Singing section/Atmosphere

come-on-barney said:
Interesting - I observed completely the opposite. A lot of SC holders are not in the cup scheme or didn't turn up. For Bristol and Burnley had different people around me and what a difference. Very passionate and join in the singing. I don't know if these are relocated fans or fans just picking up tickets in the cup but much more enjoyable. Back to the regulars next and a more subdued atmosphere.

The other thing is why on earth do we give opposition fans a prime location rather than sticking them high up in the corners.
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its fans that cant usually afford to go. people that would go every week if it was cheaper. all you have to do was look around last night and see how many more younger people were there swell. for league games you never see that - its mainly 50+ year olds. this thread is in part a reaction to last night, but cup games aren't the problem. its league games that are awful. the burnley game and last for me were louder and there was more shouting/encouragement then most league games this season, not much in terms of singing admittedly.

for me for a lot of season ticket holders go out of habit. they dont really enjoy it. lots of season ticket holder dont bother with cup games, even if its really cheap.
 
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The other thing is why on earth do we give opposition fans a prime location rather than sticking them high up in the corners.[/QUOTE]

100% with you here - to have away fans on level 1 or even level 2 is simply crazy.
Which idiot thought of that great idea ?
 
Don’t forget as well that a lot of season ticket holders From ss3 on the scheme were moved to ss1 last night .The problem for me is where the away fans are situated think this is the root of the problem.Think the reason the section is there is that it’s easier to police,therefore that’s why it’s the away section with easier access to Ashton New Road blah blah blah
 
Alcatraz said:
The other thing is why on earth do we give opposition fans a prime location rather than sticking them high up in the corners.
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100% with you here - to have away fans on level 1 or even level 2 is simply crazy.
Which idiot thought of that great idea ?[/QUOTE]

It's now a premier League requirement that away fans have some tickets by the pitch and not all up in the gods. I can only assume Newcastle get away with it because of police input or something along those lines. Not too sure how United do unless they say the disabled tickets in front of the section are classed as by the pitch.
 
Alcatraz said:
The other thing is why on earth do we give opposition fans a prime location rather than sticking them high up in the corners.
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100% with you here - to have away fans on level 1 or even level 2 is simply crazy.
Which idiot thought of that great idea ?[/QUOTE]
Where do you propose they go ? they are as far away from the pitch as possible
 
First of all, maximum respect for anyone proposing new ideas or more importantly actually singing their hearts out to increase the atmosphere on match days. I do think it's important however to keep perspective. Whilst there maybe things the club can do to increase atmosphere, as a general rule, the greater the expectation of the home side to win a football match (not just City but any club) - the less engaged their fan base will become. Add in the minority factor of the 'Away fan' on a booze filled day out and you have the perfect recipe for fans like Burnley on Saturday and Bristol City last night to go berzerk over winning a throw in near our penalty box. It's human nature. Personally I'm not a big singer but I celebrate any goal now as enthusiastically as I did when we were s***.

I noticed several tweets last night along the lines of 'Your team may cost 700 million but money can't buy support like this' blah blah blah - I'd be interested to know what the atmosphere is like at Ashton Gate when they play a Rotherham or any other team below them in the Pyramid they see fit to rest half their team against.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Yeah these pesky kids , they should be flicking the vs at the opposition fans and singing “you’re going to get your fucking head kicked in.”

Here we go, the singing section don’t sing and create atmosphere and it’s the family stands fault.

There are plenty of blues in the south stand and to the other side of the away fans. As for it’s much noisier at the top tier as demonstrated last night by Bristol and Burnley . Christ most games the entire top tier of the south stand is city fans.

The fact is the home fans are spoilt and want us to be a couple of goals up against top tier opposition before atmosphere is created.

Listen to our away support very vocal. I dunno may be our away fans are a bit more pissed and on a day out so we enjoy ourselves a bit more and join in the singing.

Whatever it is it’s not the family stands fault.
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Think you'll find I said it was an observation not attributing blame...
 
GaudBlessYa said:
First of all, maximum respect for anyone proposing new ideas or more importantly actually singing their hearts out to increase the atmosphere on match days. I do think it's important however to keep perspective. Whilst there maybe things the club can do to increase atmosphere, as a general rule, the greater the expectation of the home side to win a football match (not just City but any club) - the less engaged their fan base will become. Add in the minority factor of the 'Away fan' on a booze filled day out and you have the perfect recipe for fans like Burnley on Saturday and Bristol City last night to go berzerk over winning a throw in near our penalty box. It's human nature. Personally I'm not a big singer but I celebrate any goal now as enthusiastically as I did when we were s***.

