UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[OntarioBlue]

I doubt if they asked for his opinion.

Tbh, I doubt he even cares that much. He was an Arsenal player, came to City for management education when his playing career ended and went back to Arsenal at the first opportunity. I think it’s clear where his loyalties lie.

 

[Jack Hackett]

Manchester City believe Arsenal are behind the plot to have their European ban upheld if the COVID-19 crisis prevents an appeal. Arsenal will inform Manchester City that their information is false if the Etihad club contact them directly about the matter

City officials have information from trusted sources that the move was instigated by Arsenal – and are angry that Liverpool joined Man United, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves and Burnley in an attempt to pressure CAS. Arsenal refused to comment on the suggestion

@MirrorFootball

Probably john cross so might not be true

I would be surprised if we were seen to be ring leaders

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Remember when Real Madrid were in the galactico stage? No-one seemed to give a fuck about ruining football at that time.

All's fair when the Spanish Council are purchasing a 3m x 3m bit of training ground wasteland from you for about £300m(?) back in the day.

Back then, football was football and on a level playing field...........












Oh, and I'll just leave this here;

;-)

 

[JGL07]

The UK's realationship with the EU has nothing at all to do with this matter. TfEU was in no way a European imposition but is rather a statement of commercial law as it existed in western European capitalist, free market economies at the time. Ever since 1945 at least every free economy in Europe has seen investment and competition as the only way to reconstruction and prosperity. British airlines were fined massively for acting as a cartel to force Freddy Laker out of business in the 1960s and attempts to prevent investment have always been illegal. TfEU simply stated clearly and unambiguously that these anti competitive practices were, as they had been for many years, unlawful throughout the EU, including those new members from the old Soviet bloc. The ECJ will be no more sympathetic to UEFA and the cartel than our courts, or vice versa after this year.

Your Freddie Laker timescale is way out. He went bust in 1981 not in the 1960s. I am not aware that British Airways were fined at all although they certainly were operating in an anti-competitive manner.

Laker did sue BA, TWA, PanAm for Predatory Pricing. That involved undercutting Laker’s fares to an unsustainably low figure. Laker’s organisation was lean and he could make profits, BA were not. Even with 100% loads they would still have lost money because of their bureaucratic structure. They didn’t need to be sustainable as Laker was forced out of business very quickly and the fares went up again.

The action never came to Court as BA, etc, basically bribed Laker to settle out of court by offering big bags of money.

Not unlike the situation City are in today! Force City out of the game and allow the likes of Milan, United, and Arsenal to resume their hereditary places.

 

[laserblue]

I would be surprised if we were seen to be ring leaders

Yet the earlier letter sent by the domestic cartel to the Premier League complaining about City's spending was on an Arsenal letterhead. The derogatory term 'financial doping' in relation to City was coined by Arsene Wenger too.

 

[KS55]

I wouldn’t for one second defend the spineless Platini, but he did, pre ffp as we know it, show a good deal of concern about club debts. In fact he even went as far as to label certain clubs ‘cheats’ for playing in European competition whilst running huge debts. He named 2 clubs in England as examples- one from London and one quite close to us geographically!
To me, nothing illustrates the dead hand of gill and his gang behind the scenes better, than the almost polar opposite version of ffp that we see now, compared to the one that the testicularly challenged Platini had sought.
But he got his big fat cheque eventually so everything’s fine in uefa land.

This is much closer to the mark than the post by@Jam Tomorrow.
1. FFP was invented to stop Chelsea, or at least inspired by their activity. Abramovich, however, got in under the wire. We followed soon after but were caught by it before we had completed our new built side.
2. Platini intended to stop debt being used to create an advantage but G14 refused to play ball. MANU, Arsenal, Barca, Real were big debtors at the time. The P&L based version was largely invented in the Real boardroom and Platini just had to swallow it or G14 would have set up their own Eurocomp.
3 Gross debt still rising. Manu, Barca, Real still lead the way. For political and social reasons the debts of the Spanish clubs will never be called in, but Manu is a different proposition. Uefa report net debt, which relies on some doubtful asset values, so Barca and Real are not in net debt. Current gross debt of these three is approx £2bn.

 

[birch villa]

Manchester City believe Arsenal are behind the plot to have their European ban upheld if the COVID-19 crisis prevents an appeal. Arsenal will inform Manchester City that their information is false if the Etihad club contact them directly about the matter

City officials have information from trusted sources that the move was instigated by Arsenal – and are angry that Liverpool joined Man United, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves and Burnley in an attempt to pressure CAS. Arsenal refused to comment on the suggestion

@MirrorFootball

Probably john cross so might not be true

 

[birch villa]

Arsenal wow wot a surprise

 

[Barcon]

I hope every single one of these American owners lose their fucking shirt and end up flat fucking broke.

 

[KS55]

I hope every single one of these American owners lose their fucking shirt and end up flat fucking broke.

Lets help them out by buying Mane and Salad.