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Not spent much time swimming in the North Sea in your speedos I think

No but I am not a cod or a haddock.

The local inshore boats over in Redcar near me do fish those species and the Scottish fishermen fish in local waters up there too. QT was in Penzance and I was talking about the Southern fleet - there's all sorts of exotica coming along the channel now and if you swim off Bournemouth in September its like a warm bath.........thats where me and my speedo's can be seen frightening the locals.
 
My final thought for the night is life should be fun and also full of love. Brexit is neither
 
Zahawi was born in Iraq.
What never ceases to amaze me is how nationalistic people not born in Britain are. It is like they have to be more Tebbitt than Norman.
By the way this is not just us. Stalin wasn't Russian, Hitler wasn't German and Napoleon wasn't French.

Boris Johnson was born in New York !
 
Zahawi was born in Iraq.
What never ceases to amaze me is how nationalistic people not born in Britain are. It is like they have to be more Tebbitt than Norman.
By the way this is not just us. Stalin wasn't Russian, Hitler wasn't German and Napoleon wasn't French.
...Amin wasn't Scottish.
 
What happens is that we catch it and sell it to them.

If it were that simple why would the folk of Penzance be bawling their eyes out on QT over fishing? We do sell the more exotic stuff and a lot of shellfish to the EU I agree. If we crash out on no deal on 29th April next year will the 30th of Aprils catch be able to be sold in the EU as we would have no trade deal with them to take it ?
 
Are you fucking mad?

Not according to my Martian mate who lives in the attic

The simple fact is the majority(above 52%) of this country is Eurosceptic, if you’re of the opinion this should have been ignored well done you are part of the problem. The irony is the europhiles have caused brexit, not the Tories, or the brexiteers. Only the stupid don’t get it. Dictators can’t help themselves it’s a history lesson not learnt. That’s why eventually they get fucked. In this case it looks likely a stay of execution will be passed. It won’t last.
 
If it were that simple why would the folk of Penzance be bawling their eyes out on QT over fishing? We do sell the more exotic stuff and a lot of shellfish to the EU I agree. If we crash out on no deal on 29th April next year will the 30th of Aprils catch be able to be sold in the EU as we would have no trade deal with them to take it ?

You think that we wont trade with the EU even if we no deal? I don't see that happening mate.
 
Not according to my Martian mate who lives in the attic

The simple fact is the majority(above 52%) of this country is Eurosceptic, if you’re of the opinion this should have been ignored well done you are part of the problem. The irony is the europhiles have caused brexit, not the Tories, or the brexiteers. Only the stupid don’t get it. Dictators can’t help themselves it’s a history lesson not learnt. That’s why eventually they get fucked. In this case it looks likely a stay of execution will be passed. It won’t last.


Yeah but he replied to you saying brexit wasn't the tories fault.

They put a commitment to a referendum in their manifesto running scared of UKIP.
They then went into it expecting to win a remain majority and so never even had a plan for a leave win.
They have spent all the time since infighting which has resulted in Mays wank deal.

I would say the brexit shambles is all on the tories
 
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Yeah but he replied to you saying brexit wasn't the tories fault.

They put a commitment to a referendum in their manifesto running scared of UKIP.
They then went into it expecting to win a remain majoroty and so never even had a plan for a leave win.
They have spent all the time since infighting which has resulted in Mays wank deal.

I would say the brexit shambles is all on the tories

Why were they running scared of UKIP?

As the country is split on leavers, europhiles and cowards how could infighting have been avoided?

Unfortunately the current govt can’t do a labour and make up fairytales. As soon as the vote came in shit hit the fan. They shouldn’t have invoked A50 but they would have got shit for that. Until people accept circumstances mean there is no easy solution we cannot progress. There is no answer to this.
 
Why were they running scared of UKIP?

As the country is split on leavers, europhiles and cowards how could infighting have been avoided?

Unfortunately the current govt can’t do a labour and make up fairytales. As soon as the vote came in shit hit the fan. They shouldn’t have invoked A50 but they would have got shit for that. Until people accept circumstances mean there is no easy solution we cannot progress. There is no answer to this.

The country has always been split on europe, and had whinging ****s like farage have always been around, but still you said they (the tories) didn't cause brexit, but..

