What is Manchester to you?

gaz76 said:
ok so I will reply, I was born In crumpsall hospital, and lived in Manchester via dublin/the isle of man/and pretty much every place there is in the UK, and in my opinion manchester is a dump, and it's fulll of people that are idiots, manchester people are not nice
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So you're calling most people who visit this site not nice and idiots, your not exactly intelligent are you? Close the door behind you on the way out. You sound a right prick.
 
manctheknife said:
The term manc was first coined by scousers in the 80s...as derogatory and derived from manky...it covered anyone from wigan to Wythenshawe regardless of accent. I don't use the term, mind you I'm ancoats born so should probably consider myself an Anc....
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Ancuts you mean ; )
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Oldham, brah

Shithole
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Seems like it’s all around, apart from the leafy south havens, and even some of those are starting to look both tired and overcrowded. I get up in the hills (Saddleworth and Dovestones) and it starts to feel much more human and liveable. Then I look at real estate and I realize I could never move back. Permission impossible zoning, green belt gone crazy, except for the low income housing that ruins it, of course, and prices that water the eyes.

The hit and run visits I make now are about the only way, unless I could find a nice stone cottage that someone was willing to give away on a windswept hill on the Moors or the Lake District!
 
Somewhere I live. Good music, great football team. People are generally ok.
 
All a shit hole, subject to contract with houses selling me & Mrs Moon are off to the lovely countryside of Lincolnshire in the next month or so. I've had enough of 'this cesspit of a city'. Ready to check out.

Looking forward to clean air, no scroats, no sirens, no constant sound of rumbling traffic, going on holiday and feeling happy the house is safe & no traffic lights in the village we're off to.

Only downside is that after this season I'll be turfing my seasoncard due to time/travel after just short of 50 years.
 
gaz76 said:
ok so I was trollied, manchester is great, and Chrisja is an internet genius, not sure why he thinks a website has a door? but hey ho
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Don't apologise because a few on here are having a go at you, last Sunday in a quiet little part of Greater Manchester, 11.45am 2 scrotes ran out of a Co-op having nicked 3 bottles of Jack Daniels, laughing and taunting the lone shop worker, hell it was a Sunday morning. This is aside from the smack heads, the spiced up, the drunks, the violent thugs who rob, the dealers. It is my home but it is a shithole.
 
Bit of a shit hole, work and the place where the best football team ever play.

I prefer living in the leafy suburbs and going in when I need to.
 
levets said:
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Now living in Moorside, Oldham.
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I lived there as a kid.. Parents ran the con club on Ripponden (sp) Road.. went to the school just behind.. a weird shaped building... hexagons I think

Born on Kenyon Lane in Middleton.. does that make me Mancunian??
 
What is Manchester to me?

Well firstly, I find the concept of counties to be archaic. Lines on a map that don’t exist in reality. I couldn’t give a monkeys about Lancashire or Cheshire. Being born after 1974 I don’t consider myself to have ever lived in either Lancashire or Cheshire any more than I’ve lived in The Danelaw, Northumbria, Yr Hen Ogledd, Elmet or Brigantia.

Lancashire to me is “up there”. Blackpool Lancaster Preston Blackburn etc. And parts of Cheshire are more closely linked to Stoke than they are to Manchester.

I don’t really care for the lines on the map of Greater Manchester or the lines on the map for the boroughs within that neither. However, the conurbation that we live in does exist in reality as a physical feature on the land.

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If you looked at that without knowing where the current made up borough boundary lines were, you couldn’t possibly separate Salford, most of Manchester, North Trafford, Oldham and parts of Tameside. The same for South Trafford, South Manchester and Stockport.
[Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale much less so]

Part of Manchester city centre is in Salford. Ask anyone from Salford Trafford Manchester or Tameside where “Town” is and they’d all say “Manchester city centre”

Originally Manchester was only ever a small district (mainly Angel Meadow, Ancoats and what is now the city centre area) in the Salford Hundred.

It grew and at various times included or didn’t include areas that are now Trafford. Also at times when areas that are now Trafford were part of Manchester, there were areas that are now parts of Manchester that weren’t.

The de Trafford family once owned land in Whalley Range and Moss Side but they weren’t included as part of Trafford when the boroughs were devised.

My Mother’s family were from Moss Side and before that Cheetham Hill (after coming from Łomża in Poland) on her Father’s side, and Moss Side and Newton Heath on her Mother’s side. My Father’s family were from the Broomwood in Timperley and before that various areas of Timperley and Altrincham going back a few hundred years.

