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robbieh said:
I understand. I wasn't suggesting that NZ was going to have 2000 dead or whatever figure you think would be comparable, but 21 suggests they saw the problem and reacted.
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They did.
I'm just thinking about my granddaughter's plans for this crisis. Unicorns, dancing and Frozen videos all round
 
BlueAnorak said:
30,000 out of a population of 66.65 is 0.045%.
Fuck all in the great scheme of things but any death is a lot for their friends and family to take.
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Why is anyone bothered when we take part in wars then or when planes crash? Why bother with road safety when just 1500 get killed on the roads each year. Is all that just fuck all in the scheme of things?
 
SilverFox2 said:
Perhaps I phrased my uncertainty incorrectly.
Some people are carriers of the virus without showing symptoms. Others have had the virus but recovered.
Are both these group examples infection sources to all they contact?
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Yes, if they have picked up the virus by contact.
 
johnmc said:
What?? So testing is down but new cases are up? Fuck me
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Maybe not, when we had 120,000 test it included the 40,000 posted out if those are being returned it may be results from them and many more than todays 69,000 tests. Best not to make too much of them numbers, impossible to tell really from raw figures.
 
karen7 said:
This gets tricky now,the ones who have had it,like me,are assumed to have some immunity but that is not confirmed and there is no test in the world in use specific enough that a Dr can say to a patient that you won't get it again,if we can get again then we can pass it into someone else again
Those without symptoms are passing it on yes
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Thanks Karen because as time goes on and more people are infected but recover or become carriers the risk to the vulnerable increases at the very time any lockdown measures are being eased.
Many elderly have already died so I can only see worse figures involving the vulnerable. If they cannot be protected now what chance do they have for the pre vaccine time?
 
goatersnipple said:
Fuck all in the great scheme of things???.

30 fucking thousand people ....

If that's fuck all I like to know what you consider a lot.
Or a significant ammount
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0.25% of the population or about 166,000 is a lot.
What has been expected as a minimum in a major pandemic.
Thank goodness Covid-19 hasn't been as bad as it could be, as we'd be in a right state.
 
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8 days since we became aware of the problem in care homes and yet every resident and member of staff has yet to be tested.
 
The UK was for a while tracking Italy 2 weeks in front and Spain 1 week in front

The last time Spain had a day like the UK did today was April 10th.
Italy 6th April.

Any suggestions why the UK is taking longer to get to grips with this.
 
BlueAnorak said:
0.25% of the population or about 166,000 is a lot.
What has been expected in a major pandemic.
Thank goodness Covid-19 hasn't been as bad as it could be, as we'd be in a right state.
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I said at the very outset I expected it to kill 100,000 people in the UK and for quite a while I was thinking that was wrong and wildly too pessimistic. But honestly as time goes by I am beginning to think I may have been right all along. I suspect we are at 40,000 or 50,000 already if everyone is ultimately counted, and we haven't finished wave 1 yet. I wonder what the toll will be by the end of 2021? I would not be remotely surprised if it's 100,000.
 
robbieh said:
The UK was for a while tracking Italy 2 weeks in front and Spain 1 week in front

The last time Spain had a day like the UK did today was April 10th.
Italy 6th April.

Any suggestions why the UK is taking longer to get to grips with this.
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Remember that twat who got stuck on a zip wire whilst waving a couple of union jack flags around?
 
Chippy_boy said:
I said at the very outset I expected it to kill 100,000 people in the UK and for quite a while I was thinking that was wrong and wildly too pessimistic. But honestly as time goes by I am beginning to think I may have been right all along. I suspect we are at 40,000 or 50,000 already if everyone is ultimately counted, and we haven't finished wave 1 yet. I wonder what the toll will be by the end of 2021? I would not be remotely surprised if it's 100,000.
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End of 2021....?

It'll be 100,000 by end of November.
 
robbieh said:
The UK was for a while tracking Italy 2 weeks in front and Spain 1 week in front

The last time Spain had a day like the UK did today was April 10th.
Italy 6th April.

Any suggestions why the UK is taking longer to get to grips with this.
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The civil service and health service management is incompetent. I've worked with them to try and deliver IT solutions and I know its true. It is too centralised to be tactically and strategically agile.
It wouldn't matter who was in power they wouldn't deliver.
That is why I recommend flattening the management structure and deploying the army to monitor performance on day 1.
 
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