I noticed several tweets last night along the lines of 'Your team may cost 700 million but money can't buy support like this' blah blah blah - I'd be interested to know what the atmosphere is like at Ashton Gate when they play a Rotherham or any other team below them in the Pyramid they see fit to rest half their team against.
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They packed 13,000 in against stoke city in an earlier round.......place must have been rocking with all that loyal, vocal , passionate support.
 
Is the ground really good at projecting sounds?

I only ask because every time a thread like this pops up people in SS3 say it's bouncing and noisy up there yet it sounds silent from lvl 1, 1894 group say games were atmospheric yet from another part of the ground those same games in SS1 it sporadic and sometimes silent.
even 110/111 which sound noisy seems quieter.

Not saying these places aren't noisy but is it echoing around the ground

Now when the palce is bouncing you can hear it from all angles, but seems like if one area is singing it isn't traveling well around the ground

Where I am in120 a few sing around us including me but not enough.

Also most near me will join in with city songs and players songs but stop once songs about the rags start, unless round derny day.
 
GaudBlessYa said:
First of all, maximum respect for anyone proposing new ideas or more importantly actually singing their hearts out to increase the atmosphere on match days. I do think it's important however to keep perspective. Whilst there maybe things the club can do to increase atmosphere, as a general rule, the greater the expectation of the home side to win a football match (not just City but any club) - the less engaged their fan base will become. Add in the minority factor of the 'Away fan' on a booze filled day out and you have the perfect recipe for fans like Burnley on Saturday and Bristol City last night to go berzerk over winning a throw in near our penalty box. It's human nature. Personally I'm not a big singer but I celebrate any goal now as enthusiastically as I did when we were s***.

I noticed several tweets last night along the lines of 'Your team may cost 700 million but money can't buy support like this' blah blah blah - I'd be interested to know what the atmosphere is like at Ashton Gate when they play a Rotherham or any other team below them in the Pyramid they see fit to rest half their team against.
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Been mate and as 'Gas' said it's normally shocking that is what made me laugh last night. It's like the teams that come up from the Championship, take Bournemouth first time they came to the Etihad big following. Stoke first few seasons and so on. Look at how many Bournemouth brought this time. As soon as fans become familiar with it then the atmosphere starts to go. Look at all the bug clubs atmosphere not that great except for a few matches. Matches like last night are huge for Bristol City and hence the following and the noise level. If they were promoted after a couple of seasons the 'norm' would set in. It's not just us.
 
jrb said:
After I got home last night I watched the last 10 minutes of the match.

I was absolutely amazed at how loud and noisy the Bristol City fans were.

Where I stand at the back of 115, and under the overhang, I only heard them briefly throughout the match. I wrkngly thought they were very quiet.

As we know, the stadium is dreadful for noise to travel around it. Unfortunately this can never be fixed

8000 away fans in SS2 and SS3 sounded impressive on the TV. They are killing the home support in cup games.
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They were absolutely superb mate. As were Wolves when they came. Less so Burnley but in fairly recent years Sheffield Wednesday were outstanding too.
 
urban genie said:
Is the ground really good at projecting sounds?

I only ask because every time a thread like this pops up people in SS3 say it's bouncing and noisy up there yet it sounds silent from lvl 1, 1894 group say games were atmospheric yet from another part of the ground those same games in SS1 it sporadic and sometimes silent.
even 110/111 which sound noisy seems quieter.

Not saying these places aren't noisy but is it echoing around the ground

Now when the palce is bouncing you can hear it from all angles, but seems like if one area is singing it isn't traveling well around the ground

Where I am in120 a few sing around us including me but not enough.

Also most near me will join in with city songs and players songs but stop once songs about the rags start, unless round derny day.
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Anytime any half decent set of fans have tickets in Level 3, even just for normal league games where they get just 3000 tickets, they easily make more noise than our Singing Section.

Then on nights like last night it's just a joke. In terms of atmosphere our Singing Section may as well walk out and go home leaving it empty because that's how much impact they have on the atmosphere when 7000 fans are above them.

I cannot implore enough OUR SINGING SECTION HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE!

