Liverpool (A) Post Match Thread.

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On soccer sat interview Klopp said the 5-0 hurt and he wanted revenge, they have been harbouring a sense of injustice since we beat them to the title.
Basically they wanted to beat us and played out of their skin, much like everton stepped up under moyes against us out of some form of need.

Their game seemed to rattle ferdy and otter in particular and we were sloppy at times.

I still think it was a foul on stones, but the 10 mins after when we lost our heads is poor from us, and despite scousers saying 4-3 flattered us, I don't think there was much in it.

We were architects of our own downfall, but liverpools game played a part in that
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Interesting that they seem to be able to chase around for 90 minutes with those energy levels when we looked tired.
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We had played twice since they last played, so hardly surprising.

The second goal should never have happened anyway, as KdB was fouled in their half before the ball got anywhere near our goal, so instead of defending, we should have been taking a free kick towards their goal, and we were on top at that point, but once again a referee influenced the result, and there followed a period of madness which is hard to explain from our point of view.
 
they're always up for it, difficult places to go and we go there as both a scalp and beatable. Dipper players have a number of wins over us there so no matter how average their side is when it comes to our game they know and believe they can do us, regardless of the quality or superiority of our side. Meanwhile, we go there with a side that only has Delph in it with a win as a visiting player at Anfield in the league and with the weight of a record that says "this is really hard, and we don't win here and they'll be up for it".

We broke OT with the 6-1 and backed it up. We haven't had that moment at Anfield and the Dippers don't fear losing to us, they just pathologically love beating us. If we could have upset them when it really hurt it may have been different, but both in 13/14 and yesterday we capitulated and allowed them to keep their aura.

We've pretty much lost the psychological battle before we turn up, we need to get over that somehow but it's difficult to see what we change that will cope with the Anfield press and pressure that we continually falter under.
 
Blue Til Death said:
Keep calm and carry on, we lost a game, so what, it was bound to happen sooner or later, it will be a wake up call, nothing more, we will still be 12 clear once the rags take Stoke to the cleaners tonight...! The dippers had their cup final yesterday, nothing more nothing less, in the scheme of things, aside form giving those vile twats something to shout about, its a meaningless result.. Will we get a reaction against Newcastle, fuckin right we will, Come on City...!!!!
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The sides below us have to do everything right from here on and we muck up a fair bit for us to open the door.

Neither of the above look like happening although the league is tough and you don't want to give anybody else a sniff if you can.

Worried about the injuries in defence now however and think we need some insurance in January or failing that in DM as if Ferny is off the boil we become more vulnerable and give oppositions of any quality more chances to score.
 
cleavers said:
We had played twice since they last played, so hardly surprising.

The second goal should never have happened anyway, as KdB was fouled in their half before the ball got anywhere near our goal, so instead of defending, we should have been taking a free kick towards their goal.
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Thought the same.
 
Thought we missed David quite a bit tbh, his ability to hold the ball past their press and to move their midfield about would have helped us a lot last night. Sergio was awful last night, constantly slowing down play but then trying to do too much with it and losing the ball, leaving us overloaded in defence. Luckily for us, we have a weeks rest and the next few games *on paper* aren't as difficult as they could be so we can get Jesus back and ready.

We had a 15 minute spell of losing the plot defensively, much like they did against us. But the one real positive for me was the drive we showed at the end, even though it was too late, we kept doing what Pep wants us to do and not just hoof it up top.

Bottom line is, we play risky football that has big rewards and those rewards have been constant this season, it was bound to fail at some point. But IIRC, the same thing happened for Bayern against Dortmund and they still had a good season so nothing to panic about.
 
I can take a defeat (especially when the first is middle of Jan with 15 point gap, 12 at worst by the end of today) and we did crumble a bit 2nd half. Most baffling thing was that D.Silva wasnt called upon because it was crying out for someone to steady the ship.
 
We are still by far the best team in the league and an away loss to probably the 2nd best team isn't the end if the world.
 
Not surprised we lost at Anfield (yet again). For me Liverpool have the best attack in the league when they click. YESTERDAY WE DIDN'T HELP OURSELVES ON THAT SCORE. But we're allowed a blip. We are top by some margin for a reason and this defeat changes nothing at all. We're champions elect.

