UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Well played mate.
Shame on you the blues who were telling us all that this was an opportunity to “educate other fans who swallow the media lies”
It was fucking obvious he wasn’t a Newport/Leeds fan and he was only here for mischief. The truth is no fans of other clubs want to understand from a City perspective, they’ve already made their minds up and that won’t be changing anytime soon.
As if he’d just popped up with a burning desire to get the City angle!
I for one was happy to ‘educate’ him ;-)
 
You have that impression because you are a City fan and are confronted with all the negative stuffs being told about your club.

Press is constantly critical of PSG.
First of all, international press is always critical of PSG. For being Qatar royalty club and for being a french club ( the farmer league, i see you bleacher report !).
Look at that Guardian article after PSG lost to Liverpool ! Isn't this formidable ? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/19/psg-liverpool-thomas-tuchel-football
But the worst part is France press is immensely critical of PSG too. PSG is in open conflict with the monopolistic daily sport newspaper L'Equipe. L'Equipe is used to write fake news about PSG : they said there was a turmoil in PSG staff because of sandwiches choice, that Verratti and Matuidi went to party the night before a huge loss in CL (PSG put in a legal complaint and L'Equipe had to write an apology in their next edition). When they don't write outright fake news, they'll search any dirt possible and make a story, because people like to hate PSG in France. When Football Leaks was published by Media Part (you have to pay for each article), L'Equipe partnered with them and offered free article viewing for one week. When there was a suspicion about Red Star Belgrade fixing their own game against PSG, they immediately put in as their first page insinuating PSG was behind (they said Nasser had a metting with the Red Star guy which was proven wrong, allegedly the journo got the tip from UEFA...).
This is what l'Equipe used as their first page (left) before PSG lost 6 - 1 at Barcelona (picturing Barça players as PUMPED = gonflés à bloc).
How can the only one daily sportsnews paper headline to cheer for the opponent of the french club when they have just won 4 - 0 the first game ?
In the right side, they are picturing : All Monegasques ! (All for Monaco) before Monaco win against City in the return leg.
Here is another collection of bad press for PSG from l'equipe in their first page :
This is a long review in french of L'equipe relationship with PSG : http://canal-supporters.com/2017/03...t-aux-ultras-retour-sur-une-saison-dattaques/

And we have our local foe in the name of Aulas and international foe in the name of Tebas :
http://global.espn.com/football/soc...las-voices-ffp-concern-after-neymars-psg-move
https://www.the42.ie/jean-michel-aulas-3587351-Sep2017/
https://www.90min.com/posts/5464374...elaifi-after-retweeting-x-rated-kangaroo-post
https://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/Ch...ampions-league-over-ffp-breach-tebas-20181116

PSG was always a popular club in France but also hated. However, since the Qatari takeover, PSG while becoming more popular is the most hated club in France and prolly worldwide. City has Pep and the PL as redeeming factor.
And this is evidenced by the recent comments from Qatar owners that are displeased with all the negative comments about PSG, even in France.
As i told you, if you think City has it hard, PSG has it harder.

About Nasser Al Khelaifi, i have to remind you his election in the UEFA executive committee is the result of Gazidis leaving for Milan AC (can't have two seats with people from the same league and Agnelli from Juve has already one). He has been voted, not by UEFA but by fellow clubs presidents. UEFA has merely ratified the election.
About his corruption in WC bid,first of all, it has nothing to do with PSG whatsoever and even UEFA since WC is a FIFA matter. I will also add that i'm sure he and the Qatari rulers used corruption to get their bid accepted. I'm not naive, it is how it works. There was already report of corruption for more "legitimate nation bidders" like Germany, South Africa, Brazil, Russia when they won. Qatar is just following the trend with maybe more suitcases.
The funny thing is you are already judging him as guilty for alleged wrongdoing. I guess you are as quick to believe alleged City crime then and is rooting for your club rightful punishment by UEFA then.
Still, that has nothing to do with PSG FFP situation. Or are you suggesting that Qatar bribed FFP to be under constant threat, get the contract devaluated, have to sell all their bench players, being on the wrong side of refereeing (even if it doesn't explain all their failures) ?


Pisses a lot a City fans being compared to PSG,you do realise MCFC won a European trophy before PSG were formed? a fact not known by 99% of English club fans either. We averaged 47000 four seasons before our takeover. Anyway carry on mate I’ve gone off on a tangent !
 
Incompetent or Targeted?

FFP for the 2nd time
Battered in the Street song
FIFA Investigation into Academy players
Premier League following the UEFA investigation

Now the observer is left with two thoughts:

1) City's management are serial cheats and incompetent to boot, or
2) for some reason the football club is being targeted.

When you consider City's footballing record, and our every day experience of the managers, then the conclusion is obvious.

