Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

purplenose said:
On what do you base that.

I honestly think this behind close doors idea would be a damp squib and a total failure with little or no interest shown by fans. As others have said it would be the death of nearly every club outside the premier league and quite possibly some in it.
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In my view without a safe and effective mass vaccination programme then mass gatherings will not be allowed. As a business football then must consider the vastly inferior alternative of playing the end of this season and next behind closed doors for the millions of fans around the world who never go to games anyway and those who need their gambling fix. But there are vast practical and moral issues involved and no TV deal to help the hundreds of lower League and non league clubs and their fans.
 
karen7 said:
You first then,it is a contact sport the debate begins and ends there,nobody else is allowed to touch anyone outside of their households ffs
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Dentists, hairdresser, masseuse, beautician, chiropractor, physio, security, tattooist, taxi, first aiders, chiropodist, weddings, funerals, christenings, pubs, concerts, football, rugby, netball, basketball, school sports, restaurants, airlines, holidays, all and many many more will get back to some kind of normal.

but we must never place football in any list, of get back to work. Ffs get real.
 
danielwood5 said:
I agree, with no fans there then for the players it's about as risky, or probably less so, than me goingbto my office job. The point I'm trying to make though is that the medical staff that would have to be present at these games/isolation camps could be put to much better use at this present time than staffing a football game. Even if things get back to normal in the next month or so then all the medical staff that have been working ridiculous hours over the last few months deserve a break, having to babysit god knows many teams at St George's Park or whatever neutral ground plan they're discussing today (is just the Premier League quarantining and playing at neutral venues or all levels of the football pyramid?) should be at the absolutely bottom of the list of things to get done when this is over.
Same with coppers, even if there's no fans in the grounds I suspect a significant amount of morons will turn up at stadiums anyway or go piling into each others homes for huge piss ups.
There's a real difference between reopening everything gradually while maintaining some form of caution and social distancing and to just saying 'well if it's safe for me to work, it's safe for everyone'. Mitigating risk doesn't work like that and it's also a fact that we will need to be strategic about the resources we have. That's why I think the entertainment industry will be the very last to be reopened in any significant way as the resources needed for even behind closed doors games are needed more urgently elsewhere.
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If just for the hell of it,
A million people are allowed back to work, the support required to transport, protect, cater, first aid, incidents causing emergency help would be far greater than a few footballers hobbling off a pitch and getting a scan at the local private hospital. I can’t get the problem with it, I’m not arsed either way. I just don’t get the football must be last scenario. If it’s allowed it’s allowed, so what.
 
i8rags said:
If just for the hell of it,
A million people are allowed back to work, the support required to transport, protect, cater, first aid, incidents causing emergency help would be far greater than a few footballers hobbling off a pitch and getting a scan at the local private hospital. I can’t get the problem with it, I’m not arsed either way. I just don’t get the football must be last scenario. If it’s allowed it’s allowed, so what.
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Yep if it’s allowed it’s allowed so why are fans not able to go?
 
karen7 said:
Must be a dipper


Unnamed #PL player: "Most of the players are keen to get the season finished. There’s a view that, as long as we are tested regularly, then it shouldn’t be a problem. You would be surprised at how laid-back about it a lot of the players are." [via
@MailSport

Plans on the safe return to football are set to be finalised at a cross-sport meeting with the Government on Wednesday. Talks will see proposals over training and the restart of the #PL, should Westminster allow, put together for essential feedback from PL players.
@MailSport
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So the players are 'keen' to get back into a situation that is potentially dangerous to them and their families plus others involved and contravenes the social distancing rules applicable to the rest of the population?
And they are 'keen' to get back to an extremely heavy workload which is meaningless to so many and then with hardly a break get into another heavy workload. No holidays with their families, lounging around at home passing time is not the same.
I don't buy that at all.
 
i8rags said:
Lots of things will be back, but not normal.
Think it’s pretty obvious myself. If you need further clarification I’d ask myself is watching a job.
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Yep a lot jobs will be back with social distancing and mask wearing when you on a football pitch with 22 players plays everything around that it’s ideal the ideal environment to get this virus. If there was a test that was 100% accurate I’d say test everyone Daily and it be safe for football until then football should be just put on the back burner.
 
waspish said:
Yep a lot jobs will be back with social distancing and mask wearing when you on a football pitch with 22 players plays everything around that it’s ideal the ideal environment to get this virus. If there was a test that was 100% accurate I’d say test everyone Daily and it be safe for football until then football should be just put on the back burner.
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Agree totally
 
There are reports coming out of Israel that they have developed a key component of a vaccine. I heard this last night and posted it and expected to wake up to the news everywhere but it's not on the BBC. I am wondering if it's not true?

Here's a link from NY Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/reuters/202...ters-health-coronavirus-israel-treatment.html

There's also this in Nature from what looks like Chinese researchers on the same lines. I suspect China got their first and it has prompted the Israelis to make the claim.

Paper in Nature from what looks like Chinese researchers:

https://rdcu.be/b3WPD

Edit: Those researchers are based out of Utrecht Uni: Netherlands.
 
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purplenose said:
On what do you base that.

I honestly think this behind close doors idea would be a damp squib and a total failure with little or no interest shown by fans. As others have said it would be the death of nearly every club outside the premier league and quite possibly some in it.
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Based on this crisis isn’t going anywhere for a long time.I’d amazed if this is the last lockdown and there isn’t a 2nd and 3rd wave of this virus over the few months. You can’t suddenly allow 50000 people to go to football matches all over the country. Yes behind closed doors will be shit but it will still get decent viewing figures especially as there won’t be a great deal else to do and most the lost gate receipts will be made up by tv showing every game which will obviously be sold across the world.

I agree that it will be almost impossible for the majority of clubs outside the the Premier League but frankly they won’t give a shit because as we know it’s all about money. The only way they could survive is if the Premier League bail them out. Let’s face it though we live in a rich country that has struggled to supply enough health equipment to doctors and nurses. Without getting too deep that rather sums up the imbalance of the country and when viewed like that smaller football clubs have very little hope of being looked after.
 
If they decide to go with next season behind close doors, then it it is what it is.
But don't come Xmas time if it's safe let's have to go through the charade of trying to get fans back in and fuck up another season.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
We will restart the league

they will get their 6 points and all of a sudden Players within Their squad will come out with he virus resulting in the league being called off
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Might be right but we are a few weeks away from even someone saying they're going going to relax the lockdown conditions sufficiently for players to train safely. We will then have to wait for some of our squad to fly in and go through a quarantine period, perhaps they will have speedy boarding tickets and get through these checks quicker? Then we will have the farce of trying to train, get fit, practice match drills, tactics, so allow another 3 or 4 weeks for this, come July i would think we'lll have enough evidence of second waves and third waves happening so the virus will spread through the player squads or cause enough restrictions to knock it on the head. Who knows?
 
Assuming everything is safe - if they want to play behind closed doors for a year or so, scrap VAR and have 5 subs then if that’s what it takes to get it going again then that’s what it takes

But it must start as a new season. Competition rules and venues/circumstances cannot be rewritten 2/3rds through a season. There is no way any of the bottom 10 will sign up for this and nor should they

In regards going myself, I don’t think I’ll be comfortable queuing up or being on the concourse for quite some time. More likely that I’ll watch Altrincham for a few months and see how it all pans out
 
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