COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Brightwell’s left peg]

I could criticise your defective comprehension skills if you'd like...

That’s better

 

[kaz7]

I have no idea how you shield the vulnerable in this scenario.

You can't now,we lost that moment early doors

 

[hgblue]

I have no idea how you shield the vulnerable in this scenario.

Shielding is already in place for those identified as being in the vulnerable groups, I presume this shielding could be extended whilst the virus spreads. I believe this is the policy in Sweden?

 

[inchy14]

One thing i will remember about this lockdown is the amount of people out exercising who are amazed at the amount of people out exercising.

To be fair, it’s the amount who have obviously never exercised before that were amazed at, let’s see where they all are when things get back to normal.

 

[SWP's back]

Possibly but I forgot to say it was about 40 years ago a few months after a heart attack when I was a few stone overweight so perhaps we could excuse the caution in my case by a professor of metabolism at MRI.
However he did say that unless you want to compete in athletics there is no point in exceeding 144 bpm because there is no metabolic improvement going above it. He mentioned keeping the 144 bpm at a minimum of 20 mins 3 times a week as ideal to kid the body it was at somewhere near optimum readiness 100 percent of the time.

Yeah coming back off a heart attack, that would make a great deal of sense. Glad you’re mended bud.

 

[Zubrman]

He's right though. Those things will all happen if society collapses; an unlikely but feasible outcome of a prolonged lockdown. The whole economy basically is a big fucking Ponzi scheme.

Memories! I fondly remember doing the big fucking Ponzi at Wembley 2011!

 

[M18CTID]

Hahaha, on our way back from having our run this morning we had the exact same conversation about cyclists, they were all over the fucking place and riding like completed bellends.

Add in all the other bellends who have suddenly taken it upon themselves to start walking their dogs. Our dog has been walked every single day for the past six and a half years (apart from when he was ill) and the amount of new faces I’ve seen out dog walking these past few weeks is nothing short of astonishing.

 

[kaz7]

England 336 total 18,420

Scotland 18 total 1,249

Wales 14 total 788

Ireland to come

Each area reports independently,hospital only figures

Dept of health total later

 

[blueparrot]

To be fair, it’s the amount who have obviously never exercised before that were amazed at, let’s see where they all are when things get back to normal.

Maybe they just did it at different times or in different places I used to go to the gym in my lunchtime and it was quite busy. Sometimes I’d go to the pool for a swim but not often because it was too busy.

 

[blueparrot]

England 336 total 18,420

Scotland 18 total 1,249

Wales 14 total 788

Ireland to come

Each area reports independently

Dept of health total later

65 in Scotland according to bbc Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-52329071

edit as you were it’s just corrected on there to 18. Thought it was high for a Sunday figure

 

[kaz7]

65 in Scotland according to bbc Scotland.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-52329071

It says this

The latest Scottish government figures reveal that 10,324 people have tested positive for coronavirus in Scotland, up 273 on yesterday.

A further 18 patients have died in hospital, taking the total under that measurement to 1,249 in Scotland.

1,735 patients are in hospital with suspected or confirmed Covid-19, a decrease of 13, with 133 being treated in intensive care, a decrease of eight

 

[blueparrot]

It says this

The latest Scottish government figures reveal that 10,324 people have tested positive for coronavirus in Scotland, up 273 on yesterday.

A further 18 patients have died in hospital, taking the total under that measurement to 1,249 in Scotland.

1,735 patients are in hospital with suspected or confirmed Covid-19, a decrease of 13, with 133 being treated in intensive care, a decrease of eight

Yes edited my post it said 65 then changed just after I posted.

 

[SWP's back]

because they have all watched the movie Contagion and that's how it played out.

But it took two years of lock down.

