Neither do I.
In my situation if one of us drew a ticket in the ballot and the other didn’t, neither would be going.
If someone did that in United’s ballot they put you bottom of the list.
In that case you do go alone, at times.I thought that but then again, I suppose it happens in a lot of situations now with the existing scheme. If I've got 20K points and my mate has got 10K, we can't always go together. I guess there are ways of mitigating it (possibly allowing people to apply for 2 tickets?).
What a life!I've had to do that a few times, southampton and everton last season, i'm on 24k but i go all over this country and europe, if i can't go ( usually away watching the england cricket team ) then i don't apply
Has the club ever told any working fan group or the reps the breakdown in away ticket allocation? Supporters clubs, Corporates, Sponsors, employees, individuals, etc.
Will the removal of loyalty points allow the club to direct more away tickets to certain groups? Corporate, Sponsors.
No point getting upset about something that hasn't happened and we don't know if it ever will.Ballot comes in and that’s me done fucking awful system that.
When you find out you get a ticket transport will be expensive so then you decide oh well I can’t afford that. So you get penalized and fucked to the bottom or banned from applying
True it might not come in for a couple of years by that time Pep will be gone and it may just be me and a few hundred in the ballotNo point getting upset about something that hasn't happened and we don't know if it ever will.
Spot on.In 2006 the demand from all these "young fans" when we were taking 2k to local aways wasn't there. Sure they will be older now, but the demand still wouldn't be there if it wasn't for winning things. If we hadn't had heavy external investment over the past decade then a lot of the fans demanding to go away know and basically claiming some sort of discrimination, would be fans of different clubs.
There was a time when points only mattered for one game a season, and the hard core who went then still go now, a people assume those paying £40 for Birmingham City away midweek and getting 10 loyalty points some how are "points whores" now.
Nothing has been shared on consulted with fans regarding a new system, and we are still guessing what it is. The assumption that awarding no points will even things out when more and more tickets are allocated not to points is ridiculous. People complain it may be 20 years before older fans stop going and they get a chance, however the older fans have put it longer than that attending most games, and there are only about 2% of fans prepared to do that. The rest want a ballot.
It's strange you say that,because there always seem to be plenty of kids at the derby,an field etcBut the fact that they have to join a supporters club or have to get tickets second hand because they can't get one through the loyalty points system means that the loyalty points system itself isn't fit for purpose. That's the point.
As for your bottom paragraph, there'll be plenty of people born in the 21st century who are prepared to sacrifice relationships just as much as someone born in the 1950s. Will they have as much chance of getting a ticket to the big games as them? No. They won't get a sniff. Not this season. Not next. Not the season and probably decade after that. The system only favours people like that if they were born of a certain era.
But the fact that they have to join a supporters club or have to get tickets second hand because they can't get one through the loyalty points system means that the loyalty points system itself isn't fit for purpose. That's the point.
As for your bottom paragraph, there'll be plenty of people born in the 21st century who are prepared to sacrifice relationships just as much as someone born in the 1950s. Will they have as much chance of getting a ticket to the big games as them? No. They won't get a sniff. Not this season. Not next. Not the season and probably decade after that. The system only favours people like that if they were born of a certain era.
The problem is by doing that you are feeding the touts. By the way I don't blame you for doing it, it's wrong that people are allowed to 'claim' the tickets and then sell them on.I'm a younger fan at 21 and have been to Old Trafford 3 times I think by getting tickets from here and other ticket sites on facebook. It's possible to find tickets if you really go looking.
It works for me if I'm honest, my cousin for example almost has a deal with someone where if the guy with high points cant go, he gets offered tickets first. But as you say probably isn't the long term solution.The problem is by doing that you are feeding the touts. By the way I don't blame you for doing it, it's wrong that people are allowed to 'claim' the tickets and then sell them on.
The problem is by doing that you are feeding the touts. By the way I don't blame you for doing it, it's wrong that people are allowed to 'claim' the tickets and then sell them on.