Chris Grayling - is there no beginning to this mans talents?

bluethrunthru said:
Another year of triumph's for Chris - and this fucker is talked about as a potential PM !! Jesus is the bar set that low these days?

https://news.sky.com/story/train-punctuality-falls-to-13-year-low-11592584
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Come on, let's be fair. Late trains is not his fault. It is the fault of the train companies. The fact that he overseas them is totally immaterial.

A bit like the problems in the NHS are the fault of the trusts and not the Health Secretary. That's why these trusts were set up in the first place.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Come on, let's be fair. Late trains is not his fault. It is the fault of the train companies. The fact that he overseas them is totally immaterial.

A bit like the problems in the NHS are the fault of the trusts and not the Health Secretary. That's why these trusts were set up in the first place.
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Ha ha ha - yeah - in the same way that Sajid Javid has declared an emergency today over the number of illegals coming in via Kent. That way when a trickle becomes a flood and the complete lack of sufficient patrol vessels becomes evident it will be nothing to do with him..........fucking easy this government shit isn't it? The hard part is attaining it - the execution is a piece of piss
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Come on, let's be fair. Late trains is not his fault. It is the fault of the train companies. The fact that he overseas them is totally immaterial.

A bit like the problems in the NHS are the fault of the trusts and not the Health Secretary. That's why these trusts were set up in the first place.
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They're going to be very reliant on deflecting downwards after Brexit so it's good to see they've made a start.
 
blueinsa said:
Whats your excuse?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ire...s-dart-changes-have-led-to-problems-1.3625988
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It's obviously the fault of immigrants and the EU mate, there's no other possible cause for it. Bloody Polish, Lithuanians, Latvians and other assorted Eastern Europeans, overcrowding the train in the second wealthiest part of the country where they can't afford to live. Bloody EU, shouting at us to improve our commuter lines and decentralize the country and not taking responsibility when we don't listen to them.

God forbid we blame Fine Gael and Fianna Fail, they obviously would have sorted all this out if the EU made them stop buying up land and housing in areas with shortages and lining their pockets over it without fixing the real issues.
 
aguero93:20 said:
It's obviously the fault of immigrants and the EU mate, there's no other possible cause for it.
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Only you trying to blame or insinuate we are blaming them for the shit state of our trains?

Why would you do that?
 
blueinsa said:
Only you trying to blame or insinuate we are blaming them for the shit state of our trains?

Why would you do that?
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Dunno mate, just seemed to be fashionable to blame everything on the EU, thought I'd join in.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Dunno mate, just seemed to be fashionable to blame everything on the EU, thought I'd join in.
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Nope........but nice try.

Corbyn will sort it all out free of the EU and its state aid rules anyway and his supporters on here, pro EU now will hoist him high above their shoulders and declare him a demi God whilst chanting all sorts of anti EU slogans.

trust me, ive seen the future.
 
blueinsa said:
Nope........but nice try.

Corbyn will sort it all out free of the EU and its state aid rules anyway and his supporters on here, pro EU now will hoist him high above their shoulders and declare him a demi God whilst chanting all sorts of anti EU slogans.

trust me, ive seen the future.
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Fucking hell, he must be Merlin reborn. WTO state aid rules are nearly as restrictive.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Fucking hell, he must be Merlin reborn. WTO state aid rules are nearly as restrictive.
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WTO doesnt set rules per se and rather manages things and will only ever step in if requested to do so by a member who objects.

I've seen fuck all evidence of them ever stepping in on anything so far, Boeing and Airbus aside and the EU didnt like that answer one bit did they so im going to guess Corbyn will much rather takes his chances with them than Brussels.
 
blueinsa said:
WTO doesnt set rules per se and rather manages things and will only ever step in if requested to do so by a member who objects.

I've seen fuck all evidence of them ever stepping in on anything so far, Boeing and Airbus aside and the EU didnt like that answer one bit did they so im going to guess Corbyn will much rather takes his chances with them than Brussels.
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Sorry for not quoting the mail this time.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/27/four-reasons-jeremy-corbyn-wrong-eu-state-aid
 
blueinsa said:
That will be a pro remain labour party very much at odds with its very anti EU party leadership yes?

yet its only the Tories fucked up over brexit?
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No, it's both parties, it's divisive. The facts remain though, Brexit isn't a golden route to freedom of state aid, the EU is actually quite liberal with it and you're now advocating state aid after opposing it earlier for agriculture and calling it a protectionist racket.
 
aguero93:20 said:
No, it's both parties, it's divisive. The facts remain though, Brexit isn't a golden route to freedom of state aid, the EU is actually quite liberal with it and you're now advocating state aid after opposing it earlier for agriculture and calling it a protectionist racket.
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I wasn’t advocating it. I was taking the piss and exposing the hypocrisy a few will suddenly show if he ever does come into power.

I have no time for the idiot.
 
blueinsa said:
WTO doesnt set rules per se and rather manages things and will only ever step in if requested to do so by a member who objects.

I've seen fuck all evidence of them ever stepping in on anything so far, Boeing and Airbus aside and the EU didnt like that answer one bit did they so im going to guess Corbyn will much rather takes his chances with them than Brussels.
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So we go from a situation where the 27 other EU members are able to "interfere" with us by way of our EU membership to a situation where the rest of the world can ??? We enter a world where theoretically we want to do something but any one of a hundred and sixty odd WTO members can block it?? And thats better??
 
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