General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
inbetween said:
Everytime I goto my local chinese they say they only accept cash, I wonder why?

Tax dodging capitalist scum.....
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Funding unrest in HK? Is that what China means when they accuse Britain of meddling in China's affairs? Your special fried rice is leading to serious unrest - how do you sleep at night lol !!
 
BlueAnorak said:
Incidently, May's deal was the half way house between Brexit and Remain. We would leave, be independent in name but once the trade deal was in place be in a position to easily rejoin in the future if the people willed it. Remainers and the Labour Party threw this option out. As a result you get the current Tory/ERG position, the Brexit Party and a radicalised Leave vote that may well destroy the Labour party on the 12th December.
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The self-defeating stupidity of the left knows no bounds.

Now they have the ERG in charge of the country, on the verge of 5 more years in power, and a Brexit harder than they would have ever got under May.
 
urban genie said:
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This sort of thing has a very limited appeal especially when the Tories could be heading for a 200+ majority on the back of mirroring Labour's 2017 manifesto spending commitments. Meanwhile McDonnell etc have doubled every figure in that and now added another £58bn for WASPI compensation by Christmas. The land of Marxist make believe is farther away than ever.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Incidently, May's deal was the half way house between Brexit and Remain. We would leave, be independent in name but once the trade deal was in place be in a position to easily rejoin in the future if the people willed it. Remainers and the Labour Party threw this option out. As a result you get the current Tory/ERG position, the Brexit Party and a radicalised Leave vote that may well destroy the Labour party on the 12th December.
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I always said i would have accepted may's deal, at the time and since.

But it was the tory party and ERG that ultimately rejected her deal, including Johnson twice. She had a majority with d.u.p support, could have put any deal in place.
 
Coatigan said:
I always said i would have accepted may's deal, at the time and since.

But it was the tory party and ERG that ultimately rejected her deal, including Johnson twice. She had a majority with d.u.p support, could have put any deal in place.
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The unvarnished truth, the Tories could have passed May's deal but the ERG decided to hold on for a crash out FTA next year. Which is what they and their backers in US health and insurance businesses will now get.
 
What a surprise.

From the BBC...

Tory manifesto only 59 pages with lots of pictures - some taking up a full page.

Feels like a deliberately stripped down manifesto to make sure no nasty policy surprises in it.
 
BoJo and the Holy Brexit Grail.
Pulling out of yet another public debate.
Bravest of the Brave, Sir Boris!

When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Boris turned about
And gallantly he chickened out
 
First lie............he said Labour want to scrap the armed forces................he's made that one up.

Oh and if he is so proud of the stance over Salisbury and the way Russia was stood up to he should publish the report rather than suppress it - surely he has nothing to hide?
 
The perfect fumble said:
What a surprise.

From the BBC...

Tory manifesto only 59 pages with lots of pictures - some taking up a full page.

Feels like a deliberately stripped down manifesto to make sure no nasty policy surprises in it.
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Yeah. It’s going to be short on detail for two reasons. One is to ensure nothing nasty can derail current polling numbers and two the next five years will be dominated by Brexit so there will be no room for anything else.

Starting to smell like ‘92 with a Tory Govt elected on a basic manifesto and beset by crisis over Europe.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yeah. It’s going to be short on detail for two reasons. One is to ensure nothing nasty can derail current polling numbers and two the next five years will be dominated by Brexit so there will be no room for anything else. Starting to smell like ‘92 with a Tory Govt elected on a basic manifesto and beset by crisis over Europe.
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Laura K says the country needs a giant leap of faith to believe in Boris, seems she's already jumped....
 
George Hannah said:
This sort of thing has a very limited appeal especially when the Tories could be heading for a 200+ majority on the back of mirroring Labour's 2017 manifesto spending commitments. Meanwhile McDonnell etc have doubled every figure in that and now added another £58bn for WASPI compensation by Christmas. The land of Marxist make believe is farther away than ever.
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Bucks Fizz did it in 1981 George!
 
George Hannah said:
Laura K says the country needs a giant leap of faith to believe in Boris, seems she's already jumped....
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Electing a party that refuses to set out any details or costings on its one and only major policy due to into own internal factions and has nothing else to offer except a bit on potholes and nurses is not so much a leap of faith but an act of blind stupidity.

Parties without energy or ideas make for a dismal Govt. Add in the lack of talent that is the Tory front bench and you are not even offering a basic level of competence.
 
BobKowalski said:
Electing a party that refuses to set out any details or costings on its one and only major policy due to into own internal factions and has nothing else to offer except a bit on potholes and nurses is not so much a leap of faith but an act of blind stupidity.

Parties without energy or ideas make for a dismal Govt. Add in the lack of talent that is the Tory front bench and you are not even offering a basic level of competence.
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You know the Manifesto game by now Bob, giving reliable information and costings about their own policies is not what they are for. The key thing is not to frighten the voters and allow them to think the very best about your party that's possible. Grisly detail is so counter productive -14 minute launch and just 29 pages of big pictures and weasel words.

Saddleworth2 said:
thats one word for it.
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"In this manifesto there is a vision for the future of this country in which we unite our amazing country and level up across the country."

"We believe that after three and a half years of being held back by a broken Parliament it is time to unleash the potential of the whole country and to forge a new Britain."


Language to stimulate the listener's imagination without actually saying anything specific.

"Vision for the future"
"Unite our amazing country"
"Level up across the country"
"Held back by a broken parliament"
"Unleash the potential"
"Forge a new Britain"

Sounds like phrases that would have been spoken in the 1930s in Nuremberg.

They know that they only have to fool enough of the people enough of the time.

They won't sell the NHS. Just open the door to US pharma companies and insurance companies to sell services and products to the NHS with a "free market" "best value" "fix a broken NHS" "safeguarding the NHS" wrapper.
 
BobKowalski said:
Electing a party that refuses to set out any details or costings on its one and only major policy due to into own internal factions and has nothing else to offer except a bit on potholes and nurses is not so much a leap of faith but an act of blind stupidity.

Parties without energy or ideas make for a dismal Govt. Add in the lack of talent that is the Tory front bench and you are not even offering a basic level of competence.
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or watch question time and see a member of the audience ask boris a difficult question about waspi. And think after you have already posted your fully costed manifesto with no mention of it.

oh shit that’s another thing we can give out and nick a few votes , yep we will pay that as well for you as well vote labour.

how much 58billion. How are you going to pay for it , fuck knows but it’s a vote winner .
 
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