Player Pay Cuts during Crisis

[kaz7]

@karen7 Well I'd expect nothing from the PFA tbh, I'm really uncomfortable with the idea that the Gov & ultimately us as taxpayers will pick up the bill for workers either supported in jobs or who have lost jobs due to this. In the PL player wages are 50-78% of turnover. Its a crazy percentage and football is unique in that characteristic.

I am not happy at the three clubs who are going the furlogh route,clubs have plenty of money to sort this out themselves,typical of the PFA to wake up at the sound of money but not to support raz from racist abuse

 

[kaz7]

This is not strictly true. They are probably paying the contract companies, but they are not paying their staff. A work colleague's daughter who works for the company who run the catering is not being paid.

Ah i will have to have another read of that thread

 

[bewildered]

I am not happy at the three clubs who are going the furlogh route,clubs have plenty of money to sort this out themselves,typical of the PFA to wake up at the sound of money but not to support raz from racist abuse

Yep, its a disgrace, lets hope people remember some of this when things recover. The PFA is a joke organisation, has been for years.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

Maybe I'm in a minority here, but I don't see why the players who are contracted to the club should take it on themselves to take a pay cut, that's why they have contracts, its just like any other line of work.

 

[bewildered]

This is not strictly true. They are probably paying the contract companies, but they are not paying their staff. A work colleague's daughter who works for the company who run the catering is not being paid.

This is exactly the sort of murky water that will emerge unfortunately. A PL football club SHOULD be able to take all staff and subcontract workers onto the books for the duration of the crisis, this would easily be paid for by offestting players wages. There should be no need for job losses or Gov bale outs within the entire professional pyramid.

 

[DJBusinesscake]

I have a feeling that football as a whole will be tarnished some what after all this. Especially us City fans, weve been fucked by UEFA not backed up by the FA, fucked over by the top 10 in the prem. Then football as a whole has been put into perspective by this horrible covid 19 situation. Everything is starting tontake its toll on me.

 

[bewildered]

Maybe I'm in a minority here, but I don't see why the players who are contracted to the club should take it on themselves to take a pay cut, that's why they have contracts, its just like any other line of work.

I think its simple mate, they (and some others can afford it with no effect on their lifestyles) pretty much no-one else can. Contracts mean nothing at a time like this. No job is safe, not mine or yours. At the moment just theirs and that can't be right.

 

[TCIB]

It is a shame it has taken this global catastrophe to shake the publics collective apathetic mindset held about players and the obscene amounts they earn. That goes for twats like Gordon Taylor the bent greedy sack of shit to and shitbags like Riaola who do sod all in the grand scheme of things. It has been a source of constant displeasure of mine seeing the vast amounts of cash in the game go to a very limited few.

I always think how good would public fitness areas be if half the cash in football was put directly back into the community. Public pools closing and such. They should be free to have grand ideas of expanding and getting people involved in activities not worried if they can pay the pool heating costs for the week. It has always pissed me off with no abatement.

Hundreds of thousands of pounds a week is inexcusable imo no matter how you cut it. If everyone on earth had a good standard or living then fair enough but that is not reality sadly. The argument that they bring in much more is moot. The excess could build a hospital or a health club etc for all to enjoy. I am proud City are one of the better clubs for this.

Bankers etc, the argument they generate wealth, well why the hell are there food banks then? it is utter poppycock and anyone defending it should have a less myopic view. Wealth is not distrubuted evenly enough.

Well if we don't pay them x they will go to y company. Then ban y company from offering over a certain amount, flout the rules, jail the boss shut the company down. Algorithms and AI could run stocks and shares now anyway with few areas that need the nuance of human interaction. No one needs a million quid bonus for shuffling cash about in the markets.

If a company saw its arse and said right ill move out the country, fine but we will make sure every person on earth knows you and your decisions here and will will lobby hard so nobody does business with you. You just watch how many CEO's are willing to take on that fight, very few i bet.

There in lies the core of the issue, it would take a huge effort collectively by everyone to adjust capitalism to keep wealth distributed a but wider. The machine of capitalism is hard to stop. Possibly inevitable due to human nature?

I don't feel players should have to take a cut etc i just don't think we should have come to this point in the first place.

 

[DontLookBackInAnger]

I think its simple mate, they (and some others can afford it with no effect on their lifestyles) pretty much no-one else can. Contracts mean nothing at a time like this. No job is safe, not mine or yours. At the moment just theirs and that can't be right.

I don't know about your line of work, but in mine I'm not a dodgy tackle from losing my career every time I go to work(I'm not saying footballers have a hard life my point is every role has instability thats just life), as soon as we say contracts mean nothing then as a society we are fucked. That's not to say I don't think footballers perhaps should use their wealth in times like these proactively, but it's their money

 

[carlosthejackal]

Basically it’s about moral decency , nothing more and nothing less .