Kylian Mbappe

[i8rags]

Oh FFS.

You said, "It's fair comment if it's based in fact." i.e. if it's not based on fact, it's not fair comment.

I replied, "Since when are opinions not "fair comment"?" i.e. since when are only facts allowable as fair comments.

This does not mean, nor even imply any old shite is fair comment. At what point exactly, did I tell you "every opinion is fair comment"? Not at any time.

Now stop being a prat.

Fair comment

 

[JCB001]

Fair comment

Thats your opinion

 

[80s Shorts]

Thats your opinion

Is it based in fact though ?

 

[goalmole]

Oh FFS.

You said, "It's fair comment if it's based in fact." i.e. if it's not based on fact, it's not fair comment.

I replied, "Since when are opinions not "fair comment"?" i.e. since when are only facts allowable as fair comments.

This does not mean, nor even imply any old shite is fair comment. At what point exactly, did I tell you "every opinion is fair comment"? Not at any time.

Now stop being a prat.

If it's not based on fact then it is by definition, any old shite and it goes back to any made up rubbish that comes out of any bodies fingertips being classed as fair comment.
I'm not saying people don't have a right to post it, they do, but don't be too surprised if somebody points it out for what it is.
So if it's ok with you I'll decide for myself what is a fair comment and what is any old shite.
Another good idea is not to resort to name calling which I never do in return but I always register my objection to, but it's always a good sign.

 

[BlueRain]

If it's not based on fact then it is by definition, any old shite and it goes back to any made up rubbish that comes out of any bodies fingertips being classed as fair comment.
I'm not saying people don't have a right to post it, they do, but don't be too surprised if somebody points it out for what it is.
So if it's ok with you I'll decide for myself what is a fair comment and what is any old shite.
Another good idea is not to resort to name calling which I never do in return but I always register my objection to, but it's always a good sign.

Seeing as I accidentally started all this I suppose I'd better wade in with another "opinion"... :)

Opinions are just people's interpretation of the facts in hand, my opinion was that PSG have (or are about to) overpay for Mbappe and shoot themselves in the foot in regards to wages etc. I came to this opinion based on what other clubs are doing in the market and careful consideration of what PSG's possible income v expenditure is. It's by no means "fact" and I wouldn't pretend otherwise but please don't be so arrogant as to try and put down what I said as "rubbish"...
All you have "pointed out" is that it's an opinion and not a fact, and labelled my opinion as "any old shite" - well done, but I stand by my opinion because as an intelligent human being I have weighed up the situation and posted my thoughts.

As much as you obviously hate people having "opinions" which cannot be backed up with facts - people also hate being told that their opinions are "old shite" - feel free to ignore my opinions if they cause you so much offence

 

[Chippy_boy]

Another good idea is not to resort to name calling which I never do in return but I always register my objection to, but it's always a good sign.

I'm not sure I respect your interpretation of what is rude and what is not. You started by saying the bloke "didn't have a clue", which I thought was inappropriate, uncalled for and quite rude actually.

 

[goalmole]

Seeing as I accidentally started all this I suppose I'd better wade in with another "opinion"... :)

Opinions are just people's interpretation of the facts in hand, my opinion was that PSG have (or are about to) overpay for Mbappe and shoot themselves in the foot in regards to wages etc. I came to this opinion based on what other clubs are doing in the market and careful consideration of what PSG's possible income v expenditure is. It's by no means "fact" and I wouldn't pretend otherwise but please don't be so arrogant as to try and put down what I said as "rubbish"...
All you have "pointed out" is that it's an opinion and not a fact, and labelled my opinion as "any old shite" - well done, but I stand by my opinion because as an intelligent human being I have weighed up the situation and posted my thoughts.

As much as you obviously hate people having "opinions" which cannot be backed up with facts - people also hate being told that their opinions are "old shite" - feel free to ignore my opinions if they cause you so much offence

Mate, you didn't start anything. You have a right to post what you want, and people have a right to reply to it. The "old shite" comment wasn't aimed at your post, if it was then I would have called it that in my original reply to you. That came up in reference to what the definition of "fair comment" should be defined as. I don't necessarily agree with what you posted, that happens a hundred times a day on here, but I haven't been offensive in any of my direct replies to your posts.
However I did object to being told what to think or not to think by a third party and said so. If you think I've offended you in any way in my exchange with Chippy Boy then accept my apology, none of that was ever aimed at you or your post.

 

[nmc]

Have a feeling - even if PSG do get Mbappe within 3 years Real will be in for him and he'll be off to Spain.

 

[BlueRain]

Mate, you didn't start anything. You have a right to post what you want, and people have a right to reply to it. The "old shite" comment wasn't aimed at your post, if it was then I would have called it that in my original reply to you. That came up in reference to what the definition of "fair comment" should be defined as. I don't necessarily agree with what you posted, that happens a hundred times a day on here, but I haven't been offensive in any of my direct replies to your posts.
However I did object to being told what to think or not to think by a third party and said so. If you think I've offended you in any way in my exchange with Chippy Boy then accept my apology, none of that was ever aimed at you or your post.

