On the Russian thing which is not the thread topic they attacked a load of drunk Dad's having a sing song and arrived mysteriously on a state sponsored plane. It was political flexing of muscle prior to the world cup in my opinion.
Exactly. Banning orders and the death of hooliganism in this country bar the odd incident meant the England fans over there were just fans, old and young. There for a beer, sing song and to support the team. The Russians turned up 30 years too late and thought they had mullered the infamous and feared English hooligans when it was nothing of the sort.