I wonder what the assorted journalists who gathered at press conferences really think. Surely the story that should now be being penned is not City's misdemeanours but the organisation and entrapment of Manchester City by key parties in the game? I think someone will do this soon. I am sure City could give them some pointers.
 
You have that impression because you are a City fan and are confronted with all the negative stuffs being told about your club.

Press is constantly critical of PSG.
First of all, international press is always critical of PSG. For being Qatar royalty club and for being a french club ( the farmer league, i see you bleacher report !).
Look at that Guardian article after PSG lost to Liverpool ! Isn't this formidable ? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/19/psg-liverpool-thomas-tuchel-football
But the worst part is France press is immensely critical of PSG too. PSG is in open conflict with the monopolistic daily sport newspaper L'Equipe. L'Equipe is used to write fake news about PSG : they said there was a turmoil in PSG staff because of sandwiches choice, that Verratti and Matuidi went to party the night before a huge loss in CL (PSG put in a legal complaint and L'Equipe had to write an apology in their next edition). When they don't write outright fake news, they'll search any dirt possible and make a story, because people like to hate PSG in France. When Football Leaks was published by Media Part (you have to pay for each article), L'Equipe partnered with them and offered free article viewing for one week. When there was a suspicion about Red Star Belgrade fixing their own game against PSG, they immediately put in as their first page insinuating PSG was behind (they said Nasser had a metting with the Red Star guy which was proven wrong, allegedly the journo got the tip from UEFA...).
This is what l'Equipe used as their first page (left) before PSG lost 6 - 1 at Barcelona (picturing Barça players as PUMPED = gonflés à bloc).
How can the only one daily sportsnews paper headline to cheer for the opponent of the french club when they have just won 4 - 0 the first game ?
In the right side, they are picturing : All Monegasques ! (All for Monaco) before Monaco win against City in the return leg.
Here is another collection of bad press for PSG from l'equipe in their first page :
This is a long review in french of L'equipe relationship with PSG : http://canal-supporters.com/2017/03...t-aux-ultras-retour-sur-une-saison-dattaques/

And we have our local foe in the name of Aulas and international foe in the name of Tebas :

http://global.espn.com/football/soc...las-voices-ffp-concern-after-neymars-psg-move
https://www.the42.ie/jean-michel-aulas-3587351-Sep2017/
https://www.90min.com/posts/5464374...elaifi-after-retweeting-x-rated-kangaroo-post
https://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/Ch...ampions-league-over-ffp-breach-tebas-20181116

PSG was always a popular club in France but also hated. However, since the Qatari takeover, PSG while becoming more popular is the most hated club in France and prolly worldwide. City has Pep and the PL as redeeming factor.
And this is evidenced by the recent comments from Qatar owners that are displeased with all the negative comments about PSG, even in France.
As i told you, if you think City has it hard, PSG has it harder.

About Nasser Al Khelaifi, i have to remind you his election in the UEFA executive committee is the result of Gazidis leaving for Milan AC (can't have two seats with people from the same league and Agnelli from Juve has already one). He has been voted, not by UEFA but by fellow clubs presidents. UEFA has merely ratified the election.
About his corruption in WC bid,first of all, it has nothing to do with PSG whatsoever and even UEFA since WC is a FIFA matter. I will also add that i'm sure he and the Qatari rulers used corruption to get their bid accepted. I'm not naive, it is how it works. There was already report of corruption for more "legitimate nation bidders" like Germany, South Africa, Brazil, Russia when they won. Qatar is just following the trend with maybe more suitcases.
The funny thing is you are already judging him as guilty for alleged wrongdoing. I guess you are as quick to believe alleged City crime then and is rooting for your club rightful punishment by UEFA then.
Still, that has nothing to do with PSG FFP situation. Or are you suggesting that Qatar bribed FFP to be under constant threat, get the contract devaluated, have to sell all their bench players, being on the wrong side of refereeing (even if it doesn't explain all their failures) ?


Wow, what a post :-)
 
Pisses a lot a City fans being compared to PSG,you do realise MCFC won a European trophy before PSG were formed? a fact not known by 99% of English club fans either. We averaged 47000 four seasons before our takeover. Anyway carry on mate I’ve gone off on a tangent !
PSG and City trophies are similar though before their respective take over. I don't really see the hostility.
PSG was and is one of the best followed club in France. It is well known PSG fans are/were among the most vocal and passionate in France, even before the takeover aswell.
Can't do 47000 average since our stadium attendance was lower than that.

PSG and City are compared because of their owner and their wealth.

If you want to see PSG as a nothing club before the takeover, here is the 1998 UEFA ranking : https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method1/trank1998.html

If you want to see PSG with no fanbase, here are some videos before and takeover :


 
This cnut has a real hard on for us lately ..



