Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

AlexWilliamsGloves said:
It hasnt lost its integrity at all...there is an unprecedented world wide pandemic...just stop for a while, make sure everyone is safe and well, and then carry on.....if anything, that maintains its integrity as it all gets finished as fairly as possibly.

Sure none of us want Liverpool to win the league...but cutting the season short at such a late stage, when something like this is a sensible option (in my opinion) does not show great integrity.
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How can a 3 month break in between games be fair?
Players return from injury, fatigue is gone.

plus on top of that you’ve got the duckers creating crazy ideas, shorter halves, more subs, no VAR, no relegation, players out of contract/loans finishing, players not even in England.
On what planet is that continuing the integrity?

No, cancel it and bring football back when it’s ready and raring to go.
 
bluemoon32 said:
Can't be bothered going around other forums and i don't expect others to do that on my behalf but has anyone visited other clubs sites already ?
What do other clubs fans think about all this ?
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A fair few similar views to the majority here it would seem with a slight sprinkling of a vocal, contrary minority insisting that football must continue. To name a few...

Arsenal - https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/thr...tball-aiming-for-june-6-return.34136/page-178

Villa - https://www.villatalk.com/topic/18895-premier-league-2019-2020-thread/page/551/

Bournemouth - https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfoot...ulation-on-how-this-season-ends.11279/page-82

Brighton - https://www.northstandchat.com/show...-League-attempts-to-finish-the-season/page254

West Ham - https://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=177540&start=820

Spurs - https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/in...ue-officially-postponed-until.141877/page-107

Chelsea - https://www.theshedend.com/topic/33741-how-to-end-this-season/page/19/#comments

Wolves - https://www.wolvesforum.co.uk/showthread.php?36245-Wolves-Covid-19/page17
 
MillisleBlue said:
I genuinely believe that their open-topped bus will drive over the corpses of COVID-19 victims (to be referred to by the media as collateral damage) en-route to Dipperville in order to get the money shot of Van Wank Bag holding aloft the Premier League trophy. The £millions or £billions that shot will generate vastly outweighs minor details like collective responsibility, common sense and public safety.
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A picture of 'never been dribbled past (except for when I have)' holding a trophy in an empty stadium isn't going to generate anything except ridicule.

To be honest I'm gutted this all happened when it did. A reminder of their form;

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They were heading for a really anti-climatic end to the season meanwhile our trajectory was pointing towards the sky.

If the season resumes I pray we win the FA Cup and at least knock Madrid out of the CL as that was what our form suggested would happen prior to this happening.

Dippers would be in meltdown if we win a cup treble, we'd completely eclipse them (again).
 
RightTurnClyde said:
A fair few similar views to the majority here it would seem with a slight sprinkling of a vocal, contrary minority insisting that football must continue. To name a few...

Arsenal - https://arsenal-mania.com/forum/thr...tball-aiming-for-june-6-return.34136/page-178

Villa - https://www.villatalk.com/topic/18895-premier-league-2019-2020-thread/page/551/

Bournemouth - https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfoot...ulation-on-how-this-season-ends.11279/page-82

Brighton - https://www.northstandchat.com/show...-League-attempts-to-finish-the-season/page254

West Ham - https://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=177540&start=820

Spurs - https://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/in...ue-officially-postponed-until.141877/page-107

Chelsea - https://www.theshedend.com/topic/33741-how-to-end-this-season/page/19/#comments

Wolves - https://www.wolvesforum.co.uk/showthread.php?36245-Wolves-Covid-19/page17
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Thank you
 
@BluePhil8 said:
If the season resumes I pray we win the FA Cup and at least knock Madrid out of the CL as that was what our form suggested would happen prior to this happening.

Dippers would be in meltdown if we win a cup treble, we'd completely eclipse them (again).
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City fans seem obsessed with Liverpool now. Completely negative emotion. City can still win things and although we can't be there, it will still be an achievement by the players who we still have a connection with because the break is temporary.

This thread is depressing. Every time I open it, there's another football fan hating on the game that has given us so much pleasure. Self-harm. Remember the Aguero 93:20 moment, and Yaya's goals at Wembley.

