Liverpool thread 2019/20

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schmee said:
Since I don't really post in here I'll state at the outset that I'm a Liverpool fan.

However I'm not really sure if it'd make much difference to my thoughts in that I believed last season both City and Liverpool would have traded titles/trophies/whatever anyone wants to name them.

For most big clubs the CL seems to be the priority. However I remember our last league winning team/squad and we've never had a team with the consistency to take that final step to winning the league. Simply because of the time passed since our last league title I would have preferred to have won the PL last year and would prioritise it this year if it came to that.

On the other hand if City focus on the CL they have at least as good a chance of anyone else of winning it. If you play to your best there aren't many teams that could keep up with you. Ironically your issue this year seems to be the consistency that we've suffered with (before anyone complains I fully aware between the gulf in quality between your squad and the vast majority of ours over the past 30 years so I'm just generalising and not saying it's the exact same thing).

Without trying to sound condescending when you win the CL (and I believe you will at some stage in the next few years) you can then decide which you prefer.

Likewise it's been so long since I've seen Liverpool win the league it'll be like a new feeling for all of us (if we win. Until it's no longer mathematically possible I can't allow myself to hope or dream too much having been burnt too many times over the years) and so I imagine it will be the exact same situation as when you win the CL.

I'm certain that members of both teams will prefer one over the other and not exactly agree with each other but that's just part of the reason we all love this game.

Of course I do not have any ideas of what any of you would prefer but in my opinion you've just won the PL twice with truly ridiculous stats and with an exceptional style of playing. You'd won the league before Pep came in. I always figured he was here to take you to next step in Europe.

I can't imagine too many of you here will be that upset at the end of the season if Liverpool have won the league but you go on to win the CL.

-disclaimer: I'm wrong about many, many things so please go easy I'd I am just coming across as an idiot.
And just in case it is another few years until I post again a very belated Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.

Glenn
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Decent post for a Dipper , usually find the fans who have followed them since the Dalglish era and prior are the more sensible and you can actually discuss football matters and jointly enjoy the demise of the Rags , unfortunately posters like Glenn are a rarity , its about a 10,000 to one chance of finding a decent Dipper.
 
schmee said:
Since I don't really post in here I'll state at the outset that I'm a Liverpool fan.

However I'm not really sure if it'd make much difference to my thoughts in that I believed last season both City and Liverpool would have traded titles/trophies/whatever anyone wants to name them.

For most big clubs the CL seems to be the priority. However I remember our last league winning team/squad and we've never had a team with the consistency to take that final step to winning the league. Simply because of the time passed since our last league title I would have preferred to have won the PL last year and would prioritise it this year if it came to that.

On the other hand if City focus on the CL they have at least as good a chance of anyone else of winning it. If you play to your best there aren't many teams that could keep up with you. Ironically your issue this year seems to be the consistency that we've suffered with (before anyone complains I fully aware between the gulf in quality between your squad and the vast majority of ours over the past 30 years so I'm just generalising and not saying it's the exact same thing).

Without trying to sound condescending when you win the CL (and I believe you will at some stage in the next few years) you can then decide which you prefer.

Likewise it's been so long since I've seen Liverpool win the league it'll be like a new feeling for all of us (if we win. Until it's no longer mathematically possible I can't allow myself to hope or dream too much having been burnt too many times over the years) and so I imagine it will be the exact same situation as when you win the CL.

I'm certain that members of both teams will prefer one over the other and not exactly agree with each other but that's just part of the reason we all love this game.

Of course I do not have any ideas of what any of you would prefer but in my opinion you've just won the PL twice with truly ridiculous stats and with an exceptional style of playing. You'd won the league before Pep came in. I always figured he was here to take you to next step in Europe.

I can't imagine too many of you here will be that upset at the end of the season if Liverpool have won the league but you go on to win the CL.

-disclaimer: I'm wrong about many, many things so please go easy I'd I am just coming across as an idiot.
And just in case it is another few years until I post again a very belated Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.

