Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

mexico1970 said:
Football is driven by the fans, without fans is an empty soulless non event. Even if clubs fold peoples health comes first. Football just isn't that important right now IMO.
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As someone mentioned on here a while back, playing bcd used to be a punishment for violation, now it has become the saviour for Marv and the PL et al
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
but to introduce those things IS to take away its integrity, you are changing the "rules" and processes of the game. What i suggested changes nothing...therefore no loss of integrity
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True, but anyone advocating getting rid of the joy sucking, fury inducing, interminably time consuming,
abortion that is VAR,and doing it ASAP, is OK in my book.
 
Marvin said:
You know full well that we can't have full stadia. So if you want equal conditions throughout a season you are effectively saying no football a year. That will be the end of many clubs. Can't see the government paying players.
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Are football clubs exempt from going under? I see plenty of other industries likely to do the same but I dont see you pandering to their needs.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
but to introduce those things IS to take away its integrity, you are changing the "rules" and processes of the game. What i suggested changes nothing...therefore no loss of integrity
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So 4 or 5 month break which allows some players to recharge their batteries just as their were running out of steam. Or teams that were coming into form now have players that arent match fit. That in my eyes loses the integrity of the league, let alone the other points.
 
BillCarlisle Ex-Manchester said:
That's brilliant isn't it ? Talk about burying heads in the sand & maybe it will all go away. Whatever happens, their glorious long awaited title win either won't happen or will be tainted by the way the PL have handled the situation. Personally I couldn't care less now whether they are awarded it or not. I'm more bothered about the safety of players & all the other people who would be involved with training & staging of matches.
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Danger to those under the age of 45 is minimal. It’s a very selective disease.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
The sensible suggestion being the one er, suggested...in my opinion of course.....pause the season, and resume it as and when safe to do so.....could easily be the end of the year.

So if next season is cancelled or postponed, there are essentially not as many consequences.....possibly just dont have a 20/21 season
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I gave you the sensible solution weeks ago

Vic said:
I'm pencilling in tomorrow's game (Burnley home) for the same weekend next year. Saves all the Liverpool howls if we just suspend this season for 12 months.....

If by the autumn things are looking up, we could find a new sponsor for a special interim competition. The Abu Dhabi Stuff You Cup.
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AlexWilliamsGloves said:
The sensible suggestion being the one er, suggested...in my opinion of course.....pause the season, and resume it as and when safe to do so.....could easily be the end of the year.

So if next season is cancelled or postponed, there are essentially not as many consequences.....possibly just dont have a 20/21 season
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what about next years money? they want that to, they cant cancel next season so thay have 11 weeks to complete this or its over, the best thing would be to come to part setlement with the sponsors for the uncompleted season then negotiate next seasons deal all be it behind closed doors but the income will be a fraction of what they normaly get because its not atractive
 
RightTurnClyde said:
A fair few similar views to the majority here it would seem with a slight sprinkling of a vocal, contrary minority insisting that football must continue. To name a few...

Arsenal - https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/thr...tball-aiming-for-june-6-return.34136/page-178

Villa - https://www.villatalk.com/topic/18895-premier-league-2019-2020-thread/page/551/

Bournemouth - https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfoot...ulation-on-how-this-season-ends.11279/page-82

Brighton - https://www.northstandchat.com/show...-League-attempts-to-finish-the-season/page254

West Ham - https://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=177540&start=820

Spurs - https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/in...ue-officially-postponed-until.141877/page-107

Chelsea - https://www.theshedend.com/topic/33741-how-to-end-this-season/page/19/#comments

Wolves - https://www.wolvesforum.co.uk/showthread.php?36245-Wolves-Covid-19/page17
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I think there is a split between matchgoing and armchair fans. The armchair fans plus the media (who have a self-interest) are lobbying for football to return behind closed doors. Matchgoers are more critical. I am probably somewhere in the middle. There will come a time when it is safe for games to happen and at that point I'll probably watch City (even behind closed doors). But I am not going back to SKY or BT so it will have to be a dodgy stream or not at all.
 
marco said:
just putting liverpool aside for the moment why are the FA so desperate for this to be completed
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You can't discuss one without the other.

Genuinely. They need to sell the image of the league being won, the title lifted, overseas.
 
Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
In terms of those seriously affected by it then. Many of the over 45s are in roles where social distancing can be practised
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I agree that social distancing by the likes of Pep & Kiddo etc could be practised but is it really worth the risk at this stage ? As we all know, even a young player could be very ill with Covid. Not least the risk of a player unknowingly picking it up & taking the virus home. Surely we should be further down the line than 1st June before training re-starts. The idea of re-starting so soon all seems a bit rushed to me and I honestly can't see it happening before we really have a lid on it.
 
Marvin said:
City fans seem obsessed with Liverpool now. Completely negative emotion. City can still win things and although we can't be there, it will still be an achievement by the players who we still have a connection with because the break is temporary.

This thread is depressing. Every time I open it, there's another football fan hating on the game that has given us so much pleasure. Self-harm. Remember the Aguero 93:20 moment, and Yaya's goals at Wembley.

I am told football has shown its greed. Hello. The profit motive has run society ever since the factory owners displaced the land-owners. Football is no more capital and labour than your own employer who will be calling on your services sooner rather than later. Some people claim football doesn't care about health. I am not so sure about this but feel instinctively that the transmission of respiratory viruses takes place in closed settings like call centres, offices, restaurants, clubs, pubs, factories and homes. All places where fans are and where some football players are too.I suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home or in socialising than in playing football in the open air.

A significant objection is that when people are dying they do not feel in the mood to watch football. And yet people watch films, and read books and do many things to take their minds off football. It is good to do so.

It's become trendy to bash football just like it was in the 1980s. Seems like it's happening again.
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You’re depressing.
 
I've got it, Eureka !.
Start another league from scratch for the remaining games. All teams starting from 0 points, as if it's the start of a new season, when all the games have been played add the results and points to the ones that each team had already acquired before they stopped the league. Great idea. All games played behind closed doors home and away
 
BillCarlisle Ex-Manchester said:
I agree that social distancing by the likes of Pep & Kiddo etc could be practised but is it really worth the risk at this stage ? As we all know, even a young player could be very ill with Covid. Not least the risk of a player unknowingly picking it up & taking the virus home. Surely we should be further down the line than 1st June before training re-starts. The idea of re-starting so soon all seems a bit rushed to me and I honestly can't see it happening before we really have a lid on it.
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I’m playing devil’s advocate, I don’t want it to resume and most importantly I don’t think the players do. But if City were in the scousers’ shoes and we were on the verge of our first title in 30 years then I’d most probably be baying for it to restart
 
BillCarlisle Ex-Manchester said:
I agree that social distancing by the likes of Pep & Kiddo etc could be practised but is it really worth the risk at this stage ? As we all know, even a young player could be very ill with Covid. Not least the risk of a player unknowingly picking it up & taking the virus home. Surely we should be further down the line than 1st June before training re-starts. The idea of re-starting so soon all seems a bit rushed to me and I honestly can't see it happening before we really have a lid on it.
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One factor that hasn't been mentioned much are the long-term affects of the virus. It's true that people under 40 with no other health issues have virtually no chance of being killed by this disease. I read somewhere they have more chance of dying in a car crash.
However it is clear that a lot of younger people are getting very ill and going to hospital. Some of them are taking months to get fit again. Who knows what long-term impact major lung damage will have on a professional athlete whose whole living depends on fitness? Getting this virus could threaten the future careers of some of the world's leading footballers. There are a lot of unknowns.
 
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