Away tickets

Fame Monster said:
I think you'd have to be very close to 15,000 points to do a dozen away games last season and even then, it'd be a dozen in all comps. But the point is, this season, they'll be able to go to more which is a positive imo and that's what you asked for. More diversity at away games/younger fans etc should be applauded.

And no-one's slagging off the 25K plus fans. Every time someone opines that the loyalty points system is favoured towards fans of a certain age, it's always taken as a personal slight against them. Fair play to you if you go week-in, week-out. But my point is that the system shouldn't allow the same group of fans first refusal for all games because it's an almost impossible elite to enter, especially if you're born in the 21st century.
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I'd be interested to know how many away games someone on 12K points could have attended last season. Does anybody know?

The new system can't be to your liking, because people born in the 21st century will never catch up now they won't receiving points for away games.

So a system that had one major flaw, (how do young fans catch up) has been 'fixed' by setting the current pecking order in stone. The solution was to have a rollover system which kept those at the front still at the head of the queue and gave hope to those trying to catch up. The only people benefiting from this new system are those already on high points. The 'chasers' are fucked. FWIW, I'm OK, but it still stinks.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
I'd be interested to know how many away games someone on 12K points could have attended last season. Does anybody know?

The new system can't be to your liking, because people born in the 21st century will never catch up now they won't receiving points for away games.

So a system that had one major flaw, (how do young fans catch up) has been 'fixed' by setting the current pecking order in stone. The solution was to have a rollover system which kept those at the front still at the head of the queue and gave hope to those trying to catch up. The only people benefiting from this new system are those already on high points. The 'chasers' are fucked. FWIW, I'm OK, but it still stinks.
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The new system isn't to my liking, no. But there are positives to it and the fact that the clubs are trying to reform the existing system and water down platinum is a step in the right direction.

I'd prefer a rolling points system or even better for me, a ballot for all season-ticket holders.
 
Fame Monster said:
The idea that people who only buy tickets to maintain their standing in the loyalty points queue won't bother anymore. Like @GortonBlue62 said, 'after all you've been to the King Power 10 times now and there's no downside to missing the odd one', meaning people who've only been to the KP once or maybe not at all, get the opportunity to go and it's a big day out for them and not something they do as part of a routine or just to keep ahead in the loyalty points race. It might lead to a better atmosphere as well if it means more younger fans go, fuelled by the adrenaline of going to a rare game.

No way did half of our away games go to general sale last season btw.
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Of the 61 games last year, 33 were away (including tips to Wembley).

If you take 10K as an average ticket point level, it would be interesting to see how many of those 10Kers did all that were available to them.
 
Fame Monster said:
The idea that people who only buy tickets to maintain their standing in the loyalty points queue won't bother anymore. Like @GortonBlue62 said, 'after all you've been to the King Power 10 times now and there's no downside to missing the odd one', meaning people who've only been to the KP once or maybe not at all, get the opportunity to go and it's a big day out for them and not something they do as part of a routine or just to keep ahead in the loyalty points race. It might lead to a better atmosphere as well if it means more younger fans go, fuelled by the adrenaline of going to a rare game.

No way did half of our away games go to general sale last season btw.
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I reckon 8 PL away games went to general sale last season, happy to be proven wrong:
Cardiff
Spurs
West Ham
Watford
Southampton
Newcastle
Everton
Palace

Add to that Swansea away in the FA Cup, Leicester away in the LC, not sure in the CL but sure Schalke went way down on points?
 
liamctid said:
I reckon 8 PL away games went to general sale last season, happy to be proven wrong:
Cardiff
Spurs
West Ham
Watford
Southampton
Newcastle
Everton
Palace

Add to that Swansea away in the FA Cup, Leicester away in the LC, not sure in the CL but sure Schalke went way down on points?
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All 3 group games went to general sale I think .
 
liamctid said:
I reckon 8 PL away games went to general sale last season, happy to be proven wrong:
Cardiff
Spurs
West Ham
Watford
Southampton
Newcastle
Everton
Palace

Add to that Swansea away in the FA Cup, Leicester away in the LC, not sure in the CL but sure Schalke went way down on points?
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Schalke sold out on about 17k but all group games went to general sale
 
jrb said:
Sorry for being be a Vegetable.

This isn't a windup or a clarkie.

Are the club thinking of or doing away with away points?

Thanks.
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That was the rumor moths ago but there was no mention of them scrapping away points when renewing your season card but they still sold platinum with the bonus of double points.

Now the community shield has no allocated points so a lot think away points are being scrapped all this after people paying for platinum
 
Fame Monster said:
No way did half of our away games go to general sale last season btw.
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I've searched an old thread and found the list compiled by @squirtyflower

Chelsea (CS), Cardiff, Hoffenheim, Spurs, Shakhtar, Lyon, Leicester (Cup), Southampton, Newcastle, Everton, the League Cup Final (!), Swansea, the FA Cup semi final (!) Palace and the FA Cup Final.
Didn’t not sell out or sold out at general sale.

Arsenal, Wolves, Liverpool, Chelsea, West Ham, Watford, Leicester (league) and Schalke, and Fulham all sold out at 17k or less (a lot less for some).

By my reckoning we played 31 games away from home/neutral. You could have gone to 15 out of the 31 with no points. So I suppose you're right, its not quite half.
 
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GortonBlue62 said:
I'd be interested to know how many away games someone on 12K points could have attended last season. Does anybody know?

The new system can't be to your liking, because people born in the 21st century will never catch up now they won't receiving points for away games.

