Alexis Sanchez

[SPIDERBOY]

The three younger players are going nowhere. Why would they? I suppose that there’s a possibility of Aguero leaving after becoming our all time top scorer and if he does I think it’ll be his decision rather than the clubs. If that’s the case then signing Sanchez makes even more sense,
Obviously given the choice I’d keep Aguero over Sanchez every day of the week. I just have this nagging feeling that Aguero is going to call his City adventure to an end.

Think we will get one more season after this with Aguero......another 20 this season and hopefully 30 ish next and he's cemented in City's history,for a generation at least.

 

[OhSoGroovy]

Alexis is putting up insane numbers this season, god dayum. (For those curious about his stats).

He’s getting 5.7 shots, 2.0 inside the box, & 3.7 key passes per 90 minutes. Insane. Shooting on Ronsldo levels, & creating on par with KDB. His overall shot contribution is another level so far. It’ll probably regress, but yeah, he definitely still has it.

These are his stats from the last 2 seasons, pointing out his elite ball-progression, overall expected goals & assists (analyzes the quality of his shots & chances created from open-play).




But yeah, now that he’s fit & getting back into his groove this season. I think it’s safe to say he’ll be outstanding again. Let’s not forget he finally gets rest this summer after so many years & wont be going all out during the international breaks because it’ll just be meaningless friendlies. A clean Sánchez for the rest of 2018 & next season with no summer competition to drag him down. I think I’ll take him tbh.

 

[St.Pauli support]

I find this "don't need him" debate quite exhausting.
A very special player wants to join City below market value and we should say "no thanks"?
Although Pep - highly accepted leading City to new dimensions - is known to be on his way to overhaul the squad by replacing mediocrity by quality.
(He will go on to upgrading the likes of Kompany, Mangala or Yaya soon.)
Forwards Navas, Nolito, Kelechi and Bony have left last summer and in came - none. Who is to cover their minutes played? Over a long season?
Adding to that our new left wingback is out injured for months, leaving Sané (21) uncovered out left. He will be burned out sooner or later this way.

Up to now we have 13 matches played out of a possible 62, the tougher weeks and big games being far ahead.
And still some masterminds can't figure out that those 4 lads up front won't be able to break up hard defending teams all the way?
Pep's got enough experience to be prepared for tougher times. He knows about risk management. He tried to sign Alexis.
He also did work with Alexis at Barca. (btw He knows Alexis isn't a center forward. Sergio is completely off topic here.)

I think many are still unable to think in Pep's dimensions. He is thinking much much bigger.
He wants to dominate more than anybody else. He wants to have huge quality throughout the whole squad and is determined to manage them all, the way he wants to. Including nutrition and all of that controlling stuff. New players will be aware of that.
May I remind of Joe, Nasri or Yaya?

So what's the point?
Alexis is high quality for several years. His Ego has to managed but if someone is able to, it must be Pep.
300k per week (now on 140k) doesn't make sense re City's pay structure. So keep cool there.
Assuming Alexis will play 80% of the matches is pure nonsense. Why should Pep sacrifice Sané's career when he fought hard to get him on board?
It's more about optimizing players' resources, adding competition and experience, and having an incredible bench to win games late.

Don't make a mistake, Pep exactly knows what he is doing. He had to swallow the mistakes from last season. He wants to win the PL and CL with City and he knows it's not a bad thing to have 1 more outstanding option to reach the very top.

I hope Sanchez will join in January.
As well as a LB.

 

[BimboBob]

Why would their form drop?

Nothing about Jesus or Sané's careers to date has suggested they're suddenly going to go to shit, and Sterlings got 150 premier league games and about to turn 23, he's ridiculously experienced and not even that young any more.

All players have drops in form. It's about having a squad that can cope with this. Sanchez coming in means players rotate more, keeping them fresh. Sanchez can play the Sane/ Sterling/ Bernard role and the Jesus/ Aguero one. Seeing as KDB is playing a little deeper this season I see a gap in the market. He's cheap, PL ready, not CL tied and nearly world class.

A no brainer.




Which is why I still say no thanks. There's something about him I don't like.