Did they call the referendum? Yes

Would anyone else have been stupid enough to without having a plan for what might happen? No

All on cameron and the conservaties shoulders the shitshow that has followed
 
The country has always been split on europe, and had whinging ****s like farage have always been around, but still you said they (the tories) didn't cause brexit, but..

Did they call the referendum? Yes

Would anyone else have been stupid enough to without having a plan for what might happen? No

All on cameron and the conservaties shoulders the shitshow that has followed

Answer the question or don’t bother I’m not interested in your pro Eu stance, it’s well trodden. I will ask again why was Cameron running scared of UKIP?
 
Why were they running scared of UKIP?

As the country is split on leavers, europhiles and cowards how could infighting have been avoided?

Unfortunately the current govt can’t do a labour and make up fairytales. As soon as the vote came in shit hit the fan. They shouldn’t have invoked A50 but they would have got shit for that. Until people accept circumstances mean there is no easy solution we cannot progress. There is no answer to this.

Because they were out of touch stupid bastards - they lacked the capacity and the expertise to analyse the results of the 2014 EU elections that saw them poll 3rd place to predict the outcome of the following years GE. The EU election polled some 16m votes - the following years GE nearly 32m. UKIP polled half a million votes more in the EU election than in the GE but on only half the total number of votes cast. Cameron and his Eton cabinet and advisers shat themselves and this was seized upon by what are now known as Brexiteers to include the promise of the referendum in his 2015 manifesto. From that point of wobble the die was cast and all was lost.
 
Answer the question or don’t bother I’m not interested in your pro Eu stance, it’s well trodden. I will ask again why was Cameron running scared of UKIP?

Because he was a shithouse, and believed they could actually take votes in maginals that would help labour gain seats from the tories.

Also I am happy to leave the EU with a compitent government in charge, so I have no pro europe stance, but fucked if I would want leave with this shower of shit in charge.
 
Because they were out of touch stupid bastards - they lacked the capacity and the expertise to analyse the results of the 2014 EU elections that saw them poll 3rd place to predict the outcome of the following years GE. The EU election polled some 16m votes - the following years GE nearly 32m. UKIP polled half a million votes more in the EU election than in the GE but on only half the total number of votes cast. Cameron and his Eton cabinet and advisers shat themselves and this was seized upon by what are now known as Brexiteers to include the promise of the referendum in his 2015 manifesto. From that point of wobble the die was cast and all was lost.

So in a nutshell even though more than half the country isn’t fond of the Eu, haven’t had a say in it since the 70’s, And in Eu elections UKIP gathered plenty of votes for a party consisting of a fair member of loons you and other Eu fans and status quo cowards think the continuing policy of ignoring the electorate is a good thing?

Okay fair enough. You lot and the Eu have got precisely what you deserved. This shit shower isnt the Tories fault or the brexiteers
 
So in a nutshell even though more than half the country isn’t fond of the Eu, haven’t had a say in it since the 70’s, And in Eu elections UKIP gathered plenty of votes for a party consisting of a fair member of loons you and other Eu fans and status quo cowards think the continuing policy of ignoring the electorate is a good thing?

Okay fair enough. You lot and the Eu have got precisely what you deserved. This shit shower isnt the Tories fault or the brexiteers

Its ok - they are dust at the next GE all because of this - its their construct from start to finish their fingerprints and DNA are all over it.

Here's a funny one - lets say its a rip roaring success I assume you will confirm they can claim no credit for it either?
 
Because he was a shithouse, and believed they could actually take votes in maginals that would help labour gain seats from the tories.

Also I am happy to leave the EU with a compitent government in charge, so I have no pro europe stance, but fucked if I would want leave with this shower of shit in charge.

Tell me how a competent govt would have handled it, we can all say what’s wrong that’s piss easy
 
Its ok - they are dust at the next GE all because of this - its their construct from start to finish their fingerprints and DNA are all over it.

Here's a funny one - lets say its a rip roaring success I assume you will confirm they can claim no credit for it either?

No they can’t claim credit, I would like to know what you would class as a rip roaring success
 
So in a nutshell even though more than half the country isn’t fond of the Eu,

Also its not that half the country isn't fond of the EU. Its just over half of those who voted - many didn't because they were excluded for various reasons but 17.4m isn't 50% of the population of just over 60m.
 

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