Bring the Noise

[Deleted member 77198]

Everton take decent numbers away everywhere but vocally they’re worse than us.

Yeah they don’t really have any songs, Everton. But then atmosphere isn’t just about songs. You can have a great atmosphere without a single song being sung.

Look at the Liverpool home game in January. Apart from two five minutes spells in each half, we barely sung across the stadium, but everyone in the ground seemed involved in what really creates an atmosphere.

I think the #1 thing that sets the tone for atmosphere is people being active from their seat at all the “COME ON”s, “GO ON”s, “WELL IN”s, “FUCK OFF”s, “OI LINESMAN, YOU FUCKING BLIND YOU TWAT”s, “FUCK OFF REF”s, “OOOOOOOOH”s for near misses, “AAAAAAAAAAHHH”s for shit misses by the opposition, “BOOOOOOOO”s and whistles when the opposition has the ball, the “CI-TY CI-TY CI-TY”s and “COME ON CITY COME ON CITY”s.

You can tell how good an atmosphere is going to be in the first minute of any game because of how much of the above goes on around any ground.

Any Singing Section at any ground could sing for 90 minutes non-stop and it still be a shit atmosphere because the rest of the ground isn’t active (Palace for example, 90% of their whole ground is silent most of the game and when you’re there it’s not an impressive atmosphere at all).

One big one for me is that when we have good spells of impressive possession we should all chant “CI-TY CI-TY CI-TY”. It’s not a song, it’s just a little chant. But if we all knew that’s what we did at that time, it’s be something everyone knew they could be involved with.

Or when we have a corner we should all belt out “CIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...” before the corner is taken and “TY” when it’s crossed.
See 23 seconds in on this video as an example:


Things that everyone can get involved in and everyone knows when to do it.

Everton are definitely the best for limbs though!

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Interesting to see in The Graudian today that Rogers is telling (not asking but telling) the Leicester fans to stop leaving early!! So, as has been said before I know, it is not only us who have early leavers!!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/03/brendan-rodgers-leicester-fans-stop-leaving-early

Indeed. Even good fan bases have many early leavers - Sunderland and Newcastle have been bad for it over the years. Arsenal too. We must be the worst though.

People are like sheep. Ask 12500 of the 15000 people who leave early why they leave early and I bet they wouldn’t be able to give you an answer.

They do it because other people do it, or even because that’s what their Dad did in the 1970s so they’ve just always done it.

Obviously we wouldn’t be able to do it these days but it’d be nice to let locals in at ¾ time like the 1950s.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

When’s that. I’d say we had Liverpool and Tottenham last season, which really stood out. Other then that it was pretty average. Over the last ten years there’s barely been any, other then title deciders, the derby, which should be good anyway. And a couple of others ....

It’s loads more than you think.

Even our last two home games: second half was good against Chelsea (I noticed you said it was shit at the time yet quite a few of us said how much better it was, second half the Singing Section didn’t stop singing); and against Southampton https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b1t5 the MOTD commentator says “wow just listen to that Etihad noise” in the second half.

 

[trevorriley]

Yeah they don’t really have any songs, Everton. But then atmosphere isn’t just about songs. You can have a great atmosphere without a single song being sung.

Look at the Liverpool home game in January. Apart from two five minutes spells in each half, we barely sung across the stadium, but everyone in the ground seemed involved in what really creates an atmosphere.

I think the #1 thing that sets the tone for atmosphere is people being active from their seat at all the “COME ON”s, “GO ON”s, “WELL IN”s, “FUCK OFF”s, “OI LINESMAN, YOU FUCKING BLIND YOU TWAT”s, “FUCK OFF REF”s, “OOOOOOOOH”s for near misses, “AAAAAAAAAAHHH”s for shit misses by the opposition, “BOOOOOOOO”s and whistles when the opposition has the ball, the “CI-TY CI-TY CI-TY”s and “COME ON CITY COME ON CITY”s.

You can tell how good an atmosphere is going to be in the first minute of any game because of how much of the above goes on around any ground.

Any Singing Section at any ground could sing for 90 minutes non-stop and it still be a shit atmosphere because the rest of the ground isn’t active (Palace for example, 90% of their whole ground is silent most of the game and when you’re there it’s not an impressive atmosphere at all).

One big one for me is that when we have good spells of impressive possession we should all chant “CI-TY CI-TY CI-TY”. It’s not a song, it’s just a little chant. But if we all knew that’s what we did at that time, it’s be something everyone knew they could be involved with.

Or when we have a corner we should all belt out “CIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII...” before the corner is taken and “TY” when it’s crossed.
See 23 seconds in on this video as an example:


Things that everyone can get involved in and everyone knows when to do it.

Everton are definitely the best for limbs though!