It’s funny how they say Newcastle deserve the champions league for everything they’ve been through. Somehow they forgot City dropped to league 1 20 years ago, now we’re champions. Fucking hypocrites. That fat geordie wanker would be loving it if Sheikh Mansour taken over Newcastle.
 
You have that impression because you are a City fan and are confronted with all the negative stuffs being told about your club.

Press is constantly critical of PSG.
First of all, international press is always critical of PSG. For being Qatar royalty club and for being a french club ( the farmer league, i see you bleacher report !).
Look at that Guardian article after PSG lost to Liverpool ! Isn't this formidable ? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/sep/19/psg-liverpool-thomas-tuchel-football
But the worst part is France press is immensely critical of PSG too. PSG is in open conflict with the monopolistic daily sport newspaper L'Equipe. L'Equipe is used to write fake news about PSG : they said there was a turmoil in PSG staff because of sandwiches choice, that Verratti and Matuidi went to party the night before a huge loss in CL (PSG put in a legal complaint and L'Equipe had to write an apology in their next edition). When they don't write outright fake news, they'll search any dirt possible and make a story, because people like to hate PSG in France. When Football Leaks was published by Media Part (you have to pay for each article), L'Equipe partnered with them and offered free article viewing for one week. When there was a suspicion about Red Star Belgrade fixing their own game against PSG, they immediately put in as their first page insinuating PSG was behind (they said Nasser had a metting with the Red Star guy which was proven wrong, allegedly the journo got the tip from UEFA...).
This is what l'Equipe used as their first page (left) before PSG lost 6 - 1 at Barcelona (picturing Barça players as PUMPED = gonflés à bloc).
How can the only one daily sportsnews paper headline to cheer for the opponent of the french club when they have just won 4 - 0 the first game ?
In the right side, they are picturing : All Monegasques ! (All for Monaco) before Monaco win against City in the return leg.
Here is another collection of bad press for PSG from l'equipe in their first page :
This is a long review in french of L'equipe relationship with PSG : http://canal-supporters.com/2017/03...t-aux-ultras-retour-sur-une-saison-dattaques/

And we have our local foe in the name of Aulas and international foe in the name of Tebas :

http://global.espn.com/football/soc...las-voices-ffp-concern-after-neymars-psg-move
https://www.the42.ie/jean-michel-aulas-3587351-Sep2017/
https://www.90min.com/posts/5464374...elaifi-after-retweeting-x-rated-kangaroo-post
https://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/Ch...ampions-league-over-ffp-breach-tebas-20181116

PSG was always a popular club in France but also hated. However, since the Qatari takeover, PSG while becoming more popular is the most hated club in France and prolly worldwide. City has Pep and the PL as redeeming factor.
And this is evidenced by the recent comments from Qatar owners that are displeased with all the negative comments about PSG, even in France.
As i told you, if you think City has it hard, PSG has it harder.

About Nasser Al Khelaifi, i have to remind you his election in the UEFA executive committee is the result of Gazidis leaving for Milan AC (can't have two seats with people from the same league and Agnelli from Juve has already one). He has been voted, not by UEFA but by fellow clubs presidents. UEFA has merely ratified the election.
About his corruption in WC bid,first of all, it has nothing to do with PSG whatsoever and even UEFA since WC is a FIFA matter. I will also add that i'm sure he and the Qatari rulers used corruption to get their bid accepted. I'm not naive, it is how it works. There was already report of corruption for more "legitimate nation bidders" like Germany, South Africa, Brazil, Russia when they won. Qatar is just following the trend with maybe more suitcases.
The funny thing is you are already judging him as guilty for alleged wrongdoing. I guess you are as quick to believe alleged City crime then and is rooting for your club rightful punishment by UEFA then.
Still, that has nothing to do with PSG FFP situation. Or are you suggesting that Qatar bribed FFP to be under constant threat, get the contract devaluated, have to sell all their bench players, being on the wrong side of refereeing (even if it doesn't explain all their failures) ?

I found it difficult to believe that PSG faces the same degree of domestic hostility that City do. City literally have zero advocates outside the Etihad other than our own supporters. Domestic French football and media often defend them. I thought that when I was following the Mbapppe transfer. There are other big clubs in France but none really bigger than PSG. City have several powerful rivals and have an outrightly hostile media / football industry.

Perhaps it's no bad thing. City will never get complacent
 
Pisses a lot a City fans being compared to PSG,you do realise MCFC won a European trophy before PSG were formed? a fact not known by 99% of English club fans either. We averaged 47000 four seasons before our takeover. Anyway carry on mate I’ve gone off on a tangent !
It’s actually blues who are falling into the trap of clubbing the two clubs together. It’s what the media does as we are both owned by “Arabs”. @Parisian was responding to blues on here who were saying “nothing has happened to PSG” or words to that effect.
 
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