Jack Hackett
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And there you have it, no need for further debate
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And there you have it, no need for further debate
June 13, 2007: ‘It is more down to imagination than anything else, Thierry Henry will be here next year. Can I guarantee that? Yes, of course.’
June 25, 2007: Joins Barcelona for £16.1m
June 3, 2009: ‘If he does not want to stay, he will leave but I think that he will be still at Arsenal this season.’
July 18, 2009: Joins Manchester City for £25m
July 11, 2011: ‘Will [Nasri] be at the club next season? I say yes. There is always speculation when a player has only one contract year to go and has not signed a new contract that he might leave the club. But Samir Nasri is very happy at the club and is committed to staying at the club.’
July 13, 2011: ‘We will do everything to keep Nasri at the club. My wish is that he stays here.’
August 24, 2011: Joins Manchester City for £24m.
July 11, 2011: ‘Cesc loves the club and hopefully we will manage. We know that this story for Barcelona has gone on for years now, we have to close that and focus on the season, hopefully with Cesc Fabregas.’
July 13, 2011: ‘I will be pretty clear about this. For me, Fabregas is with Arsenal for a long time and he will stay with Arsenal. It sometimes happens that the rumour can make the transfer.’
August 15, 2011: Joins Barcelona for £35m.
March 8, 2012: ‘Our plan is to keep Robin van Persie, even if we buy a player. Robin is the leader of our club. He is under contract until 2013.’
August 17, 2012: Joins Manchester United for £22m.
February 22, 2013: ‘Our desire is to keep Bacary Sagna and he knows that. We will sit down with him and we did already sit down with his agent, and we didn’t get that [negative] vibe out. He is not free in the summer so he can only leave if we let him go.’
June 13, 2014: Joins Manchester City on a free transfer.
June 25, 2007: Joins Barcelona for £16.1m
June 3, 2009: ‘If he does not want to stay, he will leave but I think that he will be still at Arsenal this season.’
July 18, 2009: Joins Manchester City for £25m
July 11, 2011: ‘Will [Nasri] be at the club next season? I say yes. There is always speculation when a player has only one contract year to go and has not signed a new contract that he might leave the club. But Samir Nasri is very happy at the club and is committed to staying at the club.’
July 13, 2011: ‘We will do everything to keep Nasri at the club. My wish is that he stays here.’
August 24, 2011: Joins Manchester City for £24m.
July 11, 2011: ‘Cesc loves the club and hopefully we will manage. We know that this story for Barcelona has gone on for years now, we have to close that and focus on the season, hopefully with Cesc Fabregas.’
July 13, 2011: ‘I will be pretty clear about this. For me, Fabregas is with Arsenal for a long time and he will stay with Arsenal. It sometimes happens that the rumour can make the transfer.’
August 15, 2011: Joins Barcelona for £35m.
March 8, 2012: ‘Our plan is to keep Robin van Persie, even if we buy a player. Robin is the leader of our club. He is under contract until 2013.’
August 17, 2012: Joins Manchester United for £22m.
February 22, 2013: ‘Our desire is to keep Bacary Sagna and he knows that. We will sit down with him and we did already sit down with his agent, and we didn’t get that [negative] vibe out. He is not free in the summer so he can only leave if we let him go.’
June 13, 2014: Joins Manchester City on a free transfer.
Neville Kneville
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I admire the way you blokes on here can calmly discuss this fucking pantomime.
There is no need for any of this. The closer it gets to the close of the window, the less happy the player is going to be, if the deal doesn't actually go through. There is no time to find a replacement either way. It would be piss easy for Wenger to have sorted this out, if he is telling the truth, just go to the board: "Back me on this or I'm selling him now" in fucking June.
How the fuck can he not 'know' if they will sell ? He hasn't asked them ? Fucking why ? It isn't important enough ?
This is the same story as everything else: MONEY. You can hear it in Wenger's comments talking about value of this v value of that & then making out he's looking t it from a football perspective, er, but...more talk of money. it's like the Monty Python accountant sketch except he became a football manager instead of a lion tamer.
If the offer is finacially, what Arsenal AND WENGER think is the value of Sanchez, they will sell him, if not, he stays.
That's it and always has been. And Wenger is one of 'them' who is in on it. Always has been. That's why he's still there.
If it was the other way round, I'd want to kill him.