I was born at St Mary’s hospital in Town and my Mother’s house was on Russell St in Moss Side. Spent most of my childhood in Timperley, have lived in Manchester city centre, Chorlton-cum-Hardy and now live in Altrincham. I also lived in Warrington for three years (18-21) and certainly felt like that was a different place altogether, much like Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale.

Both of my parents consider themselves Mancunian, I see them both as Mancunian, and consider myself a Mancunian and feel like whenever I’ve lived in Manchester or Trafford I’ve lived in the same conurbation and city no matter what the boundary line says.

Manchester’s GDP includes the biggest industrial estate in Europe (Trafford Park), the second most visited shopping centre in Great Britain (Trafford Centre), the two big sports grounds in Stretford (Emirates Old Trafford and The Rags’ ground), Media City, Salford Quays, Trafford Wharf, as well as precincts/town/village centres like Stretford Salford Urmston Sale Altrincham Irlam Swinton Droylsden etc.

They all contribute to this city as a whole.

Manchester has grown up so much I think it’s much bigger than its borough. It’s outgrown those borough lines, quite massively in fact. Maybe not everyone from what I consider to be Manchester will consider themselves Mancunian, but I have no problem with anyone who does.
[again, not so with Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale]

Manchester has become to its conurbation what both London and Stoke did to theirs. Manchester is no longer a city, it’s a Metropolis. The Metropolis of Manchester has engulfed the cities and towns that were once distinct from it.
[yet again, less so with Wigan Bolton Bury and Rochdale]
 
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it's a graveyard in my ancient eyes, hundreds of thousands of "real jobs" never replaced, industries gone for ever. The very reason for it's existence, textiles and heavy engineering just memories. Christies and the University are world renowned, Chethams and the Halle as well, even the Manchester graun , but like other major conurbations, we have been hollowed out by the domination of London, which shows no sign of abating, in fact the government don't admit there is a problem. Sadly, the best is behind us, imo of course :(
 
bellbuzzer said:
it's a graveyard in my ancient eyes, hundreds of thousands of "real jobs" never replaced, industries gone for ever. The very reason for it's existence, textiles and heavy engineering just memories. Christies and the University are world renowned, Chethams and the Halle as well, even the Manchester graun , but like other major conurbations, we have been hollowed out by the domination of London, which shows no sign of abating, in fact the government don't admit there is a problem. Sadly, the best is behind us, imo of course :(
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Manchester is currently in its second biggest boom in its history.

Manchester is a Beta- city in the Globalisation and World Cities Research Network. At the same level of some capital cities like Belgrade, Dhaka, Edinburgh, Helsinki and Panama City and at the same level as other non-capital big cities like Lyon, Seattle and Valencia.

Manchester came out of the world financial crisis in much better state than many other cities worldwide and has bucked the trend against other non-London UK city plights within Conservative austerity measures and the looming Brexit.

Last time I looked only two units in the whole of Trafford Park were empty, Media City is constantly growing, housing prices across the whole conurbation are rising, the city centre is having one of the largest development phases in Europe, more companies are moving to Manchester than any other UK city, companies are actually leaving London and moving to Manchester on a fairly regular basis.

Yes, there are social problems, homelessness is bad, the litter/fly tipping/filth problem across the city has been really bad in the last decade, and the transport and road system can’t really cope with the volume of people living here; but overall the city is on the up and in many aspects, booming.

We very nearly got EXPO to come here. Missing out on that was a bit of a hit but the fact we were considered says a lot. EXPO is not some little European Capital Of Culture event, it’s a proper world event worth billions.

The best for this city may very well be ahead of us, not behind us. We are looking at being the “Silicon Valley” of this country
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/addictedtoproperty.co.uk/manchester-next-silicon-valley/amp/

The growth of the city centre is not slowing down and the tech and digital businesses are looking at our city for their futures. Industry has to move on. What was once the centre of the textiles world may well be world leading tech, enterprise and environmentally Green industries in coming decades.

Amazon are moving their main office, here, not London
https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/amazon-confirms-manchester-move/

As well as others
https://mancunion.com/2019/01/23/national-companies-moving-to-manchester/

The University of Manchester has moved up 24 places to 15th in the country over the last decade too. And that’s with the second largest student population in the country, with a large percentage of those now staying in the city to live after they graduate, we are keeping hold of talent.
 
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