Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

domalino said:
This place is sure going to be a lot quieter without all the people who are going to stop watching football because of this.
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Of course people will watch it when it comes back, and at the same time of course people are entitled to feel totally disenchanted, and even kinda repulsed, about the idea of it coming back at the moment. Football's importance has never been questioned in this way in our lifetime. For many, and I genuinely believe this to be true, they've realised how unessential it actually is. Being surrounded by death will do that to most people. It *does* feel unimportant at the moment...

However, they will likely tune back in, because deep down we all do want some semblance of normality, and we do love City. It'll be something to hold onto, and despite our better judgments morally, when its on, we'll have nothing else to do, so we'll watch it. We just don't like the idea of what City and football could mean at the moment. It feels gross to be perfectly honest, and that's fair enough isn't it? It doesn't make those people actual hypocrites, it makes them human. Conflicting thoughts on this are only natural, so there's no need to judge people or be sanctimonious about it. Just allow people these conflicting thoughts. It's a pretty awful and unprecedented time.
 
twosips said:
Of course people will watch it when it comes back, and at the same time of course people are entitled to feel totally disenchanted, and even kinda repulsed, about the idea of it coming back at the moment. Football's importance has never been questioned in this way in our lifetime. For many, and I genuinely believe this to be true, they've realised how unessential it actually is. Being surrounded by death will do that to most people. It *does* feel unimportant at the moment...

However, they will likely tune back in, because deep down we all do want some semblance of normality, and we do love City. It'll be something to hold onto, and despite our better judgments morally, when its on, we'll have nothing else to do, so we'll watch it. We just don't like the idea of what City and football could mean at the moment. It feels gross to be perfectly honest, and that's fair enough isn't it? It doesn't make those people actual hypocrites, it makes them human. Conflicting thoughts on this are only natural, so there's no need to judge people or be sanctimonious about it. Just allow people these conflicting thoughts. It's a pretty awful and unprecedented time.
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Good post.
 
domalino said:
There's a difference between having conflicted thoughts, and declaring you're done with the entire sport if it comes back.
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I'd guess for many its emotion, nothing more. Some people may feel that way of course - either way its understandable to lash out given how everyone feels. I guess they feel wronged by the game they love. I get that. We're all a bit upset/stressed at the moment.
 
domalino said:
So we should all just ignore everything that's posted because everyone can't control their emotions at the moment?
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Come on mate, I didn't say that did I? Don't be obtuse. You're an intelligent guy. You know the point I'm making... I just don't think this is something to point score over from either side of the argument currently. I think we should all be a little more tolerant of clearly emotion lead (and ultimately harmless) opinions on a football forum. People are just venting. Anyway, this is going nowhere.
 
domalino said:
There's a difference between having conflicted thoughts, and declaring you're done with the entire sport if it comes back.
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Most comments I've read are saying they're not interested in watching it right now and/or without fans, that's certainly where I sit, and have consistently said so, if its not safe for me to watch it, then its no more safe for players to play imho.
 
twosips said:
Of course people will watch it when it comes back, and at the same time of course people are entitled to feel totally disenchanted, and even kinda repulsed, about the idea of it coming back at the moment. Football's importance has never been questioned in this way in our lifetime. For many, and I genuinely believe this to be true, they've realised how unessential it actually is. Being surrounded by death will do that to most people. It *does* feel unimportant at the moment...

However, they will likely tune back in, because deep down we all do want some semblance of normality, and we do love City. It'll be something to hold onto, and despite our better judgments morally, when its on, we'll have nothing else to do, so we'll watch it. We just don't like the idea of what City and football could mean at the moment. It feels gross to be perfectly honest, and that's fair enough isn't it? It doesn't make those people actual hypocrites, it makes them human. Conflicting thoughts on this are only natural, so there's no need to judge people or be sanctimonious about it. Just allow people these conflicting thoughts. It's a pretty awful and unprecedented time.
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Excellent post.

I’m not done with the sport. Although I won’t watch a match if games resume for this season. It’s pathetic frankly. Just to give a cult a ribbon and keep the betting houses happy.