Fair enough... The reason I presumed your post was about what I said is you (rightly) pointed out that my view on PSG didn't have any "facts" to back it up (which it doesn't) but later on you said "If it's not based on fact then it is by definition, any old shite" - see how that comes across to anyone who has an opinion on anything???

 

[goalmole]

I'm not sure I respect your interpretation of what is rude and what is not. You started by saying the bloke "didn't have a clue", which I thought was inappropriate, uncalled for and quite rude actually.

The only problem with that is that I wasn't addressing you, and I didn't call him names. If he objected to what I said or he thought I was rude then he could have said so and I would have dealt with it. I'm sure he doesn't need you to stick up for him.
The appropriate course of action for you would have been to quote his post and state your approval rather than try and educate me as to what I should or shouldn't say to another poster.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Dodged an expensive bullet right there.

 

[Chippy_boy]

The only problem with that is that I wasn't addressing you, and I didn't call him names. If he objected to what I said or he thought I was rude then he could have said so and I would have dealt with it. I'm sure he doesn't need you to stick up for him.
The appropriate course of action for you would have been to quote his post and state your approval rather than try and educate me as to what I should or shouldn't say to another poster.

You're being idiotic.

My original reply was "I thought it was a fair comment actually", remember???

EDIT: You could have left it at that, couldn't you. My reply above seems to fit very well with your description below.

"I think it's pointless being on a forum if all you're going to do is nod your head and join in a circle jerk because it makes you feel you're part of something."

The ensuing SHITE is all your own work. As Donald would say,

All
Your
Own
Work
Yes it is folks
All your own

 

[goalmole]

Fair enough... The reason I presumed your post was about what I said is you (rightly) pointed out that my view on PSG didn't have any "facts" to back it up (which it doesn't) but later on you said "If it's not based on fact then it is by definition, any old shite" - see how that comes across to anyone who has an opinion on anything???

I really do believe in questioning opinion , whether on a forum or in real life. I am not saying I'm always right , far from it but I do like to probe and challenge when I can rather than just be a sheep. I never aim to offend anybody, I just think it's pointless being on a forum if all you're going to do is nod your head and join in a circle jerk because it makes you feel you're part of something.

 

[goalmole]

You're being idiotic.

My original reply was "I thought it was a fair comment actually", remember???

The ensuing SHITE is all your own work. As Donald would say,

All
Your
Own
Work
Yes it is folks
All your own

It's not as idiotic as saying that every opinion is fair comment which is what you said and what I objected to.
Say what you want but try and do it without labelling me one thing or another, it just makes you look immature.
Just read your edit.
So you think I should agree with everything anybody ever says, and say nothing when I don't. It'd be boring if we all did that, wouldn't it?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Have a feeling - even if PSG do get Mbappe within 3 years Real will be in for him and he'll be off to Spain.

Not while Florentino Pérez is in charge. Real sources stated that Mbappe would never be a Real player a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It's not as idiotic as saying that every opinion is fair comment which is what you said and what I objected to.
Say what you want but try and do it without labelling me one thing or another, it just makes you look immature.

I don't give a shite how immature it makes me look pal, you've totally lost the argument and have repeatedly (including the above) had to resort to making things up, in order to try to salvage something from your wreckage of a debate.

Show me again where I said "every opinion is fair comment". You've said that twice now, and I called you out on it the first time. Go on, knock yourself out.

Or, better, as I said, stop being a prat.

 

[citizen_maine]

It's not as idiotic as saying that every opinion is fair comment which is what you said and what I objected to.
Say what you want but try and do it without labelling me one thing or another, it just makes you look immature.
Just read your edit.
So you think I should agree with everything anybody ever says, and say nothing when I don't. It'd be boring if we all did that, wouldn't it?

I don't give a shite how immature it makes me look pal, you've totally lost the argument and have repeatedly (including the above) had to resort to making things up, in order to try to salvage something from your wreckage of a debate.

Show me again where I said "every opinion is fair comment". You've said that twice now, and I called you out on it the first time. Go on, knock yourself out.

Or, better, as I said, stop being a prat.

Could the pair of you please take your petty squabbles elsewhere?

 

[BlueRain]

I really do believe in questioning opinion , whether on a forum or in real life. I am not saying I'm always right , far from it but I do like to probe and challenge when I can rather than just be a sheep. I never aim to offend anybody, I just think it's pointless being on a forum if all you're going to do is nod your head and join in a circle jerk because it makes you feel you're part of something.

Questioning people's opinions isn't the issue - its labeling all "non fact based opinions" as "shite" that wasted 3 pages of this thread lol Everyone has an opinion and everyone has the right to post them - so... let's start again eh?

What's your opinion on the Mbappe transfer? Would City have been justified in spending huge amounts on fee's and wages? Are PSG doing the right thing throwing their money around and upsetting their current wage structure?

 

[Chippy_boy]

So you think I should agree with everything anybody ever says, and say nothing when I don't. It'd be boring if we all did that, wouldn't it?

No, I am perfectly OK with any reply you want to make. But when you start making up quotes to try support your argument, then I also feel perfectly within my rights to call you out on it.

 

[Dave S]

Could the pair of you please take your petty squabbles elsewhere?

Well said. Childish.