Mr Blue Moon
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So is that singular focus on the Premier League or Champions League?
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Do you really believe the league is over...?
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So is that singular focus on the Premier League or Champions League?
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If Liverpool beat United and we beat Stoke then we only need 6 points.
For me the 'when' will be decided based upon this weekends results, if we win and United don't then we will win it in the derby...!
They will probably beat Liverpool though, they HAVE to to prevent the above.
For me the 'when' will be decided based upon this weekends results, if we win and United don't then we will win it in the derby...!
They will probably beat Liverpool though, they HAVE to to prevent the above.
Fred_Quimby
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If Liverpool beat United and we beat Stoke then we only need 6 points.
For me the 'when' will be decided based upon this weekends results, if we win and United don't then we will win it in the derby...!
They will probably beat Liverpool though, they HAVE to to prevent the above.
Please see my previous, even if they beat dippers, we win the league against them IF we beat Stoke and Everton.
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]If Liverpool beat United and we beat Stoke then we only need 6 points.
For me the 'when' will be decided based upon this weekends results, if we win and United don't then we will win it in the derby...!
They will probably beat Liverpool though, they HAVE to to prevent the above.
I think you are wrong! If Liverpol win all their games before the Derby they can still get one point more than us.
kippax81
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For me, the league has been over since the game at Stamford Bridge.
We went into that game at a stage in the season where there were several teams thinking that they could win the title, including Chelsea. At the home of the defending champions, I thought we would get a point and maybe all three in a closely fought game...the reality was completely different.
We not only beat Chelsea, we destroyed them, on their own patch. Controlling a game in a manner that hadn't really been seen before in England, with superior tactics of power, pace, movement, closing down and superb passing. This, in my opinion, was the defining moment when the rest of the league sat up and thought "FUCK". Maybe not supporters and journos but the people that really matter, players and managers - psychologically they were beaten. Professionals at every other club saw that performance and recognised something very special indeed was happening under Pep.
From that moment on teams, were beaten before they went onto the pitch against us with the exception of one match at Anfield (even then we nearly came away with a point).
All in my humble opinion of course.
We went into that game at a stage in the season where there were several teams thinking that they could win the title, including Chelsea. At the home of the defending champions, I thought we would get a point and maybe all three in a closely fought game...the reality was completely different.
We not only beat Chelsea, we destroyed them, on their own patch. Controlling a game in a manner that hadn't really been seen before in England, with superior tactics of power, pace, movement, closing down and superb passing. This, in my opinion, was the defining moment when the rest of the league sat up and thought "FUCK". Maybe not supporters and journos but the people that really matter, players and managers - psychologically they were beaten. Professionals at every other club saw that performance and recognised something very special indeed was happening under Pep.
From that moment on teams, were beaten before they went onto the pitch against us with the exception of one match at Anfield (even then we nearly came away with a point).
All in my humble opinion of course.
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I think you are wrong! If Liverpol win all their games before the Derby they can still get one point more than us.
Watch my lips. Max number of points dippers can get, even if they beat rags AND win all their other games this season is 87 which is 9 points more than we have now. So win our next 3, Stoke, Everton, and Rags, 3 x 3 = 9, so level with them with a hugely better GD. Not 1 point difference. Hope you follow the maths. :)
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For me, the league has been over since the game at Stamford Bridge.
We went into that game at a stage in the season where there were several teams thinking that they could win the title, including Chelsea. At the home of the defending champions, I thought we would get a point and maybe all three in a closely fought game...the reality was completely different.
We not only beat Chelsea, we destroyed them, on their own patch. Controlling a game in a manner that hadn't really been seen before in England, with superior tactics of power, pace, movement, closing down and superb passing. This, in my opinion, was the defining moment when the rest of the league sat up and thought "FUCK". Maybe not supporters and journos but the people that really matter, players and managers - psychologically they were beaten. Professionals at every other club saw that performance and recognised something very special indeed was happening under Pep.
From that moment on teams, were beaten before they went onto the pitch against us with the exception of one match at Anfield (even then we nearly came away with a point).
