Player Pay Cuts during Crisis

Everyone moaning about players and Daniel Levy getting his money he earned.

Spurs owner just took delivery on his THIRD superyacht.

people moaning at the wrong people.
 
I'm no Tory and I have no time for politicians but in the current situation I think the Gov putting pressure on clubs & players to contribute to protecting the economy is fully justified.

The economic disaster which will follow the public health distaster is going to be massive. Governments have powers to take measures to effectively nationalise the economy (this is already happening). In this case the Government & Taxpayers are one and the same. If people earn money in this country and happen to be doing it when the apocalypse happens then its on everyone to do what they can.

I think the various pronouncements are an indirect message to the football industry, voluntarily cough up and help or don't be surprised i measures get enforced. This situation isn't going away overnight and we are not even close to the worst of it yet.
it is ok by me if they ask all of football including the super rich execs at the fa,uefa and the like of the burk at the Players union,the prem chief ,the likes of sky /bt pundits who are millionares,managers,i don't like the pressure on players to solve the problem,al of the above or none,let them donate what they want to who they want,our foreign players are doing things for their own countries which is fair enough,they are paying a ton of tax here
 
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I'm no Tory and I have no time for politicians but in the current situation I think the Gov putting pressure on clubs & players to contribute to protecting the economy is fully justified.

The economic disaster which will follow the public health distaster is going to be massive. Governments have powers to take measures to effectively nationalise the economy (this is already happening). In this case the Government & Taxpayers are one and the same. If people earn money in this country and happen to be doing it when the apocalypse happens then its on everyone to do what they can.

I think the various pronouncements are an indirect message to the football industry, voluntarily cough up and help or don't be surprised i measures get enforced. This situation isn't going away overnight and we are not even close to the worst of it yet.
Will the same government also go after actors, pop stars, golfers, tennis players or is this strictly limited to footballers?
 
Will the same government also go after actors, pop stars, golfers, tennis players or is this strictly limited to footballers?

Doesn’t forget the hedge fund managers, them with the offshore bank accounts and I forgot when was the last time the queen gave out and her parasitic entourage. We’re all in this together my arse. Haves and fucking have nots, and the have nots digging deep for the NHS and not getting tested ffs.

Typical Tory government when are the people in this country going to wake up and see this shower for what they truly are. Let’s get the footballers to contribute, then we’re seen to be going after the real money people who can afford a drop, yes they can afford it along with that gambling drunkard head and fucktard of the PFA. We’ve only had four months to prepare now my pals brother in law is dying in a hospital from it along with my daughters friends great auntie who died yesterday.

They saw what was happening in Italy and did fuck all and were still unprepared, flattening the curve, this is mass genocide and yet this government knew it, they will come out smelling of roses in this shit storm, PL football is finished and you know what fuck it, it’s shameful, I haven’t got enough vitriolic terms to express of it and what’s been and is happening in this country, along with this virus, money is the root of this whole fucking horrible situation we’re all in.
 
The only reason footballers should take a pay cut is to pay the wages of non-playing staff or the football world if the clubs cannot facilitate this themselves.

They already pay too much in taxes to contribute to the NHS and the country as a whole.

Footballers get a raw deal all the time, they are the main products of a multi-billion pound entertainment service, why are Ed Sheeran or Brad Pitt never criticised in the same way?
 
Not sure why players are so much in focus, while we have tons of very rich business owners who fired loads of workers, could close their businesses tomorrow and live very rich life or three and haven't contributed anything but just asking from governments.

Why would players cut their wages to pay the staff instead of very, very rich club owners?
 
Yes, Branson is looking for £Billions to prop up his airline while he sits on his own pile. personally I think morally anyone who has the means should be contributing to the national effort.
He doesn't own Virgin Atlantic "his airline" though, its 49% owned by Delta Airlines, and 31% by Air France/KLM.
 
If non playing staff have taken a cut then of course players should take the cut too.
The cut should effect all employee's
 
Will the same government also go after actors, pop stars, golfers, tennis players or is this strictly limited to footballers?
It's limited to whoever they can get the most publicity by criticizing, and who's least likely to fund their reelection, I would guess. To be fair to other sports people like golfers and tennis players, I don't think they're usually salaried, so they probably lose money simply by not being able to play. Nor are they likely to be claiming government aid to pay lower-paid staff. And that's the real issue here. If Sheikh Mansour puts his own money in to cover the lost income (no doubt UEFA would oppose such a heinous act) then it's none of the government's business whether or not our players take a pay cut. But if the club starts to claim handouts from the government, then it's only right that their highest-paid staff do their bit too.

But yeah, it's curious that no-one from the government seems to have criticised companies like British Airways who have given their pilots a 50% pay cut and 2 weeks unpaid leave while their CEO (and presumably the rest of management) remains on full pay. He actually did take a 100% pay cut in the end, but this only happened after media criticism, not criticism from anyone in the government, who seem to be far more careful about which people they publicly attack. John McDonnell (surprise, surprise) seems to be the only high-profile politician to have publicly attacked CEOs for not taking a pay cut in this time.
 