Every corner should be city city city city

boo and whistle when opposition has the ball

clap every good pass or good tackle when we get back possession

Not that I like to single out players but in some games where we have bad history with a certain player ( mane ) boo like mad when he gets the ball.

I went to spurs away in CL, every time we tried to sing spurs fans booed, it silenced our poor efforts to sing.

This is all basic stuff, standard. Its aside to a singing section as its easy for the whole stadium to take part in.

 

[trevorriley]

It’s loads more than you think.

Even our last two home games: second half was good against Chelsea (I noticed you said it was shit at the time yet quite a few of us said how much better it was, second half the Singing Section didn’t stop singing); and against Southampton https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b1t5 the MOTD commentator says “wow just listen to that Etihad noise” in the second half.

fans come away from the game with different views, back of 115 for Southampton & Chelsea was great, yet other areas of the stadium said it was crap.

being in 115 ive often criticized away fans for being silent. Yet lads in SS3 next to the away fans up there have said they where loud.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

fans come away from the game with different views, back of 115 for Southampton & Chelsea was great, yet other areas of the stadium said it was crap.

being in 115 ive often criticized away fans for being silent. Yet lads in SS3 next to the away fans up there have said they where loud.

All these issues are connexted with the biggest issue with regards to atmosphere: the way the sound carries around the stadium from the bottom tier. Noise made from the back of the stadium carries much better than the front.

 

[Segga]

Our atmosphere goes from one extreme to the other. It’s very poor most of the time but it won’t need any extra incentive on Saturday it will be rocking.
ive been Anfield loads of times including when they thought they had it won in 2014 and even though it was loud it was no better then ours when we are in the mood.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Indeed. Even good fan bases have many early leavers - Sunderland and Newcastle have been bad for it over the years. Arsenal too. We must be the worst though.

People are like sheep. Ask 12500 of the 15000 people who leave early why they leave early and I bet they wouldn’t be able to give you an answer.

They do it because other people do it, or even because that’s what their Dad did in the 1970s so they’ve just always done it.

Obviously we wouldn’t be able to do it these days but it’d be nice to let locals in at ¾ time like the 1950s.

We have always had significant numbers of early leavers but at Maine Road they all seemed to be congregated in the Main Stand so couldn't be seen on TV so easily. In the late 60s the signal for people to leave was usually the sight of those invalid cars driving away in the corners. As well as this City fans have always been very late arriving at the stadium for the match to start. I think we are just an awkward lot really!

 

[trevorriley]

All these issues are connexted with the biggest issue with regards to atmosphere: the way the sound carries around the stadium from the bottom tier. Noise made from the back of the stadium carries much better than the front.

Im never one to blame aqcuistics, but it is strange at the Etihad. If 50 sing at the back of 115 it sounds like only 10. If 50 sing at Leicester away and bang on the steel sheets its like 500 !

 

[trevorriley]

We have always had significant numbers of early leavers but at Maine Road they all seemed to be congregated in the Main Stand so couldn't be seen on TV so easily. In the late 60s the signal for people to leave was usually the sight of those invalid cars driving away in the corners. As well as this City fans have always been very late arriving at the stadium for the match to start. I think we are just an awkward lot really!

those pale blue cars in the corners ! People didn't leave early in the kippax in the 70s, they just piled and crushed in at the back near the exits then ran like mad when the whistle went

 

[Squidward]

This is true, Liverpool don't have the best atmosphere even in the PL, the best stadium I went to last season in England for atmosphere was Wolves. Liverpool in a league game are quite a bit down the pecking order.. As for united away fans, where do they all go when they come to our place ?

Euro ultras dominate any atmosphere home and away, as my first city game was 1979 I have a rough idea of atmosphere on the kippax, it reached highs and lows but not a patch on Dortmund / Bayern / juve / Poznan and more.

We are going over the same ideas again that are not going to happen, what we should be doing is talking about how we make the most of what we have and how do we as fans make it a good atmosphere because when we have CL nights the euro fans certainly show us how it is done which kills me.

Here is a plan and what response do you think we would get if this went ahead ?

We play port vale in the fa cup at home, they may ( may not ) end up in tier 3 as sometimes away fans do in the fa cup due to ticket allocation.

"IF" this is the case this will free up the away end block lower SS tier. If we packed this with hardcore city fans this would link 114/155 with kippax as the whole lower tier SS would be city fans.

1894 could speak to the club and have a hold on the complete lower block where away fans usually are. What we would need is the hard core fans from all over the stadium to fill that away lower section. Tickets would be very cheap so we cant say we are priced out at all.

We had a chance a few years ago, it fell on its arse with response so it ended up with people sat down / day trippers in the away end.