Glenn
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Welcome. I'll be gutted, even of we win the CL, but I'll put a brave face on it and pretend that means more than the league.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Decent post for a Dipper , usually find the fans who have followed them since the Dalglish era and prior are the more sensible and you can actually discuss football matters and jointly enjoy the demise of the Rags , unfortunately posters like Glenn are a rarity , its about a 10,000 to one chance of finding a decent Dipper.
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Agree with much of your post, apart from the odds, which are slightly on the harsh side! They do have a higher proportion of nobs than any other club, though.

I know a couple of long term Anfield season ticket holding mates who I’ll be genuinely made up for, but that will be more than counterweighted by the puke-Inducing reaction of the majority of their fan base, as well as the media - and by some measure.

Buckle up, it’s going to be horrible.

And welcome @schmee

*wonders how long before the attack dogs start circling...*
 
Not just Sheff or United. Also Ancelotti Napoli beat Liverpool in BOTH home and away in CL group stage (okay, a 2-1 and a 1-1, still Dippers just can't win Napoli), plus Nap beat them last time 3-0 too in Friendlies. Credit to Ancelotti though.
So yeah, this fu-cker cnut Dippers aren't unbeatable like how them or the media blow them up to be.
 
The problem with such a big lead is they can afford to lose games in order to rotate for the CL and Fa cup, I’m hoping Madrid and Everton turn them over because if they win back to back CL and the league, you think they are unbearable now you ain’t seen nothing yet.
 
Liverpool fan here. Just wanted to say a lot of the stuff you guys say about their fan base can really be trundled down to a combination of isolated fans and the fact that the extremists are the most vocal ones on social media. The bus attack, I haven’t met a single Liverpool fan who was either involved or thought it was acceptable. I don’t think it’s acceptable. But to be judged based on what the minority does is and always has been pretty dangerous thinking.

Ill give you an example. About 5 years ago a bunch of Chelsea fans booed during the Hillsborough minute of silence. Going by that, would it be fair if I concluded all Chelsea fans were like that? PSG could claim every single Chelsea fan was racist after that Paris train incident. Just making the point that idiots will exist in any fanbase, and it feels a bit harsh that I come on here just to see how city fans view the season and get all kinds of derogatory language because I support a direct rival that happens to be playing and doing well.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Agree with much of your post, apart from the odds, which are slightly on the harsh side! They do have a higher proportion of nobs than any other club, though.

I know a couple of long term Anfield season ticket holding mates who I’ll be genuinely made up for, but that will be more than counterweighted by the puke-Inducing reaction of the majority of their fan base, as well as the media - and by some measure.

Buckle up, it’s going to be horrible.

And welcome @schmee

*wonders how long before the attack dogs start circling...*
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Don't forget GDM there are 500m Dippers , if my maths is correct , not the best with a Henessy hang over ,thats 500k , decent ones , i might have underestimated :)
 
John93 said:
Liverpool fan here. Just wanted to say a lot of the stuff you guys say about their fan base can really be trundled down to a combination of isolated fans and the fact that the extremists are the most vocal ones on social media. The bus attack, I haven’t met a single Liverpool fan who was either involved or thought it was acceptable. I don’t think it’s acceptable. But to be judged based on what the minority does is and always has been pretty dangerous thinking.

Ill give you an example. About 5 years ago a bunch of Chelsea fans booed during the Hillsborough minute of silence. Going by that, would it be fair if I concluded all Chelsea fans were like that? PSG could claim every single Chelsea fan was racist after that Paris train incident. Just making the point that idiots will exist in any fanbase, and it feels a bit harsh that I come on here just to see how city fans view the season and get all kinds of derogatory language because I support a direct rival that happens to be playing and doing well.
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You're the Chief Constable of Merseyside Police and I claim my £5..!
 
I've been bitter myself to Liverpool the past couple of years, however if they won the treble what would happen to united fans it is the one thing they have over everyone else. I dunno if I could stomach it, never been arsed about the scousers as we weren't rivals for most of my life until recent years, doesn't help that we never beat them at Anfield like. Going to be an interesting 5 months ahead.
 