It does however annoy me a little as it could have been avoided. As I said none of the defence played well goalkeeper included. We should have started with Silva ahead of Gundogan. Yet again Gun disappointed. And why oh why do we play Sterling against Liverpool? He's never yet had a good game. Come to think of it he's never had an average game against them. Always poor. It's in is head as the ability to affect the outcome of a game is there.

Roll on to Newcastle and back to business as usual. I expect the perfect response and I think we'll get it.
 
Thought we missed Silva yesterday. In a high octane game he just gives you time and space. Punished in a mad 15 minute spell, but what character we showed and in the end could have forced a draw. It’s gone. We focus on Newcastle and get back to winning ways
 
Judging by the reaction of the media and opposition fans I honestly think they were expecting us to go unbeaten for the entire season. I knew we would lose a game eventually and I'm just glad it was in a game where we played poorly against a club who played like it was their cup final.
I've heard many Liverpool fans say that was their best performance of the season, they'll go back to being dog shit, where we will go back to being better organised and take Newcastle apart.
Moments like these define what kind of club you are..... a club challenging for the top with the ability to take a defeat on the chin, or a club clinging onto past time glory, who only show up in 2 games out of 38, with the inevitability to consistently be proactive after a string of half decent results.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
Good stuff Colin. Yes Stones felt that Ederson should have come for the ball and had a go at him after the goal went in. Everyone else knew that Stones should have cleared the ball.

Liverpool knee they could continue to press as we struggled to find a longer ball option with our cross field balls a bit hit and miss. We could have done with a more physical presence at centre forward to hold the ball up so that we could regroup. That’s not really our style though.
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Stones should have done better but he was barged in the back and however soft or hard that barge, it was clear and Firmino gained an advantage from it so that is a foul in my book. We don't know what Stones would have done if he had not been fouled.

I don't think we need a more physical presence at centre forward to hols up the ball, I believe both Aguero and Jesus should be able to do that when the ball is played into them. I think Aguero, loses the ball more than he should.
 
That loss feels even worse after 15+ hours. In the pre-match thread I said I was not worried about playing Dippers after our Napoli games. How mistaken I was!
 
Not surprising our first loss was at Anfield.

Kopp has a better record than most against Pep. He knows what's required. High energy, clinical finishing and luck.

It reminded me a bit of Bayern's 2 CL semi losses against Real and Barca. Lots of possession against a team defending deep with 3 quality forwards.

Our midfield trio were not close together yesterday.
 
Yesterday we were disjointed.
Some players were not at their best.
Liverpool were lucky with their second goal, a foul should have been awarded to us in the build up to it.
As for the 3rd goal, Ederson's fault but he comes out a lot for the ball and usually finds one of our players.
Liverpool were rested and fired up for the match, more than any other this season imo, yet they came very close to throwing the win away.
A disappointing outcome but not the end of the world.
One thing that nobody seems to have touched on is that Liverpool are now on the same points as the rags which will make the battle for the next four places interesting....
 
BJL_City said:
they're always up for it, difficult places to go and we go there as both a scalp and beatable. Dipper players have a number of wins over us there so no matter how average their side is when it comes to our game they know and believe they can do us, regardless of the quality or superiority of our side. Meanwhile, we go there with a side that only has Delph in it with a win as a visiting player at Anfield in the league and with the weight of a record that says "this is really hard, and we don't win here and they'll be up for it".

We broke OT with the 6-1 and backed it up. We haven't had that moment at Anfield and the Dippers don't fear losing to us, they just pathologically love beating us. If we could have upset them when it really hurt it may have been different, but both in 13/14 and yesterday we capitulated and allowed them to keep their aura.

We've pretty much lost the psychological battle before we turn up, we need to get over that somehow but it's difficult to see what we change that will cope with the Anfield press and pressure that we continually falter under.
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Interesting that some believe there is a psychological or mental issue about City playing at Anfield and some don't. I think it is relevant to both sets of players; I don't think it is the only factor but when they retook the lead against the run of play following a move that could have been stopped on two occasions by the ref, I think our record there got into the heads of both sets of players.
 
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