Alexis Sanchez

[HelloCity]

It's a frightening lack of knowledge.

FFP is dead, or certainly close, imo.

Why is FFP dead?

That's nothing to do with why PSG or City are spending a big amount.

In City's case for definite, we're spending a big amount because we can afford it.

 

[SilverFox2]

Why is FFP dead?

That's nothing to do with why PSG or City are spending a big amount.

In City's case for definite, we're spending a big amount because we can afford it.

Hi ManCityX

Your comments echo my thoughts but I have posted without any real knowledge.
Perhaps you could elaborate on why City can afford to pay. I assume you mean keeping within the FFP regs which are alive but not yet kicking for us.

 

[Proy]

Why is FFP dead?

That's nothing to do with why PSG or City are spending a big amount.

In City's case for definite, we're spending a big amount because we can afford it.

The 2 are not related. We are spending within the boundaries, clearly.

FFP was designed to stop club's like ourselves and PSG. I think, and it's only an opinion, that the goal posts have been seriously shifted in respect of the initial set up.

I think if they go for us again, the next legal challenge will see the end of it.

 

[Proy]

Hi Proy,

However our lack of knowledge is the problem so where do we get educated _ Seemingly the media in your eyes regurgitates what was a major problem for us and PSG because we both spend for investment so to the average City fan it seems logical we must be approaching that imbalance of income against purchases.
The amortisation of player purchases went some way to explaining how we should look at our yearly spend and a read through balance sheet thread also helps but perhaps our frightening lack of knowledge can be helped if we are given accountancy ammunition to enable the alarmist press to be countered.

Other than that only those with accountancy knowledge will be privy to the truth and we react again and again to the media speculation.

The poster I quoted challenged an opinion that was very black and white.

Nobody will ever know the full detail, but to make as many unfounded assumptions as some do is just a criminal lack of knowledge.

It's assuming that FFP is some watertight, you can't spend shit all kind of policy.

It isn't

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

"Perhaps you could elaborate on why City can afford to pay."

Just go to the FFP thread its discussed ad nauseum on there.

 

[SilverFox2]

"Perhaps you could elaborate on why City can afford to pay."

Just go to the FFP thread its discussed ad nauseum on there.

Thanks KLF but is that thread relating to FFP as it was and have the rules not been relaxed to accommodate the Milan Clubs ?
This is the problem, if we get opinion saying it is dead and buried and other opinion saying it is not but we are now safely within its parameters then it seems to be a moving target.

I think the Balance Sheet thread is trying to keep a track of our spending and presumably we will as a club be at the forefront of its current state.

 

[blueparrot]

Thanks KLF but is that thread relating to FFP as it was and have the rules not been relaxed to accommodate the Milan Clubs ?
This is the problem, if we get opinion saying it is dead and buried and other opinion saying it is not but we are now safely within its parameters then it seems to be a moving target.

I think the Balance Sheet thread is trying to keep a track of our spending and presumably we will as a club be at the forefront of its current state.

The rules have been relaxed for clubs with new owners, nothing has changed for PSG or ourselves. Whether they could enforce them now is another matter , but the rules haven't changed and ourselves and probably PSG will be within the rules by the time the window is over.

 

[BlueRockape]

Any TRANSFER news

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Any TRANSFER news

No, hence the tangentiality.

 

[Rhapsody in Blue]

Is the tide slowly turning? http://www.goal.com/en/news/amid-al...rsenal-boss-wenger/1w2399qpzt8hf1ny00df0qbl6s

 

[GunnerGer]

Is the tide slowly turning? http://www.goal.com/en/news/amid-al...rsenal-boss-wenger/1w2399qpzt8hf1ny00df0qbl6s

I'm not sure he'll be talking about Sanchez. He wants rid of Gibbs, Debuchy, Jenkinson, Lucas, Akpom, Chambers it looks like as well, perhaps Wilshere too. A lot of players who'll essentially contribute nothing, & some on good money.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I'm not sure he'll be talking about Sanchez. He wants rid of Gibbs, Debuchy, Jenkinson, Lucas, Akpom, Chambers it looks like as well, perhaps Wilshere too. A lot of players who'll essentially contribute nothing, & some on good money.

That's the way I read it too . Pretty sure Sanchez wasn't included in his thinking .

 

[SWP's back]

Perhaps you could elaborate on why City can afford to pay. I assume you mean keeping within the FFP regs which are alive but not yet kicking for us.

It's been explained to you several times bud and there are at least two other threads that detail the reason why.

 

[Robbiegunn]

Wenger just needs to cut numbers. Squad is too bloated. There were 40 players listed on the back of the programme yesterday compared to Chelseas 24. That's 3 teams worth, with 7 subs!

 

[SilverFox2]

The rules have been relaxed for clubs with new owners, nothing has changed for PSG or ourselves. Whether they could enforce them now is another matter , but the rules haven't changed and ourselves and probably PSG will be within the rules by the time the window is over.

Thanks BP. I knew something had changed but apparently not for existing owners however I am sure you are right about ourselves and PSG making sure we will be within the rules rather than testing the capability of Uefa to use them.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Wenger just needs to cut numbers. Squad is too bloated. There were 40 players listed on the back of the programme yesterday compared to Chelseas 24. That's 3 teams worth, with 7 subs!

He should start with himself.

 

[Dax777]

He's not going to bench unless he feels like he has to. That means either Jesus' form is atrocious or Aguero is banging in goals for fun. However, if they're both available and on form and he has to choose one he will take Jesus.

As any smart Manager should. If you have players of similar qualities, you should always play the significantly younger one more.

 

[SilverFox2]

It's been explained to you several times bud and there are at least two other threads that detail the reason why.

Apologies if I learn slowly but many thanks for your reply my friend.

 

[Jazzman]

Apologies if I learn slowly but many thanks for your reply my friend.

I think in short we could say that 1) City has a lot of extra revenue coming from the new TV deal, and 2) we have sold or released a serious amount of players, some of which were among the highest paid we had. While I think nobody on here knows the exact numbers it is at least quite plausible that we are able to pay for the new players with the money from point 1 and 2. Remember that amortization means that the transfer sum of a new player is distributed evenly over the time of his contract, so 50 million and a 5 years contract means we have to find 10 million per year for 5 years to be within the FFP constraints. Plus wages off course.
I also think City is expecting a better commercial deal when the Nike kit supplier deal runs out next year.
As mentioned by others there are different threads about all this, for example this one http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/balance-sheet.329243/

 

[Marvin]

Wenger just needs to cut numbers. Squad is too bloated. There were 40 players listed on the back of the programme yesterday compared to Chelseas 24. That's 3 teams worth, with 7 subs!

Congratulations on your deserved win. Both teams under-strength. You missed Koscielny, Ozil and Sanchez and Chelsea missed Bakayoko, Hazard and Morata. On the basis of that, Arsenal are as good as Chelsea, but the thing is Chelsea can fight week in week out, but can Arsenal? Would not be a shock to see Leicester take something from the Emirates.