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Ban-jani said:
I literally did a 30 minute presentation for work on Third Way Politics less than 6 months ago, you condescending little so and so.

It’s incredibly hard to talk about something for 30 mins in front of a room full of people without knowing anything about it.

You hate the Third Way, I’ve got it. It’s not Toryism though, what Osbourne has said is a suggestion that the Tories drop their traditional policies and move further to the left to be more successful... because it’s what the public want.

How that’s a negative for those of us already in that position is a fucking mystery but you’re a sheep who only sees Corbynism as a legitimate cause.
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That must have been 30 minutes of Mongolian throat music if you think the Third Way is moving to the left. If the left means anything it means a more equitable distribution of wealth .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

The Third Way supports the pursuit of greater egalitarianism in society through action to increase the distribution of skills, capacities and productive endowments while rejecting income redistribution as the means to achieve this.[9] It emphasizes commitment to balanced budgets, providing equal opportunity which is combined with an emphasis on personal responsibility, the decentralization of government power to the lowest level possible, encouragement and promotion of public–private partnerships, improving labour supply, investment in human development, preserving of social capital and protection of the environment.[10] The Third Way has been criticized[11] by conservatives, classical liberals, and libertarians who advocate laissez-faire capitalism.[12] It has also been heavily criticized by social democrats, democratic socialists, anarchists and communists in particular as a betrayal of left-wing values

The Third Way is in decline everywhere, because at its heart is the wholesale acceptance of unrestrained capitalism. All the waffle about social capital, equal opportunity, decentralisation, human development and protection of the environment is just window dressing, as sincere as Cameron hugging a hoodie and the concept of green Toryism.

You can shove the Third Way in to the same dark moist place already occupied by compassionate conservatism, patriotic conservatism, one nation Toryism, green conservatism and all the other meaningless adjectives right wingers use to lubricate their bullshit for the consumption of people like you.

As for Corbynism being legitimate, what a peculiar word to use, of course it's legitimate. I don't particularly agree with all of it but it's legitimate, or perhaps you're one of those sinister f**kers who believes Corbyn should never be "allowed" in to No 10.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
That must have been 30 minutes of Mongolian throat music if you think the Third Way is moving to the left. If the left means anything it means a more equitable distribution of wealth .....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way

The Third Way supports the pursuit of greater egalitarianism in society through action to increase the distribution of skills, capacities and productive endowments while rejecting income redistribution as the means to achieve this.[9] It emphasizes commitment to balanced budgets, providing equal opportunity which is combined with an emphasis on personal responsibility, the decentralization of government power to the lowest level possible, encouragement and promotion of public–private partnerships, improving labour supply, investment in human development, preserving of social capital and protection of the environment.[10] The Third Way has been criticized[11] by conservatives, classical liberals, and libertarians who advocate laissez-faire capitalism.[12] It has also been heavily criticized by social democrats, democratic socialists, anarchists and communists in particular as a betrayal of left-wing values

The Third Way is in decline everywhere, because at its heart is the wholesale acceptance of unrestrained capitalism. All the waffle about social capital, equal opportunity, decentralisation, human development and protection of the environment is just window dressing, as sincere as Cameron hugging a hoodie and the concept of green Toryism.

You can shove the Third Way in to the same dark moist place already occupied by compassionate conservatism, patriotic conservatism, one nation Toryism, green conservatism and all the other meaningless adjectives right wingers use to lubricate their bullshit for the consumption of people like you.

As for Corbynism being legitimate, what a peculiar word to use, of course it's legitimate. I don't particularly agree with all of it but it's legitimate, or perhaps you're one of those sinister f**kers who believes Corbyn should never be "allowed" in to No 10.
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Are you broken?

It’s further to the left than the Tories smart arse, especially when it comes to social policy.

I’ve read that Wikipedia page enough times now.

Yeah save it, I don’t care much for your opinion on Centrism and Conservatism being the same thing, you’re wrong but will never ever see it. Because everyone to the right of Corbyn is Tory scum to you.

I said the “only” legitimate cause.
 
Ban-jani said:
Are you broken?

It’s further to the left than the Tories smart arse, especially when it comes to social policy.

I’ve read that Wikipedia page enough times now.

Yeah save it, I don’t care much for your opinion on Centrism and Conservatism being the same thing, you’re wrong but will never ever see it. Because everyone to the right of Corbyn is Tory scum to you.

I said the “only” legitimate cause.
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The Third Way is not to the left of anything, it is not moderate, not centrist, it is a false construct for closet Tories who like to think they have a social conscience.

Like you.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
You missed ‘I’ off the start of your last sentence, mate.
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Third way fuckers get my goat more than the Tories, they gut the Labour movement by pretending that power imbalances in society are just the residue of an outmoded class conflict, which has no place in the modern world, a little tinkering here and there and it'll be all right on the night.

In the meantime workers can't take a piss on company time and care workers are fined if they're ill.

I'll take a loud, proud, right wing bigot over a Third Way Wormtongue any day, at least they don't fuck around pretending to be something they're not.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Most of them do, though - Robinson being a case in point.
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Robinson, Farage, Ian Duncan Smith, Johnson, they're not loud and proud right wing bogots! They're duplicitous right wing bigots, hiding behind meaningless bullshit phrases like fighting for freedom, individual liberty, sovereignty, freedom of speech and patriotism.