I am told football has shown its greed. Hello. The profit motive has run society ever since the factory owners displaced the land-owners. Football is no more capital and labour than your own employer who will be calling on your services sooner rather than later. Some people claim football doesn't care about health. I am not so sure about this but feel instinctively that the transmission of respiratory viruses takes place in closed settings like call centres, offices, restaurants, clubs, pubs, factories and homes. All places where fans are and where some football players are too.I suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home or in socialising than in playing football in the open air.

A significant objection is that when people are dying they do not feel in the mood to watch football. And yet people watch films, and read books and do many things to take their minds off football. It is good to do so.

It's become trendy to bash football just like it was in the 1980s. Seems like it's happening again.
 
Outside of the dippers and current football issues I wonder when we will be able to sit in full stadiums again. It could be years....if we never found a vaccine then it might never be as it was.
The thought that for years we could be sitting in half full stadiums because of social distancing, and not hear that immense roar when we score an important goal for such a long.

My dads touching 70 and ive only ever twice been to a match without him and that was 30+ years ago. Our last game together was Kompanys testimonial. The thought that...if its years - he might not even be here by the time it returns to normal is just really really sad.

Keeps going around in my head how we could theoretically get around it. Could the club put perspex to the sides of each seat and then allow full stadiums again? Possibly but then how would we get supporters in and out of the stadium within a reasonable time frame if we had to queue like at supermarkets. I dont think we could - and then if we had to be evacuated for any reason - a fire or similar - theres no way we could do that with social distancing.

Football in the now pales into significance when you consider the long term ramifications of COVID.
 
If they insist on finishing the current season it should be under the same conditions it started with.
  • Full stadiums.
  • Home and away fixtures at the teams own venues.
  • 45 minutes each half.
  • VAR in operation (even though it is shit)
  • Maximum of three substitutes.
If it finishes behind closed doors at neutral venues and with lots more hairbrained ideas included, then how can it be considered a completed season?

To complete it properly will probably not be possible until a vaccine is acquired and that will mean it carrying on into mid 2021 at the earliest.

The powers that be would be better employed calling this season null & void and planning for a new season to start whenever that is possible.
 
Marvin said:
City fans seem obsessed with Liverpool now. Completely negative emotion. City can still win things and although we can't be there, it will still be an achievement by the players who we still have a connection with because the break is temporary.

This thread is depressing. Every time I open it, there's another football fan hating on the game that has given us so much pleasure. Self-harm. Remember the Aguero 93:20 moment, and Yaya's goals at Wembley.

I am told football has shown its greed. Hello. The profit motive has run society ever since the factory owners displaced the land-owners. Football is no more capital and labour than your own employer who will be calling on your services sooner rather than later. Some people claim football doesn't care about health. I am not so sure about this but feel instinctively that the transmission of respiratory viruses takes place in closed settings like call centres, offices, restaurants, clubs, pubs, factories and homes. All places where fans are and where some football players are too.I suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home or in socialising than in playing football in the open air.

A significant objection is that when people are dying they do not feel in the mood to watch football. And yet people watch films, and read books and do many things to take their minds off football. It is good to do so.

It's become trendy to bash football just like it was in the 1980s. Seems like it's happening again.
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Empty stadiums and you seem fine with it ?? Truly don't understand how relaxed you are.. I take pride in going to games when we was shit and supporting my club.. It doesn't sit right..

You suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home? Let's play with lives then for our entertainment just to make sure and we all can enjoy the beautiful game in empty stadiums to zero fans .. makes sense right..

Lets also abandon league 1 and league 2 as clearly them smaller leagues don't matter but lets play all the premier league fixtures because its more important and its not about all about greed?
 
HolisticJim said:
Outside of the dippers and current football issues I wonder when we will be able to sit in full stadiums again. It could be years....if we never found a vaccine then it might never be as it was.
The thought that for years we could be sitting in half full stadiums because of social distancing, and not hear that immense roar when we score an important goal for such a long.

My dads touching 70 and ive only ever twice been to a match without him and that was 30+ years ago. Our last game together was Kompanys testimonial. The thought that...if its years - he might not even be here by the time it returns to normal is just really really sad.