 

[SWP's back]

Volunteer anyone?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10....iW-2Ftd1iPgaa1CsV3zlJpvUxKWG1wnhRlHop4Gta5nTs

summary:
"Until an effective vaccine will be available, we propose an alternative approach, akin to avalanche control at ski resorts, a practice which intentionally triggers small avalanches in order to prevent a singular catastrophic one. Its main goal is to approach herd immunity faster than the current alternatives, with lower mortality rates and lower demand for critical health-care resources. According to this approach, individuals whose probability of developing serious health conditions is low (i.e. 20-49 years old with no comorbidities) will be offered the option to be voluntarily exposed to the virus under controlled supervision, and will then be issued 'immunity certificates' if they are confirmed to have developed SARS-CoV-2 antibodies."

I would tbh.

 

[inchy14]

Maybe they just did it at different times or in different places I used to go to the gym in my lunchtime and it was quite busy. Sometimes I’d go to the pool for a swim but not often because it was too busy.

Mate none of these were talking about use gyms unless it’s for the cafe!!

 

[Manc in London]

Yet London has seen the biggest fall in hospital and critical cases so must be doing something right

It is very quiet where I am (suburban Barnet, close to the border of Enfield). An increase in road traffic but I would suggest this primarily relates to retail. We have friends in a number of areas across London. Based on what they have told us, it seems to be East London is the busier area with other areas being quiet with few people around.

 

[DrBlueBob]

The queue at my local is a nightmare I've been here for 4 hours now!

You don't look quite how thought you might.

 

[BlueAnorak]

All the more need for openness and honesty.

https://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/news/statement-covid-19-and-the-basics-of-democratic-governance

Government should

• Show us (the public) what it is doing and thinking across the range of issues of concern
• Set out the ethical considerations that inform(ed) its judgements
• Explain how it has arrived at decisions (including taking advice from eg SAGE, MEAG), and not that it is just ‘following the science’
• Invite a broad range of perspectives into the room, including wider public representation
• Think ahead – consult and engage other civic interests

I would agree if ALL the press and broadcast mediah were not total shits who totally fail to deliver any form of intellectual rigour or honnesty:
- Zero analysis of the current situation.
- Zero cause and effect discussion.
- Zero discussion of alternatives.
- Zero balance.
- Total fucktardary.

 

[kaz7]

All the more need for openness and honesty.

https://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/news/statement-covid-19-and-the-basics-of-democratic-governance

Government should

• Show us (the public) what it is doing and thinking across the range of issues of concern
• Set out the ethical considerations that inform(ed) its judgements
• Explain how it has arrived at decisions (including taking advice from eg SAGE, MEAG), and not that it is just ‘following the science’
• Invite a broad range of perspectives into the room, including wider public representation
• Think ahead – consult and engage other civic interests

The average person won't understand what the scientists are saying,the scientists everywhere in the world are learning at the moment,the answers are there already but the media are not asking the right questions

People still can't get their heads round the fact that just because you are not ill does not mean you don't have it and are spreading it,until they accept that there is no chance of them understanding anything more complicated

 

[AlgarveBlu]

May be of interest to anyone looking at the post infection implications of covid (very little discussed so far on this). university in Porto is specifically undertaking on the effects of the virus on the brain, early stages but an area to keep an eye on.

https://www.portugalresident.com/co...rto-scientists-evaluate-effects-on-survivors/

just adding this article to the previous one from Porto University from medical findings from the Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan.

extract below - I suspect that CV19 will have a few parting gifts to leave us even after we have tamed/defeated.

Young and middle-aged people, barely sick with covid-19, are dying of stroke

Stroke surge
Reports of strokes in the young and middle-aged — not just at Mount Sinai, but also in many other hospitals in communities hit hard by the novel coronavirus — are the latest twist in our evolving understanding of the disease it causes. The numbers of those affected are small but nonetheless remarkable because they challenge how doctors understand the virus. Even as it has infected nearly 2.8 million people worldwide and killed about 195,000 as of Friday, its biological mechanisms continue to elude top scientific minds. Once thought to be a pathogen that primarily attacks the lungs, it has turned out to be a much more formidable foe — impacting nearly every major organ system in the body.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/