Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

Marvin said:
But whether football plays or not is not going to impact the general population. The US death forecast has just been doubled overnight because of the wider opening up of states. Stuff like opening schools, shops, factories. Increasing contact on tubes, trains etc is what impacts the infection rate. And there is little alternative. You can't hold it off forever or institutions like the health service, banking systems and the architecture of the system will stop functioning.

The quality of our lives matter. Football, society, economy, culture. You can't just think that if you sit with your mask on inside your house for 12 months that life in the outside world will continue. We have to find a way of coping with it.

Hopefully the way out will be a vaccine but this could we with us for a very long time. And all the things you value in your life have to be conserved and protected.
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not uplifting
 
Return of the Mac said:
Marvin, from your previous posts I see that you are trying to convince everyone that has an opinion that we should start up again using whatever hair brained scheme the press are touting. What is you agenda ....as whatevr they decide will not be to the integrity of the league that started so why not agree to null and void it immediately and sort out contracts, fitness, form, isolation of certain players and overall safety and look to start a new season when it makes sense ? I dont see what your agenda is to keep wanting it to start as soon as possible ?
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No. I am keeping an open mind on it. If it's not safe to play football, it's not safe but I don't have a problem with football trying to find a solution because the financial penalties clubs will face are huge. No matchday income for a season. Slashed broadcasting incomes? That's a question mark. I'm not bothered about the Premier League re excitement, but I really would like to see the CL games. The Premier League is awkward because of the sheer amount of games left to play.

The lockdowns will be lifted in June across wide parts of society, and football is low risk in that it doesn't affect the wider infection rate.

Some people just can't see beyond the mantra stay at home,save lives and will cling to it even when it changes.
 
Marvin said:
But whether football plays or not is not going to impact the general population. The US death forecast has just been doubled overnight because of the wider opening up of states. Stuff like opening schools, shops, factories. Increasing contact on tubes, trains etc is what impacts the infection rate. And there is little alternative. You can't hold it off forever or institutions like the health service, banking systems and the architecture of the system will stop functioning.

The quality of our lives matter. Football, society, economy, culture. You can't just think that if you sit with your mask on inside your house for 12 months that life in the outside world will continue. We have to find a way of coping with it.

Hopefully the way out will be a vaccine but this could we with us for a very long time. And all the things you value in your life have to be conserved and protected.
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Tell that to the large amount of black players and other ethnicity players who are a large risk factor for the illness,just be upfront marvin
 
karen7 said:
I am not going to sign up but from what I can see that is great,it would take a brave /stupid man to disregard that and say football games can restart
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This is the main points
  • Approving guidelines that still carry risk of death
  • Liability, insurance and testing for players, staff and their families
  • Possible transmission via sweat and goalkeeper gloves
  • Suspicions that some clubs are already ignoring guidelines
  • Increased risk for black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) groups
  • Ability of emergency services to attend training ground incidents
 
waspish said:
I’d postponed it not arsed about football while this virus around if clubs go under so be it they'll be back people won’t.
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The irony of a Dipper football manager stating "Some people think football is a matter of life and death ,i dont like that attitude i can assure them it is much more serious than that".
Its about time the Dippers showed an ounce of decency and conceded the title ,unprecedented events have snookered them , its not there year , maybe next year

LOL THIRTY YEARS

Its May 2020 and Manchester City are still Premier League Champions.
 
Wanderingwolf said:
This is the main points
  • Approving guidelines that still carry risk of death
  • Liability, insurance and testing for players, staff and their families
  • Possible transmission via sweat and goalkeeper gloves
  • Suspicions that some clubs are already ignoring guidelines
  • Increased risk for black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) groups
  • Ability of emergency services to attend training ground incidents
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Thanks,should be enough hopefully
 
Wanderingwolf said:
This is the main points
  • Approving guidelines that still carry risk of death
  • Liability, insurance and testing for players, staff and their families
  • Possible transmission via sweat and goalkeeper gloves
  • Suspicions that some clubs are already ignoring guidelines
  • Increased risk for black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) groups
  • Ability of emergency services to attend training ground incidents
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Good for them, absolutely spot on, and obvious to all but the idiots running football.
 
karen7 said:
Tell that to the large amount of black players and other ethnicity players who are a large risk factor for the illness,just be upfront marvin
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Are you arguing that black players are going to be more susceptible? The overwhelming reason why black and Asian people have borne the brunt of the virus is because of the social position they find themselves in. i.e. they work disproportionately in more exposed positions.

There maybe a small genetic factor. There's certainly a medical factor re age and genders (ACE2 expression) but I haven't come across anything yet to suggest that medically black and Asian footballers would be more predisposed to infection that white players.
 
cleavers said:
The only thing I really value in my life right now, is exactly that "my life", so f*ck football.
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Well in 6 months time you might think differently. You are still on here too so I know that's not entirely true. Your life is more than your health - even now.

Don't you have hopes and ambitions for the future?
 
Marvin, i dont think you are on the same wavelength as most people. It is just a sport, a pastime and is irrelevant in the bigger picture. If it wasnt for money, the powers that be wouldnt give a toss, ie non-league. It can come back when there is a vaccine, and even then, when everyone else has been given the injection. 6 months, a year, who cares?
 
all i can say is their must be a hell of a lot of in house cash at the FA riding on liverpool to seal this, im not talking of a fiver here and their more likely millions at good odds, no brainer really when you see how VAR has helped them along, put the two together and it starts to come clear, the only thing they didnt bank on was corona
 
Marvin said:
Are you arguing that black players are going to be more susceptible? The overwhelming reason why black and Asian people have borne the brunt of the virus is because of the social position they find themselves in. i.e. they work disproportionately in more exposed positions.

There maybe a small genetic factor. There's certainly a medical factor re age and genders (ACE2 expression) but I haven't come across anything yet to suggest that medically black and Asian footballers would be more predisposed to infection that white players.
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there is a genetic factor,you need to read more,they are people in a high risk catagory
 
johnnytapia said:
That¨s also the noise coming from the Local Authority. It is also what my union has been told. Absolutely insane to reopen schools. The last place any parent would want to put their child is in with other children who may have no idea about social isolation. It will be impossible for staff to control. I have been in school every day during lockdown and speak from the experience of trying to keep very small numbers apart. Absolute recipe for disaster and will gain nothing other than a bit of political kudos.
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Thats my worry tbh. I know he would be better off in school education wise. But doing so puts our family a little bit more at risk.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
The irony of a Dipper football manager stating "Some people think football is a matter of life and death ,i dont like that attitude i can assure them it is much more serious than that".
Its about time the Dippers showed an ounce of decency and conceded the title ,unprecedented events have snookered them , its not there year , maybe next year

LOL THIRTY YEARS

Its May 2020 and Manchester City are still Premier League Champions.
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ah well,,,,next year ay lah
 
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