I despise them, but they're a cancer of the right, they don't climb over my fence with a toothy grin, pretending to be the acceptable face of the left.
 
The perfect fumble said:
The Third Way is not to the left of anything, it is not moderate, not centrist, it is a false construct for closet Tories who like to think they have a social conscience.

Like you.
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It’s not moderate you’re right, it is in principle more left leaning than Toryism in its social principles.

Haha I’m not Third Way, I’m a Social Democrat, it’s just I respect Blair and what he achieved more than Corbyn.

I think you’re a fucking lunatic sheep, if we’re giving out opinions on one another.
 
Ban-jani said:
It’s not moderate you’re right, it is in principle more left leaning than Toryism in its social principles.

Haha I’m not Third Way, I’m a Social Democrat, it’s just I respect Blair and what he achieved more than Corbyn.

I think you’re a fucking lunatic sheep, if we’re giving out opinions on one another.
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Ah! Traditional values in a modern setting!

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"The third way stands for a modernised social democracy, passionate in its commitment to social justice and the goals of the centre-left, but flexible innovative and forward-looking in the means to achieve them."

The master of verbal diarrhoea.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
Ah! Traditional values in a modern setting!

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"The third way stands for a modernised social democracy, passionate in its commitment to social justice and the goals of the centre-left, but flexible innovative and forward-looking in the means to achieve them."

The master of verbal diarrhoea.
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What’s the need of the picture?
 
The perfect fumble said:
Ah! Traditional values in a modern setting!

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"The third way stands for a modernised social democracy, passionate in its commitment to social justice and the goals of the centre-left, but flexible innovative and forward-looking in the means to achieve them."

The master of verbal diarrhoea.
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Sorry fumble, but I really don't get what you stand for.
You deffinately are not neo-liberal your distain for blair shows that.
You re definately not right wing - every post you write proves that.
You are definetely not (and I am gonna list these).
Socailist
Communist
Anarcho- communist
Anarcho-syndicalist
Anachist
Nee -socialist
Co-operative
Neo- syndicalsit radiacalist co-operative
Maoist
Confounalist
Ho-ist
Starliniist
Leninist
Trotskyite
Egalitarian humaist
Green
Welsh

So I can only assume you are someone who reads a lot and understands little.

SWP or reactionary communist maybe and if it's corbynist, well then then that's a silly childish media title that no sane adult would admit to.

Your comments are embarrasing us lefties and hampering our credible arguement so please stop with the bliar shite.

as a note on tge list I am anarcho-communist but also realist so make do with socialist
 
As the Tories have demonstrated how utterly spineless they are over the brexit debacle, I will be voting for a different party for the first time in more than 38 years..
Ps.. Labour are worse than the Tories so they can fuck of as well... Where is screaming lord such when you need him ... The standard of the average politician these days is lamentable, it’s harder to pin a flag to any mast than I have ever known it...!
 
urban genie said:
So I can only assume you are someone who reads a lot and understands nothing.
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"Just after the election, an old colleague of mine said: 'Come on Tony, now we've won again can't we drop all this New Labour and do what we believe in?'. "I said: 'It's worse than you think. I really do believe in it'."

Tony Blair
2001 Labour Party Conference
 
The perfect fumble said:
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"Just after the election, an old colleague of mine said: 'Come on Tony, now we've won again can't we drop all this New Labour and do what we believe in?'. "I said: 'It's worse than you think. I really do believe in it'."

Tony Blair
2001 Labour Party Conference
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Merry christmas

And thank you for answereing my question

By not answering my question, quite blair like really.
 
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The perfect fumble said:
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"Just after the election, an old colleague of mine said: 'Come on Tony, now we've won again can't we drop all this New Labour and do what we believe in?'. "I said: 'It's worse than you think. I really do believe in it'."

Tony Blair
2001 Labour Party Conference
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Whenever I see that mug I always wonder why I've never purchased a baseball bat!
 
urban genie said:
Sorry fumble, but I really don't get what you stand for.
You deffinately are not neo-liberal your distain for blair shows that.
You re definately not right wing - every post you write proves that.
You are definetely not (and I am gonna list these).
Socailist
Communist
Anarcho- communist
Anarcho-syndicalist
Anachist
Nee -socialist
Co-operative
Neo- syndicalsit radiacalist co-operative
Maoist
Confounalist
Ho-ist
Starliniist
Leninist
Trotskyite
Egalitarian humaist
Green
Welsh

So I can only assume you are someone who reads a lot and understands little.

SWP or reactionary communist maybe and if it's corbynist, well then then that's a silly childish media title that no sane adult would admit to.

Your comments are embarrasing us lefties and hampering our credible arguement so please stop with the bliar shite.

as a note on tge list I am anarcho-communist but also realist so make do with socialist
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Old fashioned class warrior mate, turned Social Democrat. Too old to fight in the great struggle between the lumpenproletariat and the money grubbing owners, but I cheer on the great unwashed nonetheless, with a cup of Bovril in one hand and a Balti pie in the other.

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