The Conservative Party

[Chippy_boy]

Ah, wise words from chairman Len, with a nice little like from his commie friend Fumble. How quaint.

 

[The perfect fumble]

This is from the Telegraph...

Generation Xers - as well as Millennials - are turning away from the Conservative Party

Over the last 2 years, the number of Conservative supporters under 50 has plummeted. The average age at which voters moved from Labour to Tory was 34 at the beginning of the 2017 General Election campaign. Immediately after that disastrous performance, it was 47 - and has since risen to 51.

Note, this isn't members it's supporters, in October 2017 the average age of a Conservative Party member was 72!

 

[Neville Kneville]

This is from the Telegraph...

Generation Xers - as well as Millennials - are turning away from the Conservative Party

Over the last 2 years, the number of Conservative supporters under 50 has plummeted. The average age at which voters moved from Labour to Tory was 34 at the beginning of the 2017 General Election campaign. Immediately after that disastrous performance, it was 47 - and has since risen to 51.

Note, this isn't members it's supporters, in October 2017 the average age of a Conservative Party member was 72!

In any other era, Labour would have won by a landslide but 'something' prevented it.

 

[The perfect fumble]

In any other era, Labour would have won by a landslide but 'something' prevented it.

In 2017? You're having a laugh.

 

[Neville Kneville]

In 2017? You're having a laugh.

Everyone I know who binned Labour would have voted for them.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Everyone I know who binned Labour would have voted for them.

The game starts in a minute, so I've no time to post just how well Labour did from where it was, but you're no fool, look it up, you'll be amazed.

 

[Neville Kneville]

The game starts in a minute, so I've no time to post just how well Labour did from where it was, but you're no fool, look it up, you'll be amazed.

Me neither.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Me neither.

Jeremy Corbyn increased Labour's vote share more than any of the party's leaders since 1945, a bigger swing than Tony Blair, the biggest swing since Clement Attlee.

That result exceeded all expectations. Having begun the campaign 20 points behind in the polls, Labour won an astonishing 40% of the votes.

Corbyn won 30 more seats than Ed Miliband in 2015. He deprived Theresa May of her majority. He won seats in southern England such as Canterbury and Plymouth that for years have been Labour no-go areas.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Jeremy Corbyn increased Labour's vote share more than any of the party's leaders since 1945, a bigger swing than Tony Blair, the biggest swing since Clement Attlee.

That result exceeded all expectations. Having begun the campaign 20 points behind in the polls, Labour won an astonishing 40% of the votes.

Corbyn won 30 more seats than Ed Miliband in 2015. He deprived Theresa May of her majority. He won seats in southern England such as Canterbury and Plymouth that for years have been Labour no-go areas.

and that was before this Mayday "strong and stable" fuck up

 

[The perfect fumble]

and that was before this Mayday "strong and stable" fuck up

There's a reason the Tories would rather dip their shrivelled dicks in sulphuric acid than call an election.

They'd lose it.

 

[Chris in London]

Jeremy Corbyn... won seats in southern England such as Canterbury and Plymouth that for years have been Labour no-go areas.

And he will lose them as sure as eggs are eggs due to his stance on Brexit

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

There's a reason the Tories would rather dip their shrivelled dicks in sulphuric acid than call an election.

They'd lose it.

To who?

 

[bluethrunthru]

To who?

I'll be honest with you - the Euro elections will be an interesting guide but I do think the next GE all bets are off - we are heading for such a split in votes if we don't leave that no seat is "safe" and so many other awkward parties and independents come into play a shaky coalition worthy of Italy is the best outcome I can see

 

[The perfect fumble]

And he will lose them as sure as eggs are eggs due to his stance on Brexit

Depends on what the stance is.

20 points behind in 2017 and they reached 40%.

Labour are ahead now.

If you want to know the likely outcome of the next election, look at the fear in the Tory ranks.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I'll be honest with you - the Euro elections will be an interesting guide but I do think the next GE all bets are off - we are heading for such a split in votes if we don't leave that no seat is "safe" and so many other awkward parties and independents come into play a shaky coalition worthy of Italy is the best outcome I can see

It might have come across as a flippant comment but I agree that there's no end of parties they could lose to. Either way, both parties will be held hostage by either Unionists or SNP separatists.

 

[bluethrunthru]

It might have come across as a flippant comment but I agree that there's no end of parties they could lose to. Either way, both parties will be held hostage by either Unionists or SNP separatists.

or the Monster Raving Brexit Party if they can get one or two MP's elected.

 

[KS55]

No problem there mate.
The reductions in corporation tax and taxes for the wealthy might have had something to do with the increase in national debt.
As indeed did the austerity programme of 2010-2012 which sent the economy into recession thereby reducing growth and tax revenues.
Alistair Darling ( remember him) had a more sensible economic programme in 2010 of modest cuts in public spending whilst spending to invest in capital projects,infrastructure etc.

Sorry, you are rewriting economic history. No point in arguing with you, though.
I might add that I didnt agree with the tory econ policy, eg austerity falling on the least able, but there is not the slightest evidence for what you say.
Darlings plan was fine, but would have increased debt. Personally, I would have been fine with that, but it still doesnt make sense for you to criticise increase in debt and austerity at the same time.

 

[Ban-jani]

Depends on what the stance is.

20 points behind in 2017 and they reached 40%.

Labour are ahead now.

If you want to know the likely outcome of the next election, look at the fear in the Tory ranks.

That’s a bit like City bragging about putting 10-0 past Burton over two legs.

The Tories are absolutely shot to shit, he should be leading and the fact he’s only leading narrowly, tells you everything.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Jeremy Corbyn increased Labour's vote share more than any of the party's leaders since 1945, a bigger swing than Tony Blair, the biggest swing since Clement Attlee.

That result exceeded all expectations. Having begun the campaign 20 points behind in the polls, Labour won an astonishing 40% of the votes.

Corbyn won 30 more seats than Ed Miliband in 2015. He deprived Theresa May of her majority. He won seats in southern England such as Canterbury and Plymouth that for years have been Labour no-go areas.

And the opposition had Boris Johnson as a potential leader, David (Brexit) Cameron as a now former leader & a gaggle of clueless, misshapen, weirdos including Theresa May. They should have been destroyed & should be wiped out of existence next time, but still we can't even be sure if Boris wouldn't win an election.

Jeremy is Labour's equivalent of Mahrez' penalty at Anfield, repeating n a timeloop.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Depends on what the stance is.

20 points behind in 2017 and they reached 40%.

Labour are ahead now.

If you want to know the likely outcome of the next election, look at the fear in the Tory ranks.

I think that's just fear of Mogg's SS tbh.