Cant ask for much more than that as an opportunity to get singers grouped and cheap tickets can we ? But what response would we get or would it be excuses not to go in there ? And no there wouldn't be a drum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a good idea to me. Try and get plastered all over social media.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

It’s loads more than you think.

Even our last two home games: second half was good against Chelsea (I noticed you said it was shit at the time yet quite a few of us said how much better it was, second half the Singing Section didn’t stop singing); and against Southampton https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b1t5 the MOTD commentator says “wow just listen to that Etihad noise” in the second half.

I don’t agree with that. I sit in the east stand, block 107 and can hear loud and clear when the south stand and the corner sing. I only really heard either side sing once - ‘tearing cockneys apart again’. I actually thought the Watford game was much louder. We have 5 blocks standing who are being out sung by one block of away fans in the bottom tier most of the time.

As I said over the last few years we have had a few really good atmospheres. Spurs in the champions league and Liverpool in the league recently. However they are becoming so rare and are now the odd game. We need to consistently improve noise levels in the ground.

 

[CityMan3]

I just checked who we are playing next and it turns out it it's some team named manchester united? Never heard of them, and they had the audacity to name themselves manchester. Since we usually have good atmospheres in the big games can we bring some of that against this disgusting team even though it's not a big game? ;)

 

[CityMan3]

Just watched a vlog from our 3-1 win against the rags from the away end. Obviously it's biased (only showing when the away fans are singing) but it shows we have room for improvement at least a few times in a game ie: whistling when the rags have the ball near the end etc. Hopefully we do better than the Chelsea game and show what we really are capable of. They should be quivering in fright at the thought of playing here.
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[trevorriley]

Just watched a vlog from our 3-1 win against the rags from the away end. Obviously it's biased (only showing when the away fans are singing) but it shows we have room for improvement at least a few times in a game ie: whistling when the rags have the ball near the end etc. Hopefully we do better than the Chelsea game and show what we really are capable of. They should be quivering in fright at the thought of playing here.
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beats me why somebody would go to a game and make a fkn video, all clubs have em. That's just me im a dinosaur when it comes to phones, I ring and txt like. When I go to football im busy supporting my team.
Moving on, what is interesting is the link after which shows the 4-1 home stuffing of the rags. It was when the away fans had the huge area behind the goal, how wrong was that. Far better now how it is.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

beats me why somebody would go to a game and make a fkn video, all clubs have em. That's just me im a dinosaur when it comes to phones, I ring and txt like. When I go to football im busy supporting my team.
Moving on, what is interesting is the link after which shows the 4-1 home stuffing of the rags. It was when the away fans had the huge area behind the goal, how wrong was that. Far better now how it is.

No mate, you're not a dinosaur, anyone with their phone out at a football match is a ****.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Im never one to blame aqcuistics, but it is strange at the Etihad. If 50 sing at the back of 115 it sounds like only 10. If 50 sing at Leicester away and bang on the steel sheets its like 500 !

It's down to the roof. It's why the big chance for atmosphere at the Etihad was lost when they didn't allocate the new top tier of the south stand as the "New Kippax".

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I don’t agree with that. I sit in the east stand, block 107 and can hear loud and clear when the south stand and the corner sing. I only really heard either side sing once - ‘tearing cockneys apart again’. I actually thought the Watford game was much louder. We have 5 blocks standing who are being out sung by one block of away fans in the bottom tier most of the time.

As I said over the last few years we have had a few really good atmospheres. Spurs in the champions league and Liverpool in the league recently. However they are becoming so rare and are now the odd game. We need to consistently improve noise levels in the ground.

Against Chelsea the Singing Section sang one particular song for about eight minutes non-stop in the second half. It was loud and clear n'all, and they were jumping up and down (think it was "watching City on a Wednesday night...")

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Against Chelsea the Singing Section sang one particular song for about eight minutes non-stop in the second half. It was loud and clear n'all, and they were jumping up and down (think it was "watching City on a Wednesday night...")

It must be the acoustics or I’m going deaf. Because honestly I barely heard the south stand. Most of the time I can hear 115 - the people at the back in particular

 

[trevorriley]

Against Chelsea the Singing Section sang one particular song for about eight minutes non-stop in the second half. It was loud and clear n'all, and they were jumping up and down (think it was "watching City on a Wednesday night...")

this is true, I remember it well. If a song carries on for 7 or 8 minutes then it seems to pick up more momentum and travel better, also you get the bouncing round it creates visual for those at other areas of the stadium to connect with.

we suggest ticket prices, mention day trippers, but clearly the singers are there in enough numbers to create some noise as they did Vs Chelsea for that 8 minute spell. The ground didn't just swallow them up. don't get me wrong lowering ticket prices etc would help, but we are actually there to be heard in the first place.