Possibly. I wasn't aware of the entirety of his comments until the papers came out last night. It opens up more doubt but if they intend to sell, you have to wonder why they have not replaced him.
The other issue is that City may not even go for Sanchez. Mbappe looks the more likelier target to me
I think that's a bit dramatic mate.
Cech, Ox, Koscielny, Mustafi, Monreal, Kolasinac, Xhaka, Ramsey, Mahrez, Ozil, Lacazette is not a Stoke team, with a bench that consists of Per, Bellerin, Holding, Wilshere, Coquelin, Welbeck, Walcott, Giroud and Cazorla when fit.
It's not as strong as it would be with Sanchez, but it still should compete to a reasonable level.
uwe rosler 28
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Maybe arsenal are working on a replacement behind the scene's as they know Sanchez is going. Sanchez seems the pep type player for me with his work rate.
The slaughtered lamb
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Oh, you're spot on. And just in case my comment was misconstrued, I wasn't trying to be patronising to Arsenal fans, just pointing out that Wenger selling them a pup won't be a problem for him - he's done it so many times before. The dichotomy for Arsenal fans - great coach but he's grown another head as Kroenke's stooge. He's basically taking the piss out of them now, although they do make themselves easy to ridicule. What's that fool me once fool me twice saying???
Jazzman
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I respectfully do not agree. I think Lacazette is the replacement, and was meant to be that all the time.
Possibly. But it would be difficult, if not impossible, for Wenger to sell that one to their fans now.
Tactically Arsenal already replaced Alexis with Lacazette. If they force him to stay for a year, it will only be to try to secure the fourth place and return to the Champions League. After that they will have to invest anyway, they already spent a lot for this season (for the standards of Arsenal). If the market continues with inflation next year, they run the risk of spending much more than budgeted.
Sanchez signed for 35 million pounds!!!. For that amount nowadays it is not possible to sign someone decent !!!. It is not a bad idea to take 50 million for Alexis and improve his midfield (Özil very irregular - Cazorla with 32 years will not recover very easy) or defense (many injured).
We are technically helping Arsenal
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3 seasons in Udinese
3 seasons in Barcelona
3 seasons in Arsenal
> It's time to go !!
Sanchez signed for 35 million pounds!!!. For that amount nowadays it is not possible to sign someone decent !!!. It is not a bad idea to take 50 million for Alexis and improve his midfield (Özil very irregular - Cazorla with 32 years will not recover very easy) or defense (many injured).
We are technically helping Arsenal
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3 seasons in Udinese
3 seasons in Barcelona
3 seasons in Arsenal
> It's time to go !!
If you got Mahrez as well as Lacazette then job done. There's no point looking at what Sanchez has done in the past and thinking what can we do without that. You had him at his peak, and you still have him, but in my opinion the Sanchez of 2017-18, 18-19 wont be as productive and mahrez and Lacazette would be quality replacements. However, I think City are going for Mbappe. City's link to Evans (cheapish option) strengthens that view - Mbappe is going to be £100m plus. I do wonder why you haven't bid for Mahrez and why no one else has. I think he's an exceptional player and it amazes me that the Premiership clubs have ignored him. He was one of the two key players behind Leicester's title win.
The slaughtered lamb
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Possibly like us and Sanchez. They've agreed terms with Mahrez and he'll only go to Arsenal? Guessing of course.
J_MCFC21
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Apparently they aren't / have never been in for Mahrez. Correct me if wrong but all just paper talk.
Dangerous game as he nearly went to Roma.
The slaughtered lamb
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I don't know. I'd be surprised if they're not interested at least. Could be part of Wenger's 'master plan'. Just when the Gooners are doubting him, he pulls Mahrez out of the hat.
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What to believe though eh? Looked like Mbappe to PSG was done the other day. More smoke and mirrors than Paul Daniels.
Good post, but one thing I'd add, Mbappe I think is the no. 1 target . It's evident that City have been extremely tenacious in our bid for Mbappe
Yes, and some weak links within the team that meant Pep couldn't be as tactically diverse as he would have liked.
Talking of mental fortitude, if only Pep was in charge for that semi-final tie vs. Real Madrid. Hoping we don't freeze if (hopefully when!) we get that far this season.
Jack Hackett
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Not good enough in my view to secure top 4
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