John93 said:
Liverpool fan here. Just wanted to say a lot of the stuff you guys say about their fan base can really be trundled down to a combination of isolated fans and the fact that the extremists are the most vocal ones on social media. The bus attack, I haven’t met a single Liverpool fan who was either involved or thought it was acceptable. I don’t think it’s acceptable. But to be judged based on what the minority does is and always has been pretty dangerous thinking.

Ill give you an example. About 5 years ago a bunch of Chelsea fans booed during the Hillsborough minute of silence. Going by that, would it be fair if I concluded all Chelsea fans were like that? PSG could claim every single Chelsea fan was racist after that Paris train incident. Just making the point that idiots will exist in any fanbase, and it feels a bit harsh that I come on here just to see how city fans view the season and get all kinds of derogatory language because I support a direct rival that happens to be playing and doing well.
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Just as a matter of interest...why didn't you come on here at the end of last season just after you'd beaten Wolves to see how City fans view the season...I mean...why now?
 
bakerdave76 said:
How old are you ? Boss football, Ffs !
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Any one else get a private message of Big Kenny d ,15 minutes before kick off last night lots of city bingo here , I wouldn't have any of them on here .ps Boss that I think I hit a nerve [emoji23][emoji23]
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bakerdave76 said:
Any one else get a private message of Big Kenny d ,15 minutes before kick off last night lots of city bingo here , I wouldn't have any of them on here .ps Boss that I think I hit a nerve [emoji23][emoji23]
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Can we not make it a tad more difficult for this sort of shit to happen?
 
Robinho's Subbuteo said:
Can we not make it a tad more difficult for this sort of shit to happen?
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I guess we could technically prevent new users from sending PMs straight away, but that'd be punishing a lot of people on the basis of one crank. Thankfully this type of thing doesn't happen often.
 
So here goes...I've been a long term lurker on here, but I joined today because I want to give you guys some advice that genuinely comes from a place of love. I'm a Birmingham fan, so the top of the prem is about as far away from my clubs interests as an ant copying the hunting tactics of a lion. First some background, I grew up in the era where Liverpool were the dominant team in football, and with a few family members supporting them, I always enjoyed watching them play.

I never liked united or Chelsea but loved that early 2000's Arsenal team. Then you guys came along, and you gave me hope that maybe at some point my club could get an investor and although it's doubtful we'd get one like yours, there would be a chance to propel us up the food chain and make us relevant. I identified with you guys seeing you struggle through the lower leagues and you easily became the team I'd always watch out for in the league. Then you got Pep (whose Barca team is probably the greatest I've ever seen), so city winning the league with 100 pts a season, playing the football of the gods for a decade until we get our house in order and rightfully rise to our birthright at the top of the league would have been the ideal scenario for me - and I'm sure most of you wouldn't have minded that either!

However, this forum is a poor reflection on city this year; the conspiracy theories flying around are, to an outsider, insane. I'm a member of a few footie forums, including a Liverpool one, and last year they were full of praise and admiration for the title-winning run you put together. It wasn't a bottle job - they finished with a points tally that only one team in English league history had bettered. Twice!

Football by it's very nature is cyclical, which is why united went 26 years without winning it, and liverpool are at 30. Your owners mean that cycle is no longer relevant to you, so you'll always be around that level. You'll win it far more regularly than any other club in my opinion. That's the point, you can't win it every single year, so learning how to not cry foul every time someone else has a better season is important.

Instead of drugs, var, media, any other Alex Jones-esque infowars bullshit conspiracy theories, don't lower yourselves to that level. Re-group next year and take it back, rather than it being everyone else's fault that you're going to lose it this year.

I know you're probably going to call me a red, if everything I've read on these pages over the last few weeks is anything to go by, but I genuinely want you guys to be better than you're being. Take that with the intended sincerity, or tell me to fuck off, it's up to you.
 
Ric said:
I guess we could technically prevent new users from sending PMs straight away, but that'd be punishing a lot of people on the basis of one crank. Thankfully this type of thing doesn't happen often.
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I suspect it may become more often in the coming months. Hope I’m wrong.
 
Could you make it so replies to pm's are only allowed until a number of posts is reached. Bit silly that you can't reply, t not sure why us noobs would need to be firing out pm's when we don't know folks yet.
 
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