Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

kevin horlocks wand said:
That was my main point expanding the ground when the current roads and infrastructure is not good enough for the current capacity is not a great idea . Any expansion needs to also include proper transport and road solutions as part of it

Particularly mid week games
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Perhaps when there's proper car parking at the North End that allows quicker flow of cars and pedestrians, people might not need to rush out as much at the end if the game, even with 6 to 8k more fans.

Plus with better choices to stay at the ground, to eat/drink in a warm and dry building, then maybe an extra line won't be required.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
You must be too young to have gone to Maine road. Having the away fans next to us used to generate the atmosphere in the kippax that’s why all singers didn’t go down to the other end of the kippax they went next to the away fans for the ding dong of songs and banter and to chuck the odd coin.
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51 years old.

Used to stand in that corner of the Kippax, and eventually started songs off. Same in the NS at MR. Sat in block R, right next to the away fans.

Liverpool, United, Spurs (their new stadium), Newcastle, and a host of other clubs don’t have their singing sections or home ends next to the away fans, and they still manage create an atmosphere. It’s not only about creating an atmosphere, but creating a large home end behind one of the goals. As it is the SS is split up via 3 levels of home fans, 3 levels of away fans, a corporate block, and restaurant, etc. That isn’t a home end, and bar the big games, that stadium layout doesn’t create an atmosphere.

No offence. This isn’t directed at you, as you have every right to questions things, but I honestly don’t see a problem with creating a ‘dedicated home end’ for Manchester City fans at the Etihad, where up to 12,000-15,000 City fans can stand and sit together, and can create a better atmosphere inside the stadium. I honestly can’t understand why anybody would question that, the need for it, and be against it.

Took some screen grabs of the survey. Will post them later on.
 
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jrb said:
51 years old.

Used to stand in that corner of the Kippax, and eventually started songs off. Same in the NS at MR. Sat in block R, right next to the away fans.

Liverpool, United, Spurs (their new stadium), Newcastle, and a host of other clubs don’t have their singing sections or home ends next to the away fans, and they still manage create an atmosphere. It’s not only about creating an atmosphere, but creating a large home end behind one of the goals. As it is the SS is split up via 3 levels of home fans, 3 levels of away fans, a corporate block, and restaurant, etc. That isn’t a home end, and bar the big games, that stadium layout doesn’t create an atmosphere.

No offence. This isn’t directed at you, as you have every right to questions things, but I honestly don’t see a problem with creating a ‘dedicated home end’ for Manchester City fans at the Etihad, where up to 12,000-15,000 City fans can stand and sit together, and can create a better atmosphere inside the stadium. I honestly can’t understand why anybody would question that, the need for it, and be against it.

Took some screen grabs of the survey. Will post them later on.
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I don’t disagree it sounds great, I object because my season tickets are in the family stand and they are great seats!!!!
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
Perhaps when there's proper car parking at the North End that allows quicker flow of cars and pedestrians, people might not need to rush out as much at the end if the game, even with 6 to 8k more fans.

Plus with better choices to stay at the ground, to eat/drink in a warm and dry building, then maybe an extra line won't be required.
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Evening Kick Offs? No use going by train then.
 
jrb said:
51 years old.

Used to stand in that corner of the Kippax, and eventually started songs off. Same in the NS at MR. Sat in block R, right next to the away fans.

Liverpool, United, Spurs (their new stadium), Newcastle, and a host of other clubs don’t have their singing sections or home ends next to the away fans, and they still manage create an atmosphere. It’s not only about creating an atmosphere, but creating a large home end behind one of the goals. As it is the SS is split up via 3 levels of home fans, 3 levels of away fans, a corporate block, and restaurant, etc. That isn’t a home end, and bar the big games, that stadium layout doesn’t create an atmosphere.

No offence. This isn’t directed at you, as you have every right to questions things, but I honestly don’t see a problem with creating a ‘dedicated home end’ for Manchester City fans at the Etihad, where up to 12,000-15,000 City fans can stand and sit together, and can create a better atmosphere inside the stadium. I honestly can’t understand why anybody would question that, the need for it, and be against it.

Took some screen grabs of the survey. Will post them later on.
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The thought of it sounds good, as mentioned before though it was a shambles when we tried it albeit once. I still think the atmosphere is where it is because of the away fans. English home atmospheres are pants all round. It's great we are looking at ways to improve it but I don't think there is a great deal that can be done.
 
asahartford1 said:
Metrolink will improve atmosphere ?
People literally running into oncoming traffic
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Exactly this. More people will feel compelled to stay until the end and get behind the team.

You obviously don't leave until the end, the amount of near misses between drivers and pedestrians going back down Grey Mare Lane is a standing joke.

Both are to blame.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I don’t disagree it sounds great, I object because my season tickets are in the family stand and they are great seats!!!!
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I’m sure they’ll be moved to other great seats. Families will be kept in the first two tiers I’m sure.

Sounds like they’re even planning upgrades for the new Family Stand, where ever that may be, with heated bar areas and toilets and bars designed more for kids as well.
 
In case you didn't get the email heres the whole survey in a downloadable PDF - the first few screens have my answers so you know I am aged between 26-64, i've been to every home game this season and last and I am very positive about the potential stadium changes....
http://stevenicklin.com/downloads/mancity-survey-2018.pdf
 
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asahartford1 said:
Metrolink will improve atmosphere ?
People literally running into oncoming traffic
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Bring Metrolink right into the ground why don't we? That'll help! Not that's never been tried before.... (waiting for Gary James to point out the railway siding that ran in front of a stand at the corner of the old Hyde Road back in the day) ha ha!
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Exactly this. More people will feel compelled to stay until the end and get behind the team.

You obviously don't leave until the end, the amount of near misses between drivers and pedestrians going back down Grey Mare Lane is a standing joke.

Both are to blame.
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On the bus back to Piccadilly, the people are walking with the traffic, in the middle of the road.I think one or two need to be clipped by a bus to wake them up.
Walking on packed roads is never recommended.
I just don't understand the desperation of people to get away from the stadium.
It is nothing new, the Kippax street car park would be full 10 minutes before the end. You could see them from the top of the steps even going back 40 years. I liken it to people trying to get off an aircraft. They are desperate to pull and push, to get off quick, for what 2 minutes difference. Just a sad bit of human nature.
 
DiscoSteve said:
Bring Metrolink right into the ground why don't we? That'll help! Not that's never been tried before.... (waiting for Gary James to point out the railway siding that ran in front of a stand at the corner of the old Hyde Road back in the day) ha ha!
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I think you are recommending an underground station, beneath the ground, with elevators, taking fans to the right level, then young ladies escorting us men to the seat and taking interval refreshment orders. -)
 
I wonder how many "oh no its 85 minutes I need leave because a) I need to get out of carpark first b) I need to be first on the tram c) I am a w*nker" fans lied on this question?

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BlueT said:
Very Much this. Our owners should be pressing MCC to build a tram line that turns on to Ashton New Road passed the south stand then to the south east of Manchester. This would double capacity on match days. How many tram lines go past the swamp?
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There is a reason gorton, openshaw and denton haven't had a line yet, and that is because of the built up nature of the area area, the fallowfield loop was the original testing ground and in hindsight should have been kept as a line running from chorlton to debdale, you could probably have then linked it to ashton moss station and have a tram running.
 
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