Michael Jackson

markprendy said:
This is from the Mail but god forbids anybody shares it on social media as it will be fake news!

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I know this is small fry compared to the kiddy fiddling but he definitely lied about the skin bleaching too (skin bleaching products were found in his house after his death) , along with a whole host of other things he said about his life that are provably untrue. I know MJ defenders criticise the credibility of his supposed victims but MJ was no more credible and undoubtedly a compulsive liar.
 
markprendy said:
No I didn't. He said because it had a Facebook link it was the "fakest of fake news that you’ll ever see." He didn't answer which part of the document looks dodgy and you never answered my questions.
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He said Mail and Facebook made it look like fake news combined.

Not bothered to be fair.
 
Fame Monster said:
I know this is small fry compared to the kiddy fiddling but he definitely lied about the skin bleaching too (skin bleaching products were found in his house after his death) , along with a whole host of other things he said about his life that are provably untrue. I know MJ defenders criticise the credibility of his supposed victims but MJ was no more credible and undoubtedly a compulsive liar.
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"I'm a black American and I'm proud of it".... Lol. He was clearly ashamed Of being born black hence his skin bleaching and various cosmetic surgery operations to make his nose become like a button mushroom. He was dubbed wacko jacko for good reason. His face was a dead give away as he was squirming like a toad. His face and body language was just a facade to his deviance that will never come to light. Like Saville(amongst others, Jacko went to his grave with more questions asked than answers given unfortunately. A sad manchild in his own deluded world of Neverland.
 
SWP's back said:
Literally the worst defence ever.

Did you say the same about Savile?
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I said exactly the same, don't wait until a person can't defend himself to attack him. They'e got their TV show and a few quid from "speaking out", congratulations.

If it's ruined your life then why wait 20/30/40 years to bring it up.
 
dannyboy29 said:
I said exactly the same, don't wait until a person can't defend himself to attack him. They'e got their TV show and a few quid from "speaking out", congratulations.

If it's ruined your life then why wait 20/30/40 years to bring it up.
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This is ridiculous. A lot of abuse victims are ashamed mate. Some won’t tell anyone for as long as they live so whether they come out 20/30/40 years later isn’t relevant.
 
johnmc said:
This is ridiculous. A lot of abuse victims are ashamed mate. Some won’t tell anyone for as long as they live so whether they come out 20/30/40 years later isn’t relevant.
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If they are that ashamed why tell the whole world about it? surely if you were ashamed you would speak to people you trust or a professional who would keep it confidential.
 
Banned Tosspot said:
What were they?
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You see nothing wrong in a parade of young boys going in and out of a hotel room, where maids and staff weren't allowed in, for weeks at a time???

Why was he not involved with any women romantically or even men for that matter? Its been explained that none stayed in his room with him.
 
dannyboy29 said:
If they are that ashamed why tell the whole world about it? surely if you were ashamed you would speak to people you trust or a professional who would keep it confidential.
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If it was an someone talking about being abused at school by teachers, in a foster home or at a church would you have the same opinion or is it just because you are looking at these people thinking they are after money?
 
johnmc said:
If it was an someone talking about being abused at school by teachers, in a foster home or at a church would you have the same opinion or is it just because you are looking at these people thinking they are after money?
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I would have the same opinion if the circumstances were the same yes. However, I doubt they would get the same interest from the media and public so they would probably confide in those they could trust.

Im yet to hear an argument that shows me what good bringing all this up can do;

You want to get things off your chest and talking helps - Speak to a professional or a loved one.
He needs to face justice - The guy is dead.
I need to stop him doing this to somebody else - please see above.
 
dannyboy29 said:
I would have the same opinion if the circumstances were the same yes. However, I doubt they would get the same interest from the media and public so they would probably confide in those they could trust.

Im yet to hear an argument that shows me what good bringing all this up can do;

You want to get things off your chest and talking helps - Speak to a professional or a loved one.
He needs to face justice - The guy is dead.
I need to stop him doing this to somebody else - please see above.
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Ok mate. What’s an acceptable time period for abuse/rape victims to come forward then in your opinion? A week? Month?
 
markprendy said:
You see nothing wrong in a parade of young boys going in and out of a hotel room, where maids and staff weren't allowed in, for weeks at a time???

Why was he not involved with any women romantically or even men for that matter? Its been explained that none stayed in his room with him.
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Do you really believe parents kept throwing their kids into a hotel room with him?

He was married twice and dated Brooke Shields, Tatiana Thumbtzen and Tatum O'Neal.
 
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