Great post but do you agree with me that getting double points because you can afford £50 is wrong ? 10 aways gets you as many points as another Blue who does every league match away but is on Silver.
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Great post but do you agree with me that getting double points because you can afford £50 is wrong ? 10 aways gets you as many points as another Blue who does every league match away but is on Silver.
ninjamonkey
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If 100% of the tickets went to points holders there wouldn't be an issue. The issue is when a large percentage of the tickets are siphoned off for supporters clubs, corporate tickets, club sponsors, players friends and family, mcfc staff etc etc.
I've not missed a game all season so far, got every ticket on my own points, couldn't get a ticket today. Ive no problem with that, other people have more points, just how it is. However I know probably not far off 2 dozen at huddersfield today that have next to no points, or at least less than me that have tickets because they have people that get them tickets through supporters club, corporate tickets and knowing staff that get tickets. I have no ill will towards any of those that were offered a ticket, its not their fault and theres no reason for them to turn them down which is similar to when you see rows of tourists at the big away games, they get abuse at times but they aren't the problem themselves, the problem is tickets being available through other means.
On a different note, I think it's about time the premier league increases the away allocation. I understand it will bring with it problems with segregation at some grounds and policing issues but away ends are almost always full at most clubs yet the home ends always have plenty of spares available. The fa cup games are always good when the away side bring a bigger than usual away allocation, it doesn't need to be that big but an extra few percentage would benefit everyone at all clubs.
I've not missed a game all season so far, got every ticket on my own points, couldn't get a ticket today. Ive no problem with that, other people have more points, just how it is. However I know probably not far off 2 dozen at huddersfield today that have next to no points, or at least less than me that have tickets because they have people that get them tickets through supporters club, corporate tickets and knowing staff that get tickets. I have no ill will towards any of those that were offered a ticket, its not their fault and theres no reason for them to turn them down which is similar to when you see rows of tourists at the big away games, they get abuse at times but they aren't the problem themselves, the problem is tickets being available through other means.
On a different note, I think it's about time the premier league increases the away allocation. I understand it will bring with it problems with segregation at some grounds and policing issues but away ends are almost always full at most clubs yet the home ends always have plenty of spares available. The fa cup games are always good when the away side bring a bigger than usual away allocation, it doesn't need to be that big but an extra few percentage would benefit everyone at all clubs.
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Take it you've not read the latest minutes from the points of blue meeting then. 180-200 tickets guaranteed for Thomas Cook passengers from now on.Tommy Cooks doesn't provide tickets, There Euro trips Clearly state you can't board the plane if you haven't got a ticket.
I thought that was still a suggestion ? are you saying it is happening ? Totally wrong if so and I apologise for my post.Take it you've not read the latest minutes from the points of blue meeting then. 180-200 tickets guaranteed for Thomas Cook passengers from now on.
I also wonder what will happen if 100 passengers qualify in there own right, will the 80+ tickets be returned to the club for other fans or salted away ?
Exactly this.If 100% of the tickets went to points holders there wouldn't be an issue. The issue is when a large percentage of the tickets are siphoned off for supporters clubs, corporate tickets, club sponsors, players friends and family, mcfc staff etc etc.
I've not missed a game all season so far, got every ticket on my own points, couldn't get a ticket today. Ive no problem with that, other people have more points, just how it is. However I know probably not far off 2 dozen at huddersfield today that have next to no points, or at least less than me that have tickets because they have people that get them tickets through supporters club, corporate tickets and knowing staff that get tickets. I have no ill will towards any of those that were offered a ticket, its not their fault and theres no reason for them to turn them down which is similar to when you see rows of tourists at the big away games, they get abuse at times but they aren't the problem themselves, the problem is tickets being available through other means.
On a different note, I think it's about time the premier league increases the away allocation. I understand it will bring with it problems with segregation at some grounds and policing issues but away ends are almost always full at most clubs yet the home ends always have plenty of spares available. The fa cup games are always good when the away side bring a bigger than usual away allocation, it doesn't need to be that big but an extra few percentage would benefit everyone at all clubs.
What pisses me off even more is when a post gets put on the ticket forum on here especially for a early kick off at a away game, “got a couple of no shows so two tickets going spare”.
Prestwich_Blue
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If 100 qualify on their own points and book on the flight then there's no problem is there. There'll be 100 extra tickets for those applying via the normal channels.I thought that was still a suggestion ? are you saying it is happening ? Totally wrong if so and I apologise for my post.
