"disgusting behaviour of that abomination of a club?". I would agree if you had said disgusting behaviour of some Liverpool fans, rather than resorting to ridiculous hyperbole and in fact said that I deplore what happened and that KdB's reaction was a lot milder than deserved.
I brought up his comments because while I think the actions of the fans in attacking the coach was disgraceful, if you were only to read what is written on this forum you would think that the coach had been set on fire and the players lynched.
It is just possible that De Bruyne was trying to play down the incident in order not to inflame the situation , and not to appear to be blaming the incident for the loss . Something which Liverpool fans could never do in similar circumstances.
Remember when Mane was sent off at the Etihad, and the reaction of the sporting Liverpool fans ?
Ederson was booed off the pitch by the visiting Liverpool supporters, as I recall.Certainly possible. De Bruyne had always come across as an intelligent and calm individual. While I personally believe he was speaking for himself rather than trying to downplay the incident, I can't deny that you may be right.
I'm not quite sure of your reference to the Liverpool fans reactions to Mabes sending off? I'm sure there were idiots either slating Mane or claiming Ederson did it on purpose (unfortunately there will always be fans of any club, including Liverpool, that live in denial). I didn't think it was a red card at first but in retrospect I now believe that it was dangerous and deserved it. Have I missed some particular egregious reaction?
Well if KDB had come out and said we the players and staff were shit scared it would give a green light to any set of numpty fans to attack our bus. After all it seems its impossible for the police of this country to stop an attack or find anyone.
Thankfully most fans dont attack team buses .
But if KDB had said they were shit scared it would be admitting that the coach attack had work just how the dipperpool fans wanted.
Ederson was booed off the pitch by the visiting Liverpool supporters, as I recall.
It's amazing how often you don't "realise" the bad things your club does.Ah, I had not realised that. There's no excuse for it - it was a serious injury and ederson had done nothing to justify booing in any event. I have no problem with booing a player when he's playing, that's just part of the game, but not when someone is injured and in the process of treatment or needing stretchered off.
Nice deflection in the last part of your post.
Why not " I brought up his comments but I think the actions of the fans in attacking the coach was disgraceful . "
Doesnt take long for the worms to turn when visiting here ..."disgusting behaviour of that abomination of a club?". I would agree if you had said disgusting behaviour of some Liverpool fans, rather than resorting to ridiculous hyperbole and in fact said that I deplore what happened and that KdB's reaction was a lot milder than deserved.
I brought up his comments because while I think the actions of the fans in attacking the coach was disgraceful, if you were only to read what is written on this forum you would think that the coach had been set on fire and the players lynched.
Unfortunately happened to Toure at Anfield on the Hillsborough anniversary(?) as well.Ah, I had not realised that. There's no excuse for it - it was a serious injury and ederson had done nothing to justify booing in any event. I have no problem with booing a player when he's playing, that's just part of the game, but not when someone is injured and in the process of treatment or needing stretchered off.
If you keep it civil you won’t have a problem. It’s not rocket science.
This is what I enjoy most about this thread - the way in which you choose to debate points with logic and reasoned arguments rather than resorting to simply listing unoriginal insults.
Incidentally, while I deplore what happened to the city bus (or any such incidents), and wish the culprits could have identified (I'm afraid I don't buy into the conspiracy theories about this), I find Kevin de Bruyne's response to what happened interesting :
City star De Bruyne said: “No, it didn't change anything. As long as you keep the violence down, there's nothing wrong with it. It was OK. I don't mind supporters doing that – I've had it a couple of times for my team and it's a nice feeling. Breaking windows is probably not done but who am I to say something? I am fine with it as long as no-one gets hurt.”
A lot milder reaction than I think was deserved.
You go on rawk and try and get away with some of the shit they post on here. Infact they won't let you joinI thought they were condescending as always describing us a “just a club”. We listen to derogatory comments everywhere & as soon as we give a bit back, censorship. I don’t get it, it wasn’t that bad.
Calling someone an "arrogant prick" isn't really being civil tbf.I thought they were condescending as always describing us a “just a club”. We listen to derogatory comments everywhere & as soon as we give a bit back, censorship. I don’t get it, it wasn’t that bad.
If you take the trouble to read the thread @Start2finish , you will learn that there are plenty of sensible posters on this forum who have become increasingly disgusted by the actions of Liverpool supporters , especially since the Klopp era began , whereas previously there was little antagonism between supporters , although visits to Anfield was always dodgy for City fans.
I personally do not think that this is a coincidence as he has built up the " intensity" surrounding the club and its fans. Sadly some of your fans are bordering on feral in their behaviour and I believe that Klopp has tapped into their level with his actions on and off the pitch. Enthusiasm you will no doubt say, but rabble rousing is a phrase which comes to mind.
You no doubt disagree which is your prerogative, but please do not come on here and try to insult out intelligence . We know as fans that the behaviour of a significant number of your supporters is just not acceptable.
Calling someone an "arrogant prick" isn't really being civil tbf.
Calling someone an "arrogant prick" isn't really being civil tbf.
Well, I would agree and disagree with parts of your comment. I personally feel from reading this forum that the hated of Liverpool and its fans is directly linked with the increasing success of the club and its current role as the main challenger to you. In the past there rarely seemed to be antagonism between the 2 sets of supporters (again , I'm taking generalities here) at a time when city were in the rise and Liverpool were going in the opposite direction.
I also believe that it is the role of a manager to connect with the fans, and that Klopps behaviour is generally positive although not perfect.
At the same time, there is no denying that the behaviour of some Liverpool fans is deplorable and getting worse. I'm not sure I would use the term feral, but I can understand why you would. Whether this is of frustration at the years of failure, at the worry that things might go backwards, or more likely, that some people are just deeply unpleasant 'fans' who can't operate in a civil society, I couldn't say, but I wish it were not the case.