Schalke post match thread

[Ohrodneyrodney]

So why was the decision overturned if it wasnt clear cut

Go figure.

 

[cleavers]

So that would surely be a corner then if its wasn't City.

Fixed.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Mr Tumble’s gone downhill.

 

[somethingelse]

a handball that was going in the top corner ?,well no,Ederson wouldn't of had to move to save it

 

[Neville Kneville]

I think Otamendi has enough time to react and the ball is heading into the corner. He makes a fist and diverts the ball. If that was reversed I'd absolutely want a penalty.

My issue is how VAR was used tonight. How can the ref not have a monitor but the Schalke bench have?

Well it should mean no v.a.r.

But your pount re you 'think' Otamendi had enough time, is the very reason it shiuldn't be a v.a.r. decision.

You can easily be wrong, therefore nothing to overturn.

 

[hihosilva]

Go figure.

The var officials had to be positive that the ref had made an obvious error.
That wasnt the case

 

[cleavers]

Anyway, fuck it, we still won.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

The handball is clear for me. The shots going in and Otamendi diverts the ball. The second penalty is a needless pull by Fernandinho.

We're fortunate that Schalke aren't very good.

Of course it's a great result, but it wasn't a great performance.

It was on target not going in, Ederson saves that. How is trying to get your hand/arm out of the line the ball is travelling in deliberate handball?

 

[Neville Kneville]

You need to watch the shit that Walton comes out with to justify the 2nd pen, its embarrassing

I saw it.

Just proves how useless & self governing the ****s are.

They can do.what they want, especially now.

 

[City_Sean]

Well it should mean no v.a.r.

But your pount re you 'think' Otamendi had enough time, is the very reason it shiuldn't be a v.a.r. decision.

You can easily be wrong, therefore nothing to overturn.

If Aguero hits that shot on Sunday and Luiz does the same as Otamendi, will you ask for a penalty?

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Otamendi tried to pull his arm out of the way but with the speed of the ball didntt have enough time.

BT saying he had 0.7 seconds to get his arm out of the way.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

The var officials had to be positive that the ref had made an obvious error.
That wasnt the case

Come back to me when we get a game where all those decisions go on our favour. VAR or no VAR.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Pitch was as bad to play on as Newport’s was.
They were in the ref’s face every two minutes in the first half and diving everywhere.

We took our first goal well.

Their first goal: There’s no way that was intentional handball, his intention was clear - to try and get his arm out of the way so not to handball it, far too many refs don’t know the laws of the game.

Their second goal: They moved the ball for the free kick around 5metres further forward from where the foul was given away and the ref just ran off and let them take it from there, then there’s no way on Earth Fernandinho’s minimal contact made that big bloke fall over the way he did - at most a hand around the hips would make him stand upright and even pull him to a standstill, not a jump to the deck.

Otamendi has a mistake in him in every half of football he plays and today’s rash run-in (where he actually barely touched the lad but just invited the foul) cost him and us a man but let’s be honest; that was not a bookable offence!

de Bruyne and Silva were frankly dreadful!

Sané... truly world class strike!

And what a ball and finish from Ederson and Sterling, who struggled tonight but kept going and got his worthy winner from the hard work he put in.

Good result, average performance but still miles better than them.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

BT saying he had 0.7 seconds to get his arm out of the way.

Lazy sod :)

 

[Chi-town blues]

I don’t give a fuck about those two pks but it’s the cheating refs that does my head .

 

[Marvin]

The handball is clear for me. The shots going in and Otamendi diverts the ball. The second penalty is a needless pull by Fernandinho.

We're fortunate that Schalke aren't very good.

Of course it's a great result, but it wasn't a great performance.

Pep agrees with you (interview on BT Sport, however I am not sure he actually saw the offences. I think he's just assuming VAR must have called it right).

I didn't think either were pens.

No.1 - Ota) He was pulling his arm out of the way. It's interpretation but VAR should only be used if it's a clear error and it is not clear.

No.2 - Fern) It's a foul, but those fouls are commonplace. Refs normally ignore them.

No. 3 - Ota Red). It's a foul but there was no force. It's not a yellow.

I think we started giving the ball away too often after a good start so I agree it was not a great performance, however the closing goals were nothing short of sensational. Not only the free-kick but the build-up to the free-kick. And then the pass by Ederson. I think commentators might think it was a hopeful punt but that was a wonderful pass.

Ederson is changing the concept of goalkeeping. You can not speak too highly of that pass.

 

[hihosilva]

BT saying he had 0.7 seconds to get his arm out of the way.

Precisely 0.7 seconds & he manages to move it partially out of the way

 

[eyalluvitt]

Compare and contrast tonight's VAR with the handball and non penalty in the FA Cup at Newport!

Just the whole game is different, Newport were the first team in years that haven't dived ,cheated and feigned injury constantly . The Sunbed stealers tonight were at it the whole game aided by an incompetent Spanish Pep hater in black. It took all my restraint to not put my size 10s through the TV screen.Hoffenheim was the same.

 

[Ken92]

Where exactly w

Where exactly was our luck?

I ment a bit of luck with Sterlings goal,defender should have got to that ball before Sterling, lets be honest.His bad play was a good luck for us

 

[steviemc]

The pens, or the refs decision doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. They were given two goals - whether right or wrong, nobody watching the match from an unbiased point of view could have said those decisions reflected the overall dominance or superiority we had in the game. We were even reduced to 10 men and still managed to turn it around. Enjoy what you're watching with this team - it's something special!