I also wonder what will happen if 100 passengers qualify in there own right, will the 80+ tickets be returned to the club for other fans or salted away ?
What I didn't realise until recently that anyone who has an officially sourced ticket - via a branch, club staff or seasonal hospitality - can book on the TC flight. All of these will know they have a ticket before thry go on sale to SC holders.
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Or sit in the huddersfield end with us.no points required :+)I don't buy this 'issue' with the system. Spurs, Lyon, Leicester in the cup, Cardiff, Saints, Newcastle, shaktar have all gone down to GS or to extremely low points.
Problem is some fans want to do the Everton Liverpool United, Burnley ETC. Well, if you've not got the points to do it like me, go to the others. I've only got 9k points, went Hoff, Shaktar, Spurs, Leicester Saints and Newcastle. Make the most of what you can get and stop moaning about not being able to go to Huddersfield.
If 100 qualify on their own points and book on the flight then there's no problem is there. There'll be 100 extra tickets for those applying via the normal channels.
What I didn't realise until recently that anyone who has an officially sourced ticket - via a branch, club staff or seasonal hospitality - can book on the TC flight. All of these will know they have a ticket before thry go on sale to SC holders.
Where do these extra 100 tickets come from.....? Sounds like politician's spin. There's still up to 100 less than would have previously been available?!
Where do these extra 100 tickets come from.....? Sounds like politician's spin. There's still up to 100 less than would have previously been available?!
There not 100 extra tickets, as I now understand it City will give TC 180/200 tickets to guarantee they fill the plane. If you only have 2,000 points you make sure you get on TC's list early. The point I was making and I think Bill might have misunderstood, if 100 fans qualify and get tickets in their own right, will the 100 of the 180 allocated go back to the club for other City fans or will they be spirited away to other less deserving.
There not 100 extra tickets, as I now understand it City will give TC 180/200 tickets to guarantee they fill the plane. If you only have 2,000 points you make sure you get on TC's list early. The point I was making and I think Bill might have misunderstood, if 100 fans qualify and get tickets in their own right, will the 100 of the 180 allocated go back to the club for other City fans or will they be spirited away to other less deserving.
A very good point indeed. I'm not even sure that TC didn't have tickets themselves previously. I'd booked travel independently for the Sevilla game a few years ago, couldn't get a match ticket but TC were still advertising seats. I contacted them the day before the match and they said they had match tickets but wouldn't sell me one unless I booked the flight....
didsburyblu
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Oh good another post about the unfair loyalty points system, corporates, supporters clubs, blah blah blah.
I've just got back from Huddersfield having seen the same faces I see most games and the same faces I will see at Newcastle however no doubt will be empty seats a plenty cos those who plead it's 'so unfair will now moan it's a 'school night' so can't make it
Sorry for the forseitous post but I'm done to death with this subject end result being you will never find a solution to suit everyone because everyone has their own self interests at heart and as for points whores if you really believe those with 20000 plus points who've been to all the shit aways over the last decade have suddenly now decided when playing the best football we've seen in a decade to sack it all off to sit at home with a cuppa watching soccer Saturday whilst gleefully rubbing their hands at the 40 free points they've earnt then I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too
I've just got back from Huddersfield having seen the same faces I see most games and the same faces I will see at Newcastle however no doubt will be empty seats a plenty cos those who plead it's 'so unfair will now moan it's a 'school night' so can't make it
Sorry for the forseitous post but I'm done to death with this subject end result being you will never find a solution to suit everyone because everyone has their own self interests at heart and as for points whores if you really believe those with 20000 plus points who've been to all the shit aways over the last decade have suddenly now decided when playing the best football we've seen in a decade to sack it all off to sit at home with a cuppa watching soccer Saturday whilst gleefully rubbing their hands at the 40 free points they've earnt then I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too
Prestwich_Blue
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The first 180/200 who book on the flight get tickets, as long as they're ST holders on the CL scheme. That's the new rule.There not 100 extra tickets, as I now understand it City will give TC 180/200 tickets to guarantee they fill the plane. If you only have 2,000 points you make sure you get on TC's list early. The point I was making and I think Bill might have misunderstood, if 100 fans qualify and get tickets in their own right, will the 100 of the 180 allocated go back to the club for other City fans or will they be spirited away to other less deserving.
So if there's 100 people who would have got tickets anyway there's potentially 80/100 tickets going to people who might not have qualified. But there might be people booking on the flight who know they will be guaranteed a ticket via a branch or club staff member. So TC don't need those tickets and can give them back to the club.
