COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[BlueRockape]

The only way I can see this fucker being eradicated is a vaccine

 

[cleavers]

Dreadful rise in both cases and hospital deaths today.

Not really in new cases, today is only 220 more than Friday's total, and every weekend has shown a fall in numbers than Friday's have. We were increasing by 700 a day last week, so only 220 more than Friday is certainly suggesting a slow down since then.

 

[oakiecokie]

Who says we shouldn’t be shocked, you. I’m shocked wether you or any else likes it or not.
I’m not stupid, I know what they say, they say a lot. Agree totally if this increases at today’s rate of growth I’d be very nervous. Your opinion is valued but telling me when or not to be shocked is not on.

So just tell me why you are shocked.Seriously.

 

[kaz7]

I wouldn't trust sky news if they told me today was Tuesday.

I get you but they have been really good with the numbers,the bbc keep drifting off to other subjects and i can't follow them

 

[blueparrot]

Go on then. Explain right now why if you infected 1000 people on 1 day in a City with almost zero cases beforehand, there wouldn't be a spike 19 days later.

What happens 19 days later?

Surely if there was going to be a spike in deaths, first would come a spike in new cases, as far as I can tell Liverpool hasn’t seen a particular spike in new new cases so it looks like the Madrid fans had little impact. Obviously Cheltenham is harder to quantify as they came from all over.

 

[kaz7]

The government has said there are now 25,150 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19-11966273

What is our death rates as a % ?

 

[oakiecokie]

The only way I can see this fucker being eradicated is a vaccine

Maybe a humungous meteorite hitting planet earth would help.

 

[cleavers]

I get you but they have been really good with the numbers

I don't watch it, so I'll have to take your word on it, in any case its not worth hanging on every stat as nobody actually knows the numbers at all.

 

[Chippy_boy]

How many of those 1000 will die and when? It's a very simple question.

Before ones in the 2,500 that they infected and ones in the next the 6,250 and the ones in the 15,625 who followed them.

So where's your peak in that lot? in the first batch? No, the peak is later, only higher.

 

[domalino]

Surely if there was going to be a spike in deaths, first would come a spike in new cases, as far as I can tell Liverpool hasn’t seen a particular spike in new new cases so it looks like the Madrid fans had little impact. Obviously Cheltenham is harder to quantify as they came from all over.

Yes exactly. There'd be a spike in case first, but then deaths. Cases are hard to measure though because of the limited testing.

Cheltenham would also have a spike, because despite a wide audience, I would say based on experience roughly 25% of the crowd is still local and the biggest risk of infecting people could actually be in town in the bars and pubs, clubs and restaurants mingling with the locals after the racing. So you'd still get a local peak.

People are being ruled by their emotions over seeing gathered crowds and not looking at what's actually happened. If the Liverpool match or Cheltenham had been a big infection events then we'd have seen it reflected in the cases and deaths locally by now.

There's a reason that the epidemiologists didn't think sporting events at that point was a danger and they've been proven correct.

 

[squirtyflower]

The government has said there are now 25,150 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the UK

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19-11966273

What is our death rates as a % ?

91% this morning

 

[kaz7]

The number of confirmed cases doesn't give a "death rate" karen. It gives a "case fatality rate" or CFR. It's not a very useful number to be honest but it's the easiest to calculate. Much more useful is the "Infection Fatality Rate" or IFR which tells you much more about the virus but it's not easy to calculate at the moment.

That went over my head but thanks,i was hearing %'s for italy so i thought i would ask

 

[dave_blue12]

Before ones in the 2,500 that they infected and ones in the next the 6,250 and the ones in the 15,625 who followed them.

So where's your peak in that lot? in the first batch? No, the peak is later, only higher.

They don't get it.

There may only be mild cases in the initial infection whereby no one goes to hospital but they then infect others. No way of knowing where the peak is.

We can only talk about a peak in relation to the lockdown as people should have stopped infecting each other.

 

[worsleyweb]

91% this morning

91%???

Am i missing something?

 

[squirtyflower]

91% this morning

Actually, scrub that, it’s currently running at 93% since the latest figures

 

[domalino]

At least someone is enjoying the time in isolation.

 

[squirtyflower]

91%???

Am i missing something?

Yes an additional 2%, it’s gone up.

 

[domalino]

91% this morning

91%???

Am i missing something?

Actually, scrub that, it’s currently running at 93% since the latest figures

Yes an additional 2%, it’s gone up.

I'm pretty sure the death rate isn't 93%.

 

[domalino]

They don't get it.

There may only be mild cases in the initial infection whereby no one goes to hospital but they then infect others. No way of knowing where the peak is.

We can only talk about a peak in relation to the lockdown as people should have stopped infecting each other.

No see that's not possible.

You can't infect 1000 people who are all asymptomatic.

 

[domalino]

Before ones in the 2,500 that they infected and ones in the next the 6,250 and the ones in the 15,625 who followed them.

So where's your peak in that lot? in the first batch? No, the peak is later, only higher.

The spike in deaths is the day that 10 people from the 1,000 die, 19 days after infection.