 

[dcye]

I find this "don't need him" debate quite exhausting.
A very special player wants to join City below market value and we should say "no thanks"?
Although Pep - highly accepted leading City to new dimensions - is known to be on his way to overhaul the squad by replacing mediocrity by quality.
(He will go on to upgrading the likes of Kompany, Mangala or Yaya soon.)
Forwards Navas, Nolito, Kelechi and Bony have left last summer and in came - none. Who is to cover their minutes played? Over a long season?
Adding to that our new left wingback is out injured for months, leaving Sané (21) uncovered out left. He will be burned out sooner or later this way.

Up to now we have 13 matches played out of a possible 62, the tougher weeks and big games being far ahead.
And still some masterminds can't figure out that those 4 lads up front won't be able to break up hard defending teams all the way?
Pep's got enough experience to be prepared for tougher times. He knows about risk management. He tried to sign Alexis.
He also did work with Alexis at Barca. (btw He knows Alexis isn't a center forward. Sergio is completely off topic here.)

I think many are still unable to think in Pep's dimensions. He is thinking much much bigger.
He wants to dominate more than anybody else. He wants to have huge quality throughout the whole squad and is determined to manage them all, the way he wants to. Including nutrition and all of that controlling stuff. New players will be aware of that.
May I remind of Joe, Nasri or Yaya?

So what's the point?
Alexis is high quality for several years. His Ego has to managed but if someone is able to, it must be Pep.
300k per week (now on 140k) doesn't make sense re City's pay structure. So keep cool there.
Assuming Alexis will play 80% of the matches is pure nonsense. Why should Pep sacrifice Sané's career when he fought hard to get him on board?
It's more about optimizing players' resources, adding competition and experience, and having an incredible bench to win games late.

Don't make a mistake, Pep exactly knows what he is doing. He had to swallow the mistakes from last season. He wants to win the PL and CL with City and he knows it's not a bad thing to have 1 more outstanding option to reach the very top.

I hope Sanchez will join in January.
As well as a LB.

This is a fantastic post. Cannot sum it up any better.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Get Alexis Sanchez...and this squad will be complete bar the cover for Mendy and Delph

We would have a better chance of trying to win the PL and CL

 

[FantasyIreland]

This is a fantastic post. Cannot sum it up any better.

Agreed,great post.Well said @St.Pauli support

 

[BringBackSwales]

That’s a very well crafted post. I am may

I find this "don't need him" debate quite exhausting.
A very special player wants to join City below market value and we should say "no thanks"?
Although Pep - highly accepted leading City to new dimensions - is known to be on his way to overhaul the squad by replacing mediocrity by quality.
(He will go on to upgrading the likes of Kompany, Mangala or Yaya soon.)
Forwards Navas, Nolito, Kelechi and Bony have left last summer and in came - none. Who is to cover their minutes played? Over a long season?
Adding to that our new left wingback is out injured for months, leaving Sané (21) uncovered out left. He will be burned out sooner or later this way.

Up to now we have 13 matches played out of a possible 62, the tougher weeks and big games being far ahead.
And still some masterminds can't figure out that those 4 lads up front won't be able to break up hard defending teams all the way?
Pep's got enough experience to be prepared for tougher times. He knows about risk management. He tried to sign Alexis.
He also did work with Alexis at Barca. (btw He knows Alexis isn't a center forward. Sergio is completely off topic here.)

I think many are still unable to think in Pep's dimensions. He is thinking much much bigger.
He wants to dominate more than anybody else. He wants to have huge quality throughout the whole squad and is determined to manage them all, the way he wants to. Including nutrition and all of that controlling stuff. New players will be aware of that.
May I remind of Joe, Nasri or Yaya?

So what's the point?
Alexis is high quality for several years. His Ego has to managed but if someone is able to, it must be Pep.
300k per week (now on 140k) doesn't make sense re City's pay structure. So keep cool there.
Assuming Alexis will play 80% of the matches is pure nonsense. Why should Pep sacrifice Sané's career when he fought hard to get him on board?
It's more about optimizing players' resources, adding competition and experience, and having an incredible bench to win games late.

Don't make a mistake, Pep exactly knows what he is doing. He had to swallow the mistakes from last season. He wants to win the PL and CL with City and he knows it's not a bad thing to have 1 more outstanding option to reach the very top.