All in my humble opinion of course.
This was my favourite game of the season for all the reasons you say. The Kevin De-Bruyne goal especially was brilliant. I like close games (scoreline wise) that finish 1-0 with the goal scored at a crucial time late in the game and the best team winning.
I know I'm being soft but I still felt a bit anxious when the rags won 3-2 v palace the other night. That late goal pissed me off. But I try to think rationally - the gap is still 16 points and this team is very professional and full of hard bastards - physically and mentally. They are not typical City !
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Watch my lips. Max number of points dippers can get, even if they beat rags AND win all their other games this season is 87 which is 9 points more than we have now. So win our next 3, Stoke, Everton, and Rags, 3 x 3 = 9, so level with them with a hugely better GD. Not 1 point difference. Hope you follow the maths. :)
good man I do indeed. So we would not technically still have won it - even if we win the next 3 but as good as. I still want the Rags and Dippers to draw. Then us win the next 3 and we can have a party.
Watch my lips. Max number of points dippers can get, even if they beat rags AND win all their other games this season is 87 which is 9 points more than we have now. So win our next 3, Stoke, Everton, and Rags, 3 x 3 = 9, so level with them with a hugely better GD. Not 1 point difference. Hope you follow the maths. :)
But it wouldn't be 100% mathematically certain if there was still the goal difference issue.
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But it wouldn't be 100% mathematically certain if there was still the goal difference issue.
I would be pretty relaxed at that point though!
Good news and bad news, NMC.
The good news is the winnings are tax free.
The bad news is that the best odds are about 1,000 to one on. By my calculations this means you would would win one twentieth of a p or, as we would say politely, Sweet Fanny Adams.
See, this is the kind of thing that intrigues me. How could they pay that out? What would they do?
Fred_Quimby
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But it wouldn't be 100% mathematically certain if there was still the goal difference issue.
Very true. My point was there wouldn’t be 1 point difference. Let’s hope the rags can get something from their game then maybe we can party. Of course we mustn’t forget that we have to win our games as well.
kippax81
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This was my favourite game of the season for all the reasons you say. The Kevin De-Bruyne goal especially was brilliant. I like close games (scoreline wise) that finish 1-0 with the goal scored at a crucial time late in the game and the best team winning.
I know I'm being soft but I still felt a bit anxious when the rags won 3-2 v palace the other night. That late goal pissed me off. But I try to think rationally - the gap is still 16 points and this team is very professional and full of hard bastards - physically and mentally. They are not typical City !
I think that what we are witnessing now is the new "typical City" and, as you say, full of hard bastards, with the emphasis on the mental toughness that has been instilled into them. I think a lot of professional sports are decided by who is mentally tougher and having a "serial" winner like Pep as a coach and mentor cannot be underestimated.
Chelsea away was also my favourite game of the season. A masterclass.
PragueBlue
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See, this is the kind of thing that intrigues me. How could they pay that out? What would they do?
They wouldn't take such a bet in the first place.
They wouldn't take such a bet in the first place.
Well, you're no fun!
I would be pretty relaxed at that point though!
Ha ha ha probably me too.
Although if any team could do it it would be the Best Attacking Team in the League™, who also happen to have averaged over 0.5 goals less per game this season than we have...
Very true. My point was there wouldn’t be 1 point difference. Let’s hope the rags can get something from their game then maybe we can party. Of course we mustn’t forget that we have to win our games as well.
Got you.
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I think you are wrong! If Liverpol win all their games before the Derby they can still get one point more than us.
Nope - Before the derby Liverpool can get 9 points yes and us 6 but by the derby they will have 6 games left which is 18 points maximum.
If we win the next 3 with the derby being the 3rd then the gap will be 18 points and Liverpool cannot get more than 18 points which means GD (assuming they beat United).
We are 4 wins away from mathematically deciding it but we can effectively decide it on GD by winning the next 3 if United do not win this weekend.
If United win then just swap them for Liverpool because we can win on GD by winning the derby.
PragueBlue
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Well, you're no fun!
Not the first time I've had that said about me ;-)