So a system that had one major flaw, (how do young fans catch up) has been 'fixed' by setting the current pecking order in stone. The solution was to have a rollover system which kept those at the front still at the head of the queue and gave hope to those trying to catch up. The only people benefiting from this new system are those already on high points. The 'chasers' are fucked. FWIW, I'm OK, but it still stinks.
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6 league games
3 Euro aways
2 cup finals
1 league cup away game
1 fa cup away game
1 cup semi final
1 charity shield

And a partridge in a pear tree


Raise it to 16000 points at the start of the season though and it’s
12 league games
4 Euro away games, possibly 5
2 cup finals
1 league cup game
1 fa cup game
1 fa cup semi final
1 charity shield
 
cptaidan88 said:
I've searched an old thread and found the list compiled by @squirtyflower

Chelsea (CS), Cardiff, Hoffenheim, Spurs, Shakhtar, Lyon, Leicester (Cup), Southampton, Newcastle, Everton, the League Cup Final (!), Swansea, the FA Cup semi final (!) and Palace.
Didn’t not sell out or sold out at general sale.

Arsenal, Wolves, Liverpool, Chelsea, West Ham, Watford, Leicester (league) and Schalke, and Fulham all sold out at 17k or less (a lot less for some).

By my reckoning we played 31 games away from home/neutral. You could have gone to 14 out of the 31 with no points. So I suppose you're right, its not quite half.
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If only I’d read this 12 minutes ago
 
Fame Monster said:
The new system isn't to my liking, no. But there are positives to it and the fact that the clubs are trying to reform the existing system and water down platinum is a step in the r
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This is a step to abolish the points system.
Heaven help us with what they will come up with next season.
Probably hand over distribution of all away tickets to Ticketmaster. Sell out in under 2 mins only to find them all for resale immediately on Ticket Tout Sites.
 
squirtyflower said:
6 league games
3 Euro aways
2 cup finals
1 league cup away game
1 fa cup away game
1 cup semi final
1 charity shield

And a partridge in a pear tree


Raise it to 16000 points at the start of the season though and it’s
12 league games
4 Euro away games, possibly 5
2 cup finals
1 league cup game
1 fa cup game
1 fa cup semi final
1 charity shield
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Awesome. You're a bigger geek than I am. Seriously though, it just goes to show how many games the people in the 5K to 15K group could have attended on relatively low points.

In that mid points group I think you have two distinct groups; the mainly younger ones going to every game they can in a genuine attempt to catch up (see @Mike Brock 's earlier post) and people of my age and above, who couldn't be arsed going to all the games they could have gone to over the last 10 years, but now feel aggrieved that they can't get tickets to the swamp.
 
Where does it say that the away ticket points are being abolished and an under 25s ballot available?!

Personally, I don't go to many aways as can't afford it - but I cannot see where it says either of the above.
 
cptaidan88 said:
I've searched an old thread and found the list compiled by @squirtyflower

Chelsea (CS), Cardiff, Hoffenheim, Spurs, Shakhtar, Lyon, Leicester (Cup), Southampton, Newcastle, Everton, the League Cup Final (!), Swansea, the FA Cup semi final (!) Palace and the FA Cup Final.
Didn’t not sell out or sold out at general sale.

Arsenal, Wolves, Liverpool, Chelsea, West Ham, Watford, Leicester (league) and Schalke, and Fulham all sold out at 17k or less (a lot less for some).

By my reckoning we played 31 games away from home/neutral. You could have gone to 15 out of the 31 with no points. So I suppose you're right, its not quite half.
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Assuming this is true, I have to say I'm surprised it's as many as 6 league games (or 15 in all comps) but even still, that's a side point.

How long do you think it would take someone born today to get a ticket for Old Trafford on the loyalty points system even if they went to every single away game they could (before the abolition of loyalty points for the aways)? What about someone born in 20 years time when the people at the top are on about 100,000K points? Or have they got to wait for the people at the top and the generation after them to die before they can go? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that the system favours people of a certain generation and will eventually leave us with the oldest away supporters in the league (although we're probably already there). It simply isn't fair and even though the recent change has problems of its own, the fact that the club are beginning to realise its inherent unfairness means its a step in the right direction.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
Awesome. You're a bigger geek than I am. Seriously though, it just goes to show how many games the people in the 5K to 15K group could have attended on relatively low points.

In that mid points group I think you have two distinct groups; the mainly younger ones going to every game they can in a genuine attempt to catch up (see @Mike Brock 's earlier post) and people of my age and above, who couldn't be arsed going to all the games they could have gone to over the last 10 years, but now feel aggrieved that they can't get tickets to the swamp.
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None of the above.
 
BlueSkyBlue said:
Where does it say that the away ticket points are being abolished and an under 25s ballot available?!

Personally, I don't go to many aways as can't afford it - but I cannot see where it says either of the above.
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@Cheshire Blue73 's post from earlier in the thread is what we're basing it on...

Cheshire Blue73 said:
Hi We had a Ticketing working group meeting with the club yesterday & they announced this was going ahead. There is a communication going out about this & a couple of other agreed changes but we said they should have announced this prior to renewal (typical City tbh). They did agree that if anyone wants their £50 refunded they’ll do that although of course it also applies to seasoncard renewal & Cup schemes/home cup games and these account for more points than away games. Personally I’d love to see the back of Platinum altogether as I think it’s one of the daftest & most divisive things we’ve ever done. That’s the unanimous view of the rest of the City Matters committee as well so there’s no dissent among the group on that.

That is from our rep
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..seems like we will be told officially when the club has banked our Platinum money.
 
Has the club ever told any working fan group or the reps the breakdown in away ticket allocation? Supporters clubs, Corporates, Sponsors, employees, individuals, etc.

Will the removal of loyalty points allow the club to direct more away tickets to certain groups? Corporate, Sponsors.
 
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