I hope Sanchez will join in January.
As well as a LB.

be being greedy but I would just add that I think the squad also needs a CB adding in Jan, as we are an injury to Stones or Otamendi away from a problem

 

[TonyM]

Get Alexis Sanchez...and this squad will be complete bar the cover for Mendy and Delph

We would have a better chance of trying to win the PL and CL

We also need better cover for Ederson and Fernandinho. A bit yet to go in terms of depth.

 

[FantasyIreland]

We also need better cover for Ederson and Fernandinho. A bit yet to go in terms of depth.

We do but lets keep this thread on topic please.Ta

 

[domalino]

Forwards Navas, Nolito, Kelechi and Bony have left last summer and in came - none. Who is to cover their minutes played? Over a long season?

I certainly wake up in cold sweats worrying about how we'll make up for Bony's 0 minutes last season.

Not to mention the vast majority of Navas' game time actually came at RB, so Kyle Walker & Danilo replaced those minutes and 13 games into the season, Bernardo Silva has played 1/3rd of Nolito's minutes in the front line already, so it's more than safe to say he has replaced those minutes.

As for Iheanacho, he played a gigantic 98 minutes last season when Gabriel Jesus was available. The rest of his game time came before Jesus arrived, so in answer to that question...Gabriel Jesus replaced him.

our new left wingback is out injured for months, leaving Sané (21) uncovered out left. He will be burned out sooner or later this way.

Gabriel Jesus has still spent more of his career playing LW than striker, and we are more than capable of resting Sané by playing Jesus-Aguero-Sterling, not to mention Bernardo Silva has himself said he'll play on the left as well as the right.

[Pep] is known to be on his way to overhaul the squad by replacing mediocrity by quality.

OK, so which mediocrity in the current squad is Sanchez going to replace?



Lastly, just because this is hilarious -

(btw He knows Alexis isn't a center forward. Sergio is completely off topic here.)

I think the position that he is in now, as a striker, is perfect for him, it suits him perfectly.

- Pep Guardiola press conference after we played Arsenal in December

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...enal-away-from-lionel-messi-and-a3423176.html


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As I said from the beginning, if Pep can keep 5 world class players happy despite sitting on the bench for 40% of the season, than I will be ecstatic to see Sanchez come in, but it's never been done before in the history of the game, so questioning if it's possible is a valid concern.

Two things are definitely wrong in your post though.

1) He is not needed to replace Bony, Nolito, Navas or Kelechi's minutes
2) Guardiola definitely views him as a striker, so Aguero is very much relevant.

 

[Gabriel]

Arsenal's key period will be November and early December, when they play ourselves, Spurs, and that lot. Currently sitting fifth, they could go higher, and it could be that Arsenal remain reluctant to let him go in January; if his form in the first half of the season is so good, would they be tempted to lose him in January for a 'negligible' fee, or just keep him in the hope that he replicates it in the spring?

 

[vmsuhail]

I certainly wake up in cold sweats worrying about how we'll make up for Bony's 0 minutes last season.

Not to mention the vast majority of Navas' game time actually came at RB, so Kyle Walker & Danilo replaced those minutes and 13 games into the season, Bernardo Silva has played 1/3rd of Nolito's minutes in the front line already, so it's more than safe to say he has replaced those minutes.

As for Iheanacho, he played a gigantic 98 minutes last season when Gabriel Jesus was available. The rest of his game time came before Jesus arrived, so in answer to that question...Gabriel Jesus replaced him.




Gabriel Jesus has still spent more of his career playing LW than striker, and we are more than capable of resting Sané by playing Jesus-Aguero-Sterling, not to mention Bernardo Silva has himself said he'll play on the left as well as the right.




OK, so which mediocrity in the current squad is Sanchez going to replace?



Lastly, just because this is hilarious -

I think the position that he is in now, as a striker, is perfect for him, it suits him perfectly.

- Pep Guardiola press conference after we played Arsenal in December

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...enal-away-from-lionel-messi-and-a3423176.html


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As I said from the beginning, if Pep can keep 5 world class players happy despite sitting on the bench for 40% of the season, than I will be ecstatic to see Sanchez come in, but it's never been done before in the history of the game, so questioning if it's possible is a valid concern.

Two things are definitely wrong in your post though.

1) He is not needed to replace Bony, Nolito, Navas or Kelechi's minutes
2) Guardiola definitely views him as a striker, so Aguero is very much relevant.