Keeps going around in my head how we could theoretically get around it. Could the club put perspex to the sides of each seat and then allow full stadiums again? Possibly but then how would we get supporters in and out of the stadium within a reasonable time frame if we had to queue like at supermarkets. I dont think we could - and then if we had to be evacuated for any reason - a fire or similar - theres no way we could do that with social distancing.

Football in the now pales into significance when you consider the long term ramifications of COVID.
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Good question and one I think about too. I think one next season would cover it in the worst case.

Fans can return when there is a vaccine or when there is herd immunity. They said yesterday that as of yesterday 10% of Londoners had antibodies and that was 5 weeks ago (before the peak) so you could probably very roughly double that figure now.

Other nations are trying to suppress it down to nil eg. New Zealand or South Korea. But what happens then. Does it dissappear or does it come back again in a 2nd wave. That is the big question. The suppression route is the low death route in the short term but it's not clear t ome whether it's just a temporary fix. I don't like temporary fixes. Whatever I think one year is the worst case scenario. That's bad enough. Not sure what football will look like then.
 
CITYROBBO said:
Empty stadiums and you seem fine with it ?? Truly don't understand how relaxed you are.. I take pride in going to games when we was shit and supporting my club.. It doesn't sit right..

You suspect footballers are more likely to fall ill at home? Let's play with lives then for our entertainment just to make sure and we all can enjoy the beautiful game in empty stadiums to zero fans .. makes sense right..

Lets also abandon league 1 and league 2 as clearly them smaller leagues don't matter but lets play all the premier league fixtures because its more important and its not about all about greed?
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I am not fine about not watching football in person. I miss it very much but it's not on the agenda is it? Are you telling me that you do not want football to return until fans can return? That would be consistent with your position but it's untenable unless you are happy for football clubs to fold and then re-form
 
Marvin said:
I am not fine about not watching football in person. I miss it very much but it's not on the agenda is it? Are you telling me that you do not want football to return until fans can return? That would be consistent with your position but it's untenable unless you are happy for football clubs to fold and then re-form
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Football is driven by the fans, without fans it's an empty soulless non event. Even if clubs fold peoples health comes first. Football just isn't that important right now IMO.
 
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Return of the Mac said:
What "sensible" option you talking about ? The only sensible one is voiding the league and try to prepare to start next season when it's safe to do so. Every other option is anything but "sensible" in my opinion.
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The sensible suggestion being the one er, suggested...in my opinion of course.....pause the season, and resume it as and when safe to do so.....could easily be the end of the year.

So if next season is cancelled or postponed, there are essentially not as many consequences.....possibly just dont have a 20/21 season
 
give it to gordon said:
Has in my eyes .. .restart with shorter halfs, 5 subs, a 4 month break, no VAR. Just the break is enough for the league to have lost it integrity
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but to introduce those things IS to take away its integrity, you are changing the "rules" and processes of the game. What i suggested changes nothing...therefore no loss of integrity
 
Gray said:
If they insist on finishing the current season it should be under the same conditions it started with.
  • Full stadiums.
  • Home and away fixtures at the teams own venues.
  • 45 minutes each half.
  • VAR in operation (even though it is shit)
  • Maximum of three substitutes.
If it finishes behind closed doors at neutral venues and with lots more hairbrained ideas included, then how can it be considered a completed season?

To complete it properly will probably not be possible until a vaccine is acquired and that will mean it carrying on into mid 2021 at the earliest.

The powers that be would be better employed calling this season null & void and planning for a new season to start whenever that is possible.
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You know full well that we can't have full stadia. So if you want equal conditions throughout a season you are effectively saying no football a year. That will be the end of many clubs. Can't see the government paying players.
 
TheThirdDeano said:
How can a 3 month break in between games be fair?
Players return from injury, fatigue is gone.

plus on top of that you’ve got the duckers creating crazy ideas, shorter halves, more subs, no VAR, no relegation, players out of contract/loans finishing, players not even in England.
On what planet is that continuing the integrity?

No, cancel it and bring football back when it’s ready and raring to go.
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A 3 month (or more) break is unavoidable...so thats a given...again, wait until safe an well (and fit) to do so.

I never suggested any of those changes, in fact i am suggesting there be NO changes....wait until ready to go, and then bck to normal, resume as is/was.
 
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