Well, I don't really agree with that.It's no different to the American way of life.
The EU even wants to become more American, but with a "European" face.
Mate we can’t do any deal with the EU , those are the rules made up by the EU
It’s all pie in the sky until the withdrawal agreement is signed .
I don’t understand remainers refusal to see how this isn’t cake and eat it by the eu . All of this should have been wrapped up in one agreement dealing with exit and future trade .
I didn't mention immigration, because it's not an issue for me.You misspelled Immigration ..... in there somewhere
In all serious we are a few weeks away from Halloween and all sides say they want to leave with a deal.
If this was a huge piece of litigation the parties would be seeking to try and resolve differences by way of arbitration.
The eu negotiAtion team should be locked in a hotel room with the uk negotiating team and aided by a skilled arbitrator who is-experienced in dealing with international disputes. The fuckers should not be allowed out of the hotel until a deal has been reached.
I recall the last days of the GFA required a similar push and a sleepless night, as did the bail out deals of the banks.
We need to stop fucking about get in a room and get this thing resolved. Apparently that’s what the parties publicly state they want but this posturing is getting pathetic and boring.
In fairness, I wasn't on the thread myself and found it late into whatever incarnation of the thread it was at the time.Agreed - and you guys should have been on these threads pushing that point before the vote
The majority of posts from Remainers commenting on the GFA on these threads are not from people from the island of Ireland though - and yet you would think that they were all scholars on the subject
You don't have to.Well, I don't really agree with that.
I find the two places very different. I find the mindset very different.
I think I'd much prefer a European lifestyle. We'll leave it at that.
I'm more of a Caprese salad kind of guy than a Big Mac meal guy.
That's a welcome change of tone.
Just as you mentioned about remainers and the EU, I assure you not every single leave voter "hates" the EU, they are concerned about it's current direction. I'd stay in the EU no problems whatsoever, if only it would cease with this incessant drive for more sovereign powers over it's members. Peace, economy and civil liberties come first, and if Johnson cannot deliver, then I hope a no deal will be avoided, and if that means staying in, then we stay in, BUT it must be OUR decision, the electorates, not Parliaments. I used to care about the EU ignoring it's members and forcing them to comply with the decisions made by a minor few who had assumed positions of power, but not anymore. They'll all do what they always do, and I include our own MP's in that regard.
Just as with your feeling of how you're not arsed about being in the EU on any emotional attachment, I really am not arsed about the UK being a "major player" in the world. I'd rather us be more like a Denmark or a Norway or Australia; just doing it's thing, making the people happy, content with their lives, not trying to police the world or set the course of direction we think others should follow.
Climate change is an important issue as is the energy one, and it's those which needs to be sorted in the UN where every nation (is meant to) have an equal voice. I don't want "the strength of the EU" backing us up, getting us involved in their disputes they want to have; we had that as a poodle of the Bush and Reagan Administrations. The whole "EU" thing, just makes me think of things like the Triple Entente, except now the EU's trying to puff out it's chest to Russia and China whilst snubbing the US. Not only is it embarrassing, it's slightly worrying to me.
Undermining the GFA is a bonus to her.Foster of the DUP on the backstop choosing her words with care. She states ‘Unionism’ does not support the backstop. Not NI or the people of NI but just one specific group. If the U.K. Govt proceeds on supporting just this narrow definition of what is acceptable then there is going to be trouble ahead.
No ... its contractual law .... you can't negotiate with yourself whilst as a member of the other party.... cos if you don't like what's happening you can block it / vote against it.
Its in place to stop cherry picking ...
applied in every level of business.You have to extracte yourself from the 'Opposition' first before you negotiate.
I see your analogy but I'm not a fan of the American culture that we have been force fed since we were kids. Force fed is probably not the right term.You don't have to.
Like everything people pick and choose things they find associated with certain places. For example I see America as more of a BBQ flame griled steak than a Big Mac, and Europe as less of a Caprese salad and more like a bratwurst.
Same here, but i'm also realistic that whilst we continue to fund these "projects", there are still people living here that are not enjoying the same lifestyle as others currently do.The UK power thing isn’t first on my list.
I really care about being able to live in a nice place, have a good job and be able to enjoy my life.
It sounds selfish but I want it for everyone.
I’m paraphrasing here but an old Tory aristocrat and MP wanted to give the entire population of the east end baths over a century ago. A colleague of his said “the poor don’t deserve baths, look at how they riot when they don’t get what they want”, the MP said “its not for their benefit it’s for mine”.
You get what I’m trying to say. I want the economy strong and for business to boom so I can do well. I can then enjoy my life when their isn’t crime or social issues because of people being poor.
Brexit puts the above at risk.
You say that, but people often tend to question why I don't wish to be seen as "European".I see your analogy but I'm not a fan of the American culture that we have been force fed since we were kids. Force fed is probably not the right term.
We lapped it up. We are constantly taking it in subliminally. I blame the common use of the English language in reality. Most of Europe hung onto their culture less diluted as a result of having their own languages. A lot of that culture may seem twee now but I find greater wisdom and respect for traditions. Listen you can put etc etc etc on the end of that.
Truth is we won't agree. That's OK. That's allowed.
Of the bowel variety?Merkel says that "practical solutions" will be looked at for the border.
I smell movement.
Of the bowel variety?
Merkel says that "practical solutions" will be looked at for the border.
I smell movement.
I think the fracturing has a lot to do with the DUP who never wanted it and are propping up your Government.Yep there is pure opportunism on both sides
And given you view the GFA as badly fractured at the moment anyway - why should the UK population accept that it should be the driving force for deciding key UK policy?
Why didn't the UK talk to us before needing to involve Brussels.As did the EU.
Why isn't Ireland pressing Brussels on this as well?
Merkel says that "practical solutions" will be looked at for the border.
I smell movement.