It's limited to whoever they can get the most publicity by criticizing, and who's least likely to fund their reelection, I would guess. To be fair to other sports people like golfers and tennis players, I don't think they're usually salaried, so they probably lose money simply by not being able to play. Nor are they likely to be claiming government aid to pay lower-paid staff. And that's the real issue here. If Sheikh Mansour puts his own money in to cover the lost income (no doubt UEFA would oppose such a heinous act) then it's none of the government's business whether or not our players take a pay cut. But if the club starts to claim handouts from the government, then it's only right that their highest-paid staff do their bit too.

But yeah, it's curious that no-one from the government seems to have criticised companies like British Airways who have given their pilots a 50% pay cut and 2 weeks unpaid leave while their CEO (and presumably the rest of management) remains on full pay. He actually did take a 100% pay cut in the end, but this only happened after media criticism, not criticism from anyone in the government, who seem to be far more careful about which people they publicly attack. John McDonnell (surprise, surprise) seems to be the only high-profile politician to have publicly attacked CEOs for not taking a pay cut in this time.
You mean golfers like Tiger Woods who was on something in the region of £50m a year before he even swung a club?
 
You mean golfers like Tiger Woods who was on something in the region of £50m a year before he even swung a club?
Not as a salary though. If he's freelance, he'll lose money anyway and won't be entitled to a payout from government. If he has staff (which I assume he does) and tries to claim government assistance to keep paying them when he could easily afford to cover them for a few months, then by all means tell him he's a prick.
 
Not as a salary though. If he's freelance, he'll lose money anyway and won't be entitled to a payout from government. If he has staff (which I assume he does) and tries to claim government assistance to keep paying them when he could easily afford to cover them for a few months, then by all means tell him he's a prick.
Tiger woods was on a massive retainer (reported as £50m) from Nike, he also has other sponsors such as Tag Heur paying him millions more
 
I find it amusing that the same people who want us held to ransom and dictated to by the unions and a return to the blackouts and destruction of British business now complain because a union for rich people protects its members interests.

We must be dictated to by unions, but only those with wealthy, faux communist leaders who skim off the top at the expense of their poor workers and shut down the country on a whim.
 
Just struck me as Hancock deflecting from the fact that they have made a proper fuck up of this whole situation from the off. What better way to do it than talk about footballers and how much they are earning? Not much gets Daily Mail reading twats quite as annoyed as premier league footballers' wages.
 
It's limited to whoever they can get the most publicity by criticizing, and who's least likely to fund their reelection, I would guess. To be fair to other sports people like golfers and tennis players, I don't think they're usually salaried, so they probably lose money simply by not being able to play. Nor are they likely to be claiming government aid to pay lower-paid staff. And that's the real issue here. If Sheikh Mansour puts his own money in to cover the lost income (no doubt UEFA would oppose such a heinous act) then it's none of the government's business whether or not our players take a pay cut. But if the club starts to claim handouts from the government, then it's only right that their highest-paid staff do their bit too.

But yeah, it's curious that no-one from the government seems to have criticised companies like British Airways who have given their pilots a 50% pay cut and 2 weeks unpaid leave while their CEO (and presumably the rest of management) remains on full pay. He actually did take a 100% pay cut in the end, but this only happened after media criticism, not criticism from anyone in the government, who seem to be far more careful about which people they publicly attack. John McDonnell (surprise, surprise) seems to be the only high-profile politician to have publicly attacked CEOs for not taking a pay cut in this time.

I think the point you made about Clubs taking Government money is the key issue.
I also agree with some of the other posts which make the point about other people/industries.
My view is any high net worth individual should be making a contribution which is significant in value, but NOT at a level to permanently damage lifestyle. There are many many individuals in this situation that could contribute to the national effort.

What makes football slightly different is that non playing staff are part of football clubs in quite high numbers. If the club can't directly afford to support these workers (which is what Spurs & Newcastle in particular are indicating by furloughing staff) then player & director contributions should be the next step, and they should not be maintaining player/director remuneration while at the same time passing the non playing staff payment problem to the Government & Taxpayer (i.e. us). I think this is what makes football a special case and that is why some action needs to be taken.

The other point I'd like to make is this... just because we are fortunate to have an owner that can afford to support the club & players through this crisis, it doesn't mean SM should have to pick up the bill for this. Morally the players do need to chip in in my opinion.
 
Doesn’t matter. People just jumping to blame him. Facts be damned.

As of Dec 2019 Virgin Group owned 51% of VA, Delta owned 49%

There was a deal in place to sell 31% to Air France but it didn't happen, mainly due to price but possibly because of Brexit.

Its unclear exactly how much of Virgin Group Richard Branson personally owns due to complex structure but he certainly exerts control as a PSC (Person of Significan Control).

These are the facts, so why is Branson the front man asking the British Gov for a huge bale out, Delta don't seem to be asking the US Government for a similar sum? American Airlines are...
 

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