Well explained. If Sanchez is willing to sit in bench and come in as a substitute more often, then I'm all for getting him. The other bonus is that we keep him away from United/Chelsea who improve so much with him in their side.

 

[Marvin]

I certainly wake up in cold sweats worrying about how we'll make up for Bony's 0 minutes last season.

Not to mention the vast majority of Navas' game time actually came at RB, so Kyle Walker & Danilo replaced those minutes and 13 games into the season, Bernardo Silva has played 1/3rd of Nolito's minutes in the front line already, so it's more than safe to say he has replaced those minutes.

As for Iheanacho, he played a gigantic 98 minutes last season when Gabriel Jesus was available. The rest of his game time came before Jesus arrived, so in answer to that question...Gabriel Jesus replaced him.




Gabriel Jesus has still spent more of his career playing LW than striker, and we are more than capable of resting Sané by playing Jesus-Aguero-Sterling, not to mention Bernardo Silva has himself said he'll play on the left as well as the right.




OK, so which mediocrity in the current squad is Sanchez going to replace?



Lastly, just because this is hilarious -

I think the position that he is in now, as a striker, is perfect for him, it suits him perfectly.

- Pep Guardiola press conference after we played Arsenal in December

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...enal-away-from-lionel-messi-and-a3423176.html


​

As I said from the beginning, if Pep can keep 5 world class players happy despite sitting on the bench for 40% of the season, than I will be ecstatic to see Sanchez come in, but it's never been done before in the history of the game, so questioning if it's possible is a valid concern.

Two things are definitely wrong in your post though.

1) He is not needed to replace Bony, Nolito, Navas or Kelechi's minutes
2) Guardiola definitely views him as a striker, so Aguero is very much relevant.

I doubt Guardiola views him as as striker now. He is more playing in the David Silva role trying to knit the midfield and forward play together.


In the Summer it was a short term move. Now there's no logic behind it other than mis-placed loyalty to a man Guardiola maybe close to

 

[Henkeman]

I find this "don't need him" debate quite exhausting.
A very special player wants to join City below market value and we should say "no thanks"?

I suspect when people say we don't need him, what they're really saying is that they're afraid someone else will end up leaving - Aguero specifically. It's an emotional loyalty to a City legend rather than a hard headed analysis, and I can understand that feeling, even if it needn't happen that way.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I suspect when people say we don't need him, what they're really saying is that they're afraid someone else will end up leaving - Aguero specifically. It's an emotional loyalty to a City legend rather than a hard headed analysis, and I can understand that feeling, even if it needn't happen that way.

why would you get rid of aguero though ? probably in the best form of his career this season, works harder then ever. i wouldnt swap him for sanchez. thats not emotion talking.

 

[Henkeman]

why would you get rid of aguero though ? probably in the best form of his career this season, works harder then ever. i wouldnt swap him for sanchez. thats not emotion talking.

"Will end up leaving" is not the same as "get rid of" though, is it? Personally, I don't think it's a problem - City had four strikers at one point a couple of years ago - but that's what I suspect the "we don't need him" posts are subconsciously about. Some may come along to tell me that's not the case, and fair enough.

 

[SWP's back]

Up to now we have 13 matches played out of a possible 62, the tougher weeks and big games being far ahead.
And still some masterminds can't figure out that those 4 lads up front won't be able to break up hard defending teams all the way?

A very important point. 1/5th of the way through a possible season. We were a seatbelt away from relying on a 21 year old for 4/5ths of our season.

 

[SWP's back]

Now there's no logic behind it other than mis-placed loyalty to a man Guardiola maybe close to

Not sure where to begin with that so won’t suffice to say you’ve just don’t a Marvin.

 

[domalino]

A very important point. 1/5th of the way through a possible season. We were a seatbelt away from relying on a 21 year old for 4/5ths of our season.

And if Ederson was in a car crash we'd have Bravo in goal for 4/5ths of out season.

And if Fernandinho was in a car crash we'd have Yaya playing every game for 4/5ths of the season.

And if Stones was in a car crash we'd have Mangala playing every game for 4/5ths of the season.

And if Delph was in a car crash we'd have Zinchenko? playing LB every game for 4/5ths of the season.

Relying on Jesus is better than the same situation in pretty much every other area of the squad.