'All Or Nothing' - discussion of documentary

Strange Pep never seemed bothered about any opposition during the season until Liverpool in the Champions league, and was too honest about that on camera.
Don't forget it was edited retrospectively and they have to have dramatic effect and they were some of the most crucial games of the season. I wouldn't read too much into it, he was warning about Chelsea at half time in our home match when they barely crossed the half way line.
 
I love Vinny but his knowledge of South African history isn’t what it could be
Without wishing to turn this into a political thread. I suspect he was trying to get tothe essence to explain to the school children about Apartheid and Mandela when asked rather than give a detailed explanation.
 
Watched the lot and my wife and I really enjoyed it, but, I'll probably not watch it again. It has a handful of revealing moments, most of the Pep team talks are made incomprehensible by bad sound and Pep's all round incomprehensibility, for a documentary about a football team there's very little about football, so anyone coming to it not knowing much about last season probably won't understand just how monumental breaking all those records was.

Nothing about Sergio's taxi accident? I still don't know what Kiddo does, as for the attack on the bus, I'm none the wiser and would it not have added to the story to reveal that Liverpool went on to lose the CL final? Very little of anything was explored in depth, nothing about Pep's relationship with the media, or how the media treats us generally, the poor refereeing, the time wasting, the systematic fouling as a deliberate tactic, or our relationship with the football establishment.

On the whole a piece a corporate fluff sprinkled with fly on the wall camera angles and a bit of swearing, with a narrative bolted on for those who usually watch their sport eating popcorn and swigging Budweiser. There was just enough real stuff to make it look real, but it wasn't.

Oh! And Kingsley narrated it in his sleep.

It serves its purpose and will be consumed all over the world, but as a sports documentary it'll be forgotten.
 
Watched the lot and my wife and I really enjoyed it, but, I'll probably not watch it again. It has a handful of revealing moments, most of the Pep team talks are made incomprehensible by bad sound and Pep's all round incomprehensibility, for a documentary about a football team there's very little about football, so anyone coming to it not knowing much about last season probably won't understand just how monumental breaking all those records was.

Nothing about Sergio's taxi accident? I still don't know what Kiddo does, as for the attack on the bus, I'm none the wiser and would it not have added to the story to reveal that Liverpool went on to lose the CL final? Very little of anything was explored in depth, nothing about Pep's relationship with the media, or how the media treats us generally, the poor refereeing, the time wasting, the systematic fouling as a deliberate tactic, or our relationship with the football establishment.

On the whole a piece a corporate fluff sprinkled with fly on the wall camera angles and a bit of swearing, with a narrative bolted on for those who usually watch their sport eating popcorn and swigging Budweiser. There was just enough real stuff to make it look real, but it wasn't.

Oh! And Kingsley narrated it in his sleep.

It serves its purpose and will be consumed all over the world, but as a sports documentary it'll be forgotten.

Miserable git
Put subtitles on
 
Don't forget it was edited retrospectively and they have to have dramatic effect and they were some of the most crucial games of the season. I wouldn't read too much into it, he was warning about Chelsea at half time in our home match when they barely crossed the half way line.
And Palace.
 
Pep reminds me of Manuel out of faulty towers the way he jumps about! Lol

They say all geniuses border insanity! Pep is right on the line.
 
Love some of the player interviews: Vinny, Zinchenko, Bravo, Kevin.

Sterling, Delph and Walker being devastated areaf various errors...
 
Nope, it was 100% targeted at Sane. Couple days back BBC interviewed Kevin about the documentary and one of the questions was regarding leadership and stuff. He said that he felt responsible for helping the young guys and then specifically talked about the Wigan match where Sane was subbed early on (because of Delph's red card) and he was pretty annoyed by that. So Kev consoled him and told him that it was nothing personal, just tactical and for the betterment of his own career, he should avoid being negative about such things in front of the manager because some managers don't like to see that. Those are his direct words from the interview. And then if you watch the episode again, you can see in the background just before Pep starts speaking, Kev is consoling Sane who seems pretty pissed. So the story aligns really neatly.

My point was that he was obviously targeting Sane but he actively dispersed it to the other players.
 
Was slightly disappointed with the chairman’s words to yaya “you’re the first legend under the new ownership”.

No Zab is the first legend to leave us!
 
Carles Planchart puts it best in ep6. "If we're at our best, we're better than them".

That's why it's annoying that we lost. And the bus, and the shitty refereeing, but mainly it's because we all know we're just better than them, and losing to a worse side is fucking infuriating.
Thing is, it's all good and well being the better team but if you can't get yourself up for these games then you're fucked really. And every time we play them arseholes, they're always better at it and we seem overawed. We are obviously better prepared, as shown in the documentary, but there's something above talent and preparation that Pep needs to figure out and rectify.
 
Interesting as I took it another way,
To me Ferran was doing his job by asking if they could stop it, as he should, but he kept pushing the fact that it might be impossible so wanted the others to confirm it and let the fans get on with it, he really didn’t seem that interested in stopping it at all imo.
That's the way i read it too.
 
Interesting as I took it another way,
To me Ferran was doing his job by asking if they could stop it, as he should, but he kept pushing the fact that it might be impossible so wanted the others to confirm it and let the fans get on with it, he really didn’t seem that interested in stopping it at all imo.

Agreed. And also the players welfare and fans health and safety must have been a concern to him, while at same time he mentioned protecting the pitch for the dipper game.
 

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