UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%

  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%

  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%
  • Total voters
    1,499
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Shaelumstash said:
The fact Ceferein has clearly been in discussions with City.

Coupled with Sorriano being at pains to point out we have "no problem with UEFA".

And Ceferein's / Panja's comments today, it feels like change is coming.
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I`m more and more convinced that Ceferein is not only behind City but that he wants to rid UEFA of the so called G14 shitbags.
 
Parisian said:
No.

More like the old powers/old rich against the new richer money. Same way less rich nobles would despite way richer commoners who were trying to 'buy their way' into their class/caste. They felt the same way about Abramovitch but it took time to elaborate a scheme to stop other clubs doing the same thing.

Now, ask neutral fans, they see City and PSG as cheat and Chelsea as a legit big club. Pretty funny. The funniest thing is that among them are Chelsea fans despising both our clubs for what their own club did. They then say that the model has changed and they are sustainable now. Isn't it what our owners are doing too ? PSG 200 M QTA replace by Nike/Jordan, Accor and co. City looking for a new sponsor to replace (and upgrade) Etihad deal.

I'm thankful for our owners because even when they will leave, they'll let the club with strong structure, brand and income.
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I agree with what you say, but I wonder there might be an additional racial element, (particularly in our country), that increases the resentment?
Chelsea were disliked for their threat to the football establishment but I don't remember any comments about "russian money" we frequently hear "Arab" this and that.
 
oakiecokie said:
I`m more and more convinced that Ceferein is not only behind City but that he wants to rid UEFA of the so called G14 shitbags.
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It's a definite maybe. I don't trust him though he's worried that he's backed the wrong horse now and his organisation will pay the price. He should have got rid of the cartel before City threatened to take them and down for him. The difference being that if City do it Cerefin goes down too. I wonder if City have given him a last chance to clear them out.
 
SilverFox2 said:
So do you think re your last para but one that UEFA are turning the tables on the militants by sacrificing their chambers? Originally it was thought to be UEFA as the sacrifice by the hawks if CAS went pear shaped for them.
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Yes mate, exactly that.

The Chambers can be seen as necessary collateral damage.

Anything to preserve UEFA's piece of the pie continuing.
 
Cobwebcat said:
He's supposed to support City too. Just our luck that the one journalist that could at least print our side of the story just leads the fight against us.
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I don't and i won't believe he supports City. He is like on a personal vendetta.

About FFP, ok, i get it. He can write this stuff if he really thinks it is true as a journalist (even though most of those are allegations rather than facts). But, the club won a trophy and the first thing to do is write about the owner investing in the club in order to somehow diminish the value of this victory.

I dunno, i didn't see people writing about Real Madrid winning 3 CL in a row because they had broke the transfer record to buy Cristiano Ronaldo. Or MU trophies being belittled because they were the financial juggernaut of the PL.

This can only be written by an hater.
 
oakiecokie said:
I`m more and more convinced that Ceferein is not only behind City but that he wants to rid UEFA of the so called G14 shitbags.
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Becouse we present less threat to UEFA and more of a modern way of how the game should be run rather than the old guard who threaten them with breakaway leuge ?
 
Parisian said:
I don't and i won't believe he supports City. He is like on a personal vendetta.

About FFP, ok, i get it. He can write this stuff if he really thinks it is true as a journalist (even though most of those are allegations rather than facts). But, the club won a trophy and the first thing to do is write about the owner investing in the club in order to somehow diminish the value of this victory.

I dunno, i didn't see people writing about Real Madrid winning 3 CL in a row because they had broke the transfer record to buy Cristiano Ronaldo. Or MU trophies being belittled because they were the financial juggernaut of the PL.

This can only be written by an hater.
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Unless it's his job to report that way and he loves his job more than City?
 
oakiecokie said:
I`m more and more convinced that Ceferein is not only behind City but that he wants to rid UEFA of the so called G14 shitbags.
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My view is Ceferin is a "politician". He will always try to strike a deal if possible not to burn any bridge. It is not in his interest. The fact he reportedly offered a deal to City seems consistent with Le Monde article i had posted : UEFA chiefs had offered a deal to PSG but FFP chambers refused and kept going. Seems like the exact same scenario being played out here.

That said, i don't think he wants to get rid of the G14 either. They are too powerful for him to antagonize them. He is trying to manage both camps.
 
It seems clear that the purpose of Ceferin's statement is to show that machinery for dealing with those thought to have infringed FFP (seriously or not) is independent of executive interference and that the AC and IC are independent of each other. This is meant to reinforce the official position and refute City's claim that UEFA are judge, jury, executioner and any other role in the process. City are supposed to have had an impartial, objective hearing from squeaky clan seekers after truth and wisdom such as M. Leterme. His ignorance of any details of the "trial" shows that any nonsense about him trying to "broker a deal" must be absurd and figments of the imagination. UEFA is united in its attempts to see justice done.

PS It is not hard to see how the media will rally to such a sincere, right thinking idealist. City must be guilty of whatever the charges are and evidence shouldn't be needed though St Ceferin seems to believe CAS might be finicky enough to believe it is.

But however high the stakes are for City they are sky high for UEFA and they are getting nearer and nearer to the stage in proceedings where matters will be decided by those determined to enforce the law not some mickey mouse regulations dreamt up to please those bullying UEFA and the ground under UEFA's feet is getting marshier and marshier.
 
Parisian said:
My view is Ceferin is a "politician". He will always try to strike a deal if possible not to burn any bridge. It is not in his interest. The fact he reportedly offered a deal to City seems consistent with Le Monde article i had posted : UEFA chiefs had offered a deal to PSG but FFP chambers refused and kept going. Seems like the exact same scenario being played out here.

That said, i don't think he wants to get rid of the G14 either. They are too powerful for him to antagonize them. He is trying to manage both camps.
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An impossible task now. He has to pick a side. Both sides could finish him.

What a mess. This is what greed does.
 
Coatigan said:
They've always been the good guys. We're the bad guys. Keep up!
Wouldn't want our media to have wasted their words would we.
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Parisian said:
My view is Ceferin is a "politician". He will always try to strike a deal if possible not to burn any bridge. It is not in his interest. The fact he reportedly offered a deal to City seems consistent with Le Monde article i had posted : UEFA chiefs had offered a deal to PSG but FFP chambers refused and kept going. Seems like the exact same scenario being played out here.

That said, i don't think he wants to get rid of the G14 either. They are too powerful for him to antagonize them. He is trying to manage both camps.
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From the onset this has always been a political motivated move by the G14 camps and IMO has nothing to do with sporting reasons.
 
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