We will no doubt be monitoring the situation and if we can find a better solution we'll look at that.
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facetious (one of the very few words to have all 5 vowels in alphabetical order. Abstemious being another). Surely worth 40 loyalty points for knowing this?Oh good another post about the unfair loyalty points system, corporates, supporters clubs, blah blah blah.
I've just got back from Huddersfield having seen the same faces I see most games and the same faces I will see at Newcastle however no doubt will be empty seats a plenty cos those who plead it's 'so unfair will now moan it's a 'school night' so can't make it
Sorry for the forseitous post but I'm done to death with this subject end result being you will never find a solution to suit everyone because everyone has their own self interests at heart and as for points whores if you really believe those with 20000 plus points who've been to all the shit aways over the last decade have suddenly now decided when playing the best football we've seen in a decade to sack it all off to sit at home with a cuppa watching soccer Saturday whilst gleefully rubbing their hands at the 40 free points they've earnt then I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too
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Is this the case for the Schalke flight?The first 180/200 who book on the flight get tickets, as long as they're ST holders on the CL scheme. That's the new rule.
So if there's 100 people who would have got tickets anyway there's potentially 80/100 tickets going to people who might not have qualified. But there might be people booking on the flight who know they will be guaranteed a ticket via a branch or club staff member. So TC don't need those tickets and can give them back to the club.
We will no doubt be monitoring the situation and if we can find a better solution we'll look at that.
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Any chance we can have another thread on away tickets. I don’t think there are enough!!!
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Oh good another post about the unfair loyalty points system, corporates, supporters clubs, blah blah blah.
I've just got back from Huddersfield having seen the same faces I see most games and the same faces I will see at Newcastle however no doubt will be empty seats a plenty cos those who plead it's 'so unfair will now moan it's a 'school night' so can't make it
Sorry for the forseitous post but I'm done to death with this subject end result being you will never find a solution to suit everyone because everyone has their own self interests at heart and as for points whores if you really believe those with 20000 plus points who've been to all the shit aways over the last decade have suddenly now decided when playing the best football we've seen in a decade to sack it all off to sit at home with a cuppa watching soccer Saturday whilst gleefully rubbing their hands at the 40 free points they've earnt then I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too
I agree with the majority of your post and it doesn’t bother me in the slightest as I don’t do them anymore but there are people who regularly sell their tickets. My lad went to 15 aways last season without the required points and bought his tickets off one so they do exist. He wasn’t the only one in his group either. I expect it’s a minority though.
Prestwich_Blue
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No. Think it starts next season.Is this the case for the Schalke flight?
xgorton
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Away tickets ?Any chance we can have another thread on away tickets. I don’t think there are enough!!!
Oh good another post about the unfair loyalty points system, corporates, supporters clubs, blah blah blah.
I've just got back from Huddersfield having seen the same faces I see most games and the same faces I will see at Newcastle however no doubt will be empty seats a plenty cos those who plead it's 'so unfair will now moan it's a 'school night' so can't make it
Sorry for the forseitous post but I'm done to death with this subject end result being you will never find a solution to suit everyone because everyone has their own self interests at heart and as for points whores if you really believe those with 20000 plus points who've been to all the shit aways over the last decade have suddenly now decided when playing the best football we've seen in a decade to sack it all off to sit at home with a cuppa watching soccer Saturday whilst gleefully rubbing their hands at the 40 free points they've earnt then I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too
Yup, more posts from those who go to all away games, see the same faces every week, and wonder what the problem is...
Problem clearly is that, given availability, we'd take twice as many away as we do now, so there has to be rationing, The way the club ration the tickets is to syphon off lots for corporates who really don't deserve them, and ration the rest to the same folk every week. Season ticket holders who have gone for the last 15 years have always been at the back of the queue for aways, and very rarely get a chance to buy them. No easy way to solve this, other than more tickets being available, but I do get annoyed by folk who are able to go every week denying there's a problem, because there really is...
Great post but do you agree with me that getting double points because you can afford £50 is wrong ? 10 aways gets you as many points as another Blue who does every league match away but is on Silver.
I agree platinum is wrong. Not because of the cost and affordability, but that loyalty shouldn't have to be bought, which is currently happening.
Like I say, there are plenty of games people can go to. Unfortunately in my view the people who moan are the people who want to go to the more glamorous, or local games.
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