueparrot
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Not really, the player signs a contract and only the player can buy himself out of the contract, it's always been the case in Spanish release clauses.Really ? That's fucking ridiculous. Isn't that envoking the Webster ruling ? Surely there is no precedent in Spain of buyout clauses solely being paid by the player.
I don't think you could make this shit up lol
So much fucking hearsay with this transfer its hard to spot the facts.
Of course I think it's fucking funny that Barca are getting a kick in the teeth, however if it's being done by some really shady goings on then it's not going to end well.
Just read an article and I believe their whole argument behind refusing the cash is that PSG are infringing FFP rules. That's absolute horseshit, they can't know that PSG won't sell players to the sum of what they spend on Neymar. They only have to stay under a 30m loss and I think that's very realistic
The thing is by doing this they are harming Barca. They need the money in so they can buy his replacement but by dragging this out they're making that impossible for them.
Doubtful, banks will provide them the funds no problem based on Neymar's eventual fee
Truth is that there is nothing to prevent Neymar's lawyers to just deposit the funds in a notarized trust account and seal the deal this way. Should be noted that the difference between PSG & Neymar paying the fee are the taxes (€70 million)
Neville Kneville
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I think you're getting mixed up mate, this part about Neymar paying it is related to this shady so-called deal where Qatar are paying him to promote the World Cup.
Which sounds exactly like the shady kind of deals mooted on here for Nike to contribute towards us signing Messi etc.
Except if it's 'shady' we wouldn't be able to do it, & nor will PSG.
lancs blue
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I seem to recall UEFA have previous for making rules on the hoof so to speak.You can't just 'pull them up' unless they are breaking a rule. And that would be pretty fucking stupid, it's not as if nobody is going to notice.
Google it Spanish football release clauseI think you're getting mixed up mate, this part about Neymar paying it is related to this shady so-called deal where Qatar are paying him to promote the World Cup.
The player must pay the release clause to li Liga, usually the buying club have given the money to the player first
Neville Kneville
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I seem to recall UEFA have previous for making rules on the hoof so to speak.
But they have to put them into legislation & then have a period of compliance.
They can't just turn round & tell PSG they are breaking a rule which doesn't exist yet.
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It won't happen, but Barca would be absolutely laughing if they got coutinho and hazard for neymar.
Neville Kneville
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It won't happen, but Barca would be absolutely laughing if they got coutinho and hazard for neymar.
Hazard will be a right pain in the arse for Chelsea if Barca make a serious move for him.
I think UEFA need to look into the legality of these very high buyout clauses then if they expect players to fund their moves. It seems like an impossible situation and imo a breach of rights. You either lower the clauses to a realistic sum or you allow clubs to fund moves.
It's well dodgy
It's well dodgy
Rammy Blue
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One thing is a fact among all this, it's very funny!
The slaughtered lamb
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They're worried that their product won't be as good when Neymar leaves. When players like him go it can have a knock on effect. Others leave and TV deals inevitably suffer.This just makes those in charge of La Liga look like a bunch of smacked arses. Maybe realising their product is not as great as they thought.
Anything other than UEFA jumping in and telling La Liga/Barca to suck it up can only be seen as discriminating against the French League and PSG.
It is indeed. What a shitstormOne thing is a fact among all this, it's very funny!
Mid Wales blue
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Brown envelopes around the back or the ground, hehe hehe ;-) . This whole saga is very strange, but very entertaining.How is it being paid ?
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Javier Tebas said: "Although PSG didn't pay the clause we will denounce them. We advised the PSG president what we were going to do and we saw PSG's policy continue along the same line. They cannot make a number in which their commercial rights are greater than those of Real Madrid and Barcelona. Nobody believes this."
That should go straight to court imo.
The quote that sums up FFP.
It was always about keeping the status quo at the top and protecting the brands.
They didn't give a shit that United could spend £30 million on a teenager 12 years ago or £30 million on a CB.
Just like they don't care about Madrid and Barcelona spending £80+ million on players.
What they have always cared about is making sure other clubs cannot challenge those sides at the top table.
This deal is about more than money. It's about an "inferior" club from and "inferior" league taking one of Barcelona's prized assets and they can do nothing about it.
The top table of football has truly shifted and it's about time.
Neville Kneville
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The quote that sums up FFP.
It was always about keeping the status quo at the top and protecting the brands.
They didn't give a shit that United could spend £30 million on a teenager 12 years ago or £30 million on a CB.
Just like they don't care about Madrid and Barcelona spending £80+ million on players.
What they have always cared about is making sure other clubs cannot challenge those sides at the top table.
This deal is about more than money. It's about an "inferior" club from and "inferior" league taking one of Barcelona's prized assets and they can do nothing about it.
The top table of football has truly shifted and it's about time.
Amen.
lancs blue
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Yes FIFA will rule on the eventual validity of the transfer but couldn't UEFA conceivably see a direct payment from Qatar to Neymar as a related party transaction in FFP terms which in turn could lead to PSG breaching FFP?UEFA or FIFA? Transfers surely are a FIFA matter, they seem to be very quiet about this transfer? Additionally there appears to be two issues, one involving perceived way around FFP and the other is wholly a tax issue. If Neymar is being given the money to buy himself out, surely he has to pay tax on that somewhere?
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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The quote that sums up FFP.
It was always about keeping the status quo at the top and protecting the brands.
They didn't give a shit that United could spend £30 million on a teenager 12 years ago or £30 million on a CB.
Just like they don't care about Madrid and Barcelona spending £80+ million on players.
What they have always cared about is making sure other clubs cannot challenge those sides at the top table.
This deal is about more than money. It's about an "inferior" club from and "inferior" league taking one of Barcelona's prized assets and they can do nothing about it.
The top table of football has truly shifted and it's about time.
Totally agree
The cartel is being broke up and sweet fa they can do about it which they will find out once this goes through