We must create our own "away" stand at our own ground for our own fans, well away from the actual away fans.

Not a small single tier, not one little block (one of the reasons it's not worked is because it's not worth being part of so thousands who would join a proper stand think "what's the fucking point in joining a pitiful block?!"), a full stand!
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
Anytime any half decent set of fans have tickets in Level 3, even just for normal league games where they get just 3000 tickets, they easily make more noise than our Singing Section.

Then on nights like last night it's just a joke. In terms of atmosphere our Singing Section may as well walk out and go home leaving it empty because that's how much impact they have on the atmosphere when 7000 fans are above them.

I cannot implore enough OUR SINGING SECTION HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE!
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Yeah I believe you, but where I am in 120 you cannot hear level 3 any game, level 2 when it makes noise, like bristol last night, yes you can hear, but level 3, not a peep, that's why I asked is the extention built to echo sound down, because I cannot hear it down below.

Also not denying the singing section is poor many a game, the atmosphere is dire sometimes.

East stand should be safe seating on level one £15 per game season ticket holders and £20 cityzens stick the away fans in corner up top and reduce the family stand too and move it where them all leaving early isn't so noticable.
 
urban genie said:
Yeah I believe you, but where I am in 120 you cannot hear level 3 any game, level 2 when it makes noise, like bristol last night, yes you can hear, but level 3, not a peep, that's why I asked is the extention built to echo sound down, because I cannot hear it down below.

Also not denying the singing section is poor many a game, the atmosphere is dire sometimes.

East stand should be safe seating on level one £15 per game season ticket holders and £20 cityzens stick the away fans in corner up top and reduce the family stand too and move it where them all leaving early isn't so noticable.
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Totally agree.
 
The club could make the NS lower tier a singing section, but it would end up like the South stand lower tier, with a mixture of singers and non singers.

I honestly don't think there is an appetite from our owner and directors to create a proper single or double tiered NS singing end, similar to the KOP, Stretford End, new Spurs single tier, Yellow Wall at Dortmund, etc. They seem to be happy with the current Family Stand setup.

Hope to be proven wrong. Not holding my breath, though.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Anytime any half decent set of fans have tickets in Level 3, even just for normal league games where they get just 3000 tickets, they easily make more noise than our Singing Section.

Then on nights like last night it's just a joke. In terms of atmosphere our Singing Section may as well walk out and go home leaving it empty because that's how much impact they have on the atmosphere when 7000 fans are above them.

I cannot implore enough OUR SINGING SECTION HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE, HAS TO MOVE!

We must create our own "away" stand at our own ground for our own fans, well away from the actual away fans.

Not a small single tier, not one little block (one of the reasons it's not worked is because it's not worth being part of so thousands who would join a proper stand think "what's the fucking point in joining a pitiful block?!"), a full stand!
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I cannot implore enough OUR SINGING SECTION HAS TO SING, HAS TO SING, HAS TO SING.
 
People are talking about this as if it's an issue with City alone. The introduction of safe standing and reduced prices would help, but every football club has plenty of quiet games, every football club has frequent empty seats. During CL group stages, people always bang on about Celtic having the best support in the world. Watch them any of time of the year and it's no different to any other ground, along with hundreds of empty seats. Last night was Bristol's biggest game of recent times, hence in the great support.
 
Regardless of last night the singing section needs improve, its piss poor most games. I sit in east stand 107 and we can rarely hear them much, we try to sing but doesnt follow on so i get that its a bigger problem than just the south stand but they are responsible for getting it going.

I agree with most on here saying away fans should be moved or singing section merged with kippax corner either in northstand or east stand to create a kippax style vibe.

Be careful though, ya can get called a rag for criticising the atmosphere on here.....
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
They were absolutely superb mate. As were Wolves when they came. Less so Burnley but in fairly recent years Sheffield Wednesday were outstanding too.
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Let's face it it's their big day out nowadays isn't it. Always going to be better. Some of those Bristol City fans have probably not been to an away game since they last had a draw like this.

Based on this seasons results there seems to be little correlation betweeen winning and singing anyway.
 
Considering this is still being debated, I really hope some of you will join in on our singing section for Basel at home. We are all good lads and possess a potential solution for atmosphere. More than happy to answer any questions as well if you see us about. You can apply for the singing section here:
https://www.1894groupmcfc.co.uk/singingsection
 
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