Are Labour a total shambles now as an opposition?

I don’t need to ask you why you don’t like Cooper do I? I already know she’s not in line with your ideology so you responding is a waste of both of our time.

Whether she's in tune with my politics wasn't the question, you asked....
What’s wrong with Cooper?

And the answer for Labour's membership is her politics, that's why she lost the leadership election and it's why she'd lose again if she stood.
 
The people wanted a vote and the people answered.

At least the Tories listened. Labour are as bad as the Tories these days and survive off of Northern stereotypes.


The only time those fuckers care about northerners is at election time - rest of the time they are locked in momentum meetings in London thinking about the next minority or crusade to jump on.

They care more about creating transgender toilets in all universities than they do a decent transport infrastructure across the north so people can get to and from work easily.
 
Whether she's in tune with my politics wasn't the question, you asked....


And the answer for Labour's membership is her politics, that's why she lost the leadership election and it's why she'd lose again if she stood.

I was asking that poster specifically.

She’d fair better if she stood again I’d imagine. I think Brexit will be the death of Corbyn.
 
We can put each other on ignore if that's what you want.

I don’t put anyone on ignore.

I was asking a poster specifically what he saw wrong with Cooper and you answered, when I already knew your thoughts on her.

Nothing more or less it’s a waste of time us considering on this topic as we both understand each other’s views.
 
I was asking that poster specifically.

She’d fair better if she stood again I’d imagine. I think Brexit will be the death of Corbyn.

Mrs Balls wouldn't win a leadership election for the reason she is Mrs Balls. Although I do expect the next leader to be female. That will only occur when JC steps down. In the mean time you can keep feeling threatened by a party that wants to help all rather than protect a rich few.
 
Mrs Balls wouldn't win a leadership election for the reason she is Mrs Balls. Although I do expect the next leader to be female. That will only occur when JC steps down. In the mean time you can keep feeling threatened by a party that wants to help all rather than protect a rich few.

I’m not threatened by the Lib Dems.
 
Lots of young Corbynistas are also remainers despite the fact he isn't. He can't come out as he will lose his youth vote.
Unlike arch remainer Mrs May, who is delivering something she really doesn't believe in, because she will lose the support of the blue-rinse vote.
Politicians are mainly duplicitous c***ts who would sell their grannies for a vote and have lost any abilty to speak honestly, to not be a slave to idealogy or, even worse, to change their minds about anything. It is a dismal state of affairs which shows no signs of improvement, especially now we have fulltime, professional politicians.
 
He really doesn't want a GE. No confidence in the PM? It's meaningless as she won't step down and has nowhere to backdown to. If they vote now on the Brexit bill it will fail. Then what?
 
After today I would go for a ‘yes’ as the answer to the question. The Govt is more of a shambles but I’m in a ‘pox on all their houses’ mood.
 
Corbyn is playing a blinder for those of us up here who want Indy 2 to succeed.

An absolute blinder, Messiesque.

I knew he would and just like Lionel, he’s delivering.

Being a Brexiteer himself, he is totally and utterly hogtied. And it shows.

Keep it up Agent Jezza, when it’s all done you can move up here. We won’t forget how you helped it all happen.
 
He really doesn't want a GE. No confidence in the PM? It's meaningless as she won't step down and has nowhere to backdown to. If they vote now on the Brexit bill it will fail. Then what?

My guess is that parliament would switch attention to preventing us crashing us out with no deal for the time being. Something the PM has been hoping she'd leave us with no time to do.
 
He really doesn't want a GE. No confidence in the PM? It's meaningless as she won't step down and has nowhere to backdown to. If they vote now on the Brexit bill it will fail. Then what?

He doesn't have the numbers to bring the government down.

Last Friday 117 Tory MPs voted to boot May out, with those numbers he could at least dislodge the Prime Minister in a no confidence vote, but in the space of 72 hours the honourable 117 have rediscovered their love for her.

The Brexit vote has now been postponed until January, while the government is herding Parliament in to three dead end options, May's plan, crash out, remain.

PS: Blair's intervention has not helped.
 
Corbyn is playing a blinder for those of us up here who want Indy 2 to succeed.

An absolute blinder, Messiesque.

I knew he would and just like Lionel, he’s delivering.

Being a Brexiteer himself, he is totally and utterly hogtied. And it shows.

Keep it up Agent Jezza, when it’s all done you can move up here. We won’t forget how you helped it all happen.

I'm not being sarcastic, but what does this mean?
 
I'm not being sarcastic, but what does this mean?

You will soon find out.

It’s in relation to how he is helping us reach Independence by showing he is no better than the Tories in relation to us wanting to remain.

And a pile of other stuff that is fucking us all off about his double standards regarding his heartfelt, lifelong beliefs that strangely don’t extend to us.

What’s left of the Labour vote up here, although few and deranged, are moving toward the SNP or the Greens and realize Labour are dead as a force. If he manages to get an election, the paltry half dozen seats they have up here will be lost.

So that was an homage to his attempts to help us get Indy.
 
You will soon find out.

It’s in relation to how he is helping us reach Independence by showing he is no better than the Tories in relation to us wanting to remain.

And a pile of other stuff that is fucking us all off about his double standards regarding his heartfelt, lifelong beliefs that strangely don’t extend to us.

What’s left of the Labour vote up here, although few and deranged, are moving toward the SNP or the Greens and realize Labour are dead as a force. If he manages to get an election, the paltry half dozen seats they have up here will be lost.

So that was an homage to his attempts to help us get Indy.

What's the timescale on this and importantly do you think the EU will readmit you quickly.

A few years ago I'm guessing not. But the EU are presumably well fucked off with the English and would welcome an independent Scotland with open arms.
 
What's the timescale on this and importantly do you think the EU will readmit you quickly.

A few years ago I'm guessing not. But the EU are presumably well fucked off with the English and would welcome an independent Scotland with open arms.
I'd hazard a guess that the EFTA would take an independent Scotland on like a shot, so the time lapse applying for full membership wouldn't be too bad.
 
What's the timescale on this and importantly do you think the EU will readmit you quickly.

A few years ago I'm guessing not. But the EU are presumably well fucked off with the English and would welcome an independent Scotland with open arms.

I don’t think we will have any issues when the EU know we voted 62% to remain. If I’m honest though, i’m still not totally convinced we will go for it, as there are so many people up here who love the royal family and the flag, mostly down to religious sectarianism and even if they knew we would be screwed, would still vote to stay.

So although Corbyn and his party are playing a blinder it may not be enough. There is a strong subservient group up here who lovee to tug their forelock to the Royal Family, which of course is entirely within their rights.

People are calling for Sturgeon to call one, but I would advise waiting. This shitfest hasn’t even begun. There is no need to go for it just yet. There is obviously the possibility, however remote that a people’s vote might be called. If that were to happen, a huge majority to stay would be returned and that could scupper things for us too. So, it’s a situation that is filled with danger. Go too soon and the pain might not be enough. Go too late and a new vote might convince people to stay under the boot of Westminster.

We have been totally disregarded in every sense, but, as I said, some people are totally subservient and “loyal” and my fear is there are enough of them to defeat Indy 2.

I hope I’m wrong, but sadly I don’t think so.
 

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