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Marvin said:
yes. I just came back to edit my post to say the same thing. You are spot on. Something like that could twist the results.

This is the type of analysis we need rather than the atories the BBC pumps out about deaths. it might be shocking, and important but I would like to know how close the European epidemics are to turning. I think they are close.
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It’s the only way to get people to isolate unfortunately
 
Tricky_Trev said:
Please let this be a genuine trend. Everyone needs the boost.
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I know. I am guilty of looking for it, and Uffa make a good point that it relies on the new cases being determined in the same way and not a statistical effect of different testing.

I'll have a go at Spain's data too and edit this post when I've done it

Edit: For spain

18/03, 2943/1884 = 1.56
19/03, 3308/2943 = 1.12
20/03, 3494/3308 = 1.06
21/03, 3803/3494 = 1.09

To be honest you get a better assessment just by looking at the curve of new cases then you see it in its totality. I just like the fact that the figures were approaching 1 and I could show that.

They wobble around a lot.

Fingers crossed that they move the right way tomorrow. I would very much like some good news too so we know this is going to be over in a reasonable period and so that people in Italy and Spain do not suffer too much more.
 
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TCIB said:
Still no delivery slots available on tesco, waitrose, booth's, asda, morrisons with the village shops all being sold out due to the high functioning wonderful people panic buying everything. Just walked to every shop in the village after some bread, not even crap bread available, literally nothing on the shelf.

I hope the panic buying types are content with their 200 bog rolls, 50 litres of milk and metric ton of bread. They should all be tagged Inglourious Basterds style.
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I can sell you some milk bread and loo roll ?:)
 
Marvin said:
I know. I am guilty of looking for it, and Uffa make a good point that it relies on the new cases being determined in the same way and not a statistical effect of different testing.

I'll have a go at Spain's data too and edit this post when I've done it
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Hey thanks for this Marvin. Which ever way this goes its good to see empirical evidence being used to actually inform us what's going on
 
More than 5,000 people in the UK have now been infected with coronavirus.

It comes as the number of COVID-19-related deaths has risen to 233 after 53 more fatalities were announced in England.

NHS England said the patients who died were aged between 41 and 94 and all had underlying health conditions.

Wales's number of dead has risen to five, Scotland's now stands at seven and Northern Ireland's remains at one.

In the UK, there has been a rise of 1,035 confirmed cases in a day to 5,018.

London continues to represent more than a third of all UK deaths - an increase of 19 on Saturday, eight of which were at one hospital trust, London North West Healthcare NHS Trust.

The capital now has 90 deaths, followed by 42 in the South East, 32 in the West Midlands, 19 in the North West, 12 in the South West, nine in the East Midlands, eight in Yorkshire and the Humber and four in the North East.
 
Apparently one of the common symptoms is greatly reduced sense of smell and taste. I just found out about this important symptom yesterday and yet I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time scouring the news. This is one of the first symptoms I’ve heard of that is not also common to other viruses, infections, and allergies that are prevalent this time of year. I wonder why it’s not being publicized more.
 
Had a quick look at the legislation around closures that was enacted at 2pm today, The Health Protection (Coronavirus Business Closure) (England) Regulations 2020.

Pubs, bars, restaurants, theatres, cinemas and nightclubs the most obvious categories. Spas and massage parlours also in there!

Summary powers, and therefore swift justice, but only punishable by way of an unlimited fine. That surprised me. Guess they don’t want to be locking people up if they can avoid it.
 
SkyBlueTX said:
Apparently one of the common symptoms is greatly reduced sense of smell and taste. I just found out about this important symptom yesterday and yet I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time scouring the news. This is one of the first symptoms I’ve heard of that is not also common to other viruses, infections, and allergies that are prevalent this time of year. I wonder why it’s not being publicized more.
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It’s the test they are using on nhs staff, a spray that if you can smell and or taste means you’re fit to work on the corona virus ward
 
National Trust to close parks from midnight

NEWS: Delighted that 4,000 nurses and 500 doctors have signed up to return to the NHS in the first 48 hours of our call. Brilliant support in our national effort tackling #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/8IPJE1Pj6g

— Matt Hancock (@MattHancock) March 21, 2020

Flights into New York City airports and Philadelphia temporarily suspended

Puerto Rico confirms first death

Puerto Rico says a passenger on the Costa Luminosa cruise ship has become the first person in the US territory to die after contracting coronavirus.

Georgia declares one-month emergency situation

Italy deaths increase by 793 in a day

Pret says it is temporarily closing all of its UK shops from tonight

Guatemala orders curfew

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-89-new-cases-in-wales-takes-uk-total-past-4-000-11961367
 
Marvin said:
They maybe but I have no doubt that their infection in Wuhan is over for the moment and that nationally it is for the moment under control

See Italy. There is no way you could hide the scale of those effects.

You should also consider that China sequenced the virus within days and gave that sequence to the world. Consider the consequences had they not. Testing regimes would be way further behind and importantly vaccine development would be way behind too.

Chinese virus? he used that again today. Someone should ask Trump where Spanish flu came from.
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A) They did hide it for a period of time until they couldn’t. The WHO released info, based on what the Chinese government told them, saying it wasn’t evident humans could give it to other humans. This was end of January, when he had already spread significantly.

B) Spanish Flu was called that purely because Spain weren’t at war and therefore didn’t put out propaganda, as they had no troops to keep fighting. It didn’t start there and they just had it similarly to everyone else. This flu was started by Chinese custom and tradition in that region, they didn’t get a grip of these wet markets and therefore it’s not comparable to the unfairness of Spanish Flu being named as such.
 
Mayor West said:
What exactly does 'Lake Boy' think is going on then?
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Thinks the world has taken a dark turn like Nazism. First get you into fear mode, make you hide at home then bombard you with propaganda like 1984 so you'll obay.

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All a load of tin foil hat stuff.
 
"There are significant numbers of people who have died but whose death hasn't been attributed to the coronavirus because they died at home or in a nursing home and so they weren't swabbed," said the mayor of Bergamo, Italy Giorgio Gori [Reuters, Milan]

Of the Closed cases 10,897 (Closed meaning either died of the virus or have recovered) of Covid-19, 44% have died totalling 4,825. As of this present time there are officially 53,578 cases of Covid-19 in Italy. If we were to use 44% of this total as an average for all present cases in Italy of the 53,578 official cases we could be looking at 23,574 eventual deaths for cases registered up to today’s date (Worldometers)
 
SkyBlueTX said:
Apparently one of the common symptoms is greatly reduced sense of smell and taste. I just found out about this important symptom yesterday and yet I’ve spent an inordinate amount of time scouring the news. This is one of the first symptoms I’ve heard of that is not also common to other viruses, infections, and allergies that are prevalent this time of year. I wonder why it’s not being publicized more.
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I lose smell and taste pretty much every time I get a cold.
 
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