But someday when circumstances allow it I’ll tune in. Would imagine most City fans will too.
 
domalino said:
Yes, precisely. How many of the people who have no interest in watching it right now without fans, will in fact be sitting there watching it without fans as soon as it starts?

I'll guess it's most of them.
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And my point, which I tried to put a lot more politely before, is 'so fucking what?'. Who cares? There's nothing to win here, other than being able to say 'I told you so'. Well done, you'll be right, but you'll win nowt. None of us will. Things are shite and we're all in it together whether we like it or not. If it makes you feel better though I guess, go for it, just like it makes people feel better to vent their disgust at it. Doesn't change anything either way though.
 
domalino said:
Ok so why bother posting at all?

If the comments are meaningless and you'll have changed your mind completely in 2 weeks - and you know it before you post - what's the point?

What do you get from posting that football coming back is abhorrent, and you're totally against it, knowing full well that the words are meaningless?
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Because people like to vent and scream and shout sometimes. Why do you think so many of us tell people we love that we hate them when we're emotional? It makes them feel better for whatever reason. Its human nature. We all vent, we're all frustrated. As I said, right now it's pretty understandable, even it it is annoying. Everyone feels wronged. Anyway, goodnight mate.
 
domalino said:
Twice a week during social distances training, daily when games start.

Read the news before discussing it ffs.
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I haven't seen anything about daily testing. Several sources (e.g. attached) mention twice weekly. Can you please post a link to daily testing if you have it.
https://sportstar.thehindu.com/foot...onavirus-pandemic-england/article31570952.ece

Secondly, can you please explain why the CDC's 2.5 in 100000 stat is relevant. That refers to hospitalization. What about all the people who get sick without being hospitalized or are asymptomatic carriers? That's the stat you should be looking at.

Thirdly, my company along with hundreds of others have stated very clearly that: (a) there will be no return to the workplace any time soon (think July/August at earliest); and (b) if/when it happens, the conditions will be very different with shifts and different seating arrangements to ensure safety of everyone. How does that in any way tie with playing football which is a close-up contact sport in mid-June?
 
Interesting the pressure tv are coming under to make it free to view. Maybe those driving the agenda are worried they could be left with ‘lifting the spirit of the nation’ egg on their face. Free to view will get an audience even if it’s bournemouth v norwich
 
domalino said:
Well I'd be surprised if people who don't watch football anymore still commented on it?
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Just maybe people are not prepared to line Sky/BT/Premier leagues pockets and will not "watch" behind closed doors football in protest , there are plenty of other ways to keep in touch with the game , match reports , written media etc., Bluemoon ,and all for free.
What the premier league and other interested parties are doing is direspectful to the over 30k dead and hundreds of health workers giving or risking their lives , i want a return to watching footy but not when 500 a day are losing their lives. Finishing the season now and even giving the Dippers the title and then getting the game ready for Aug/Sept start (hopefully when we are getting on top of this virus) , is the sensible option , but if the Premier league force through a June start , i will not contribute a bean or watch any football until the situation improves.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Just maybe people are not prepared to line Sky/BT/Premier leagues pockets and will not "watch" behind closed doors football in protest , there are plenty of other ways to keep in touch with the game , match reports , written media etc., Bluemoon ,and all for free.
What the premier league and other interested parties are doing is direspectful to the over 30k dead and hundreds of health workers giving or risking their lives , i want a return to watching footy but not when 500 a day are losing their lives. Finishing the season now and even giving the Dippers the title and then getting the game ready for Aug/Sept start (hopefully when we are getting on top of this virus) , is the sensible option , but if the Premier league force through a June start , i will not contribute a bean or watch any football until the situation improves.
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I take it you will return to watching football when we only have the usual 1,500 deaths a day as per pre virus averages
 
karen7 said:
#PremierLeague players will be tested for coronavirus at least twice a week, including in the 48 hours before they are due to train, it was confirmed at a meeting today. [
@SkySportsNews

Top-flight managers were told in a meeting today that all team and coach meetings will continue to be done by videoconference, and all data and video recordings of training sessions are to be made available to the #PremierLeague. [
@SkySportsNews

Training Ground Protocols | #PremierLeague: - Players to drive alone to training in kit - Temperature checked at training ground entrance - Designated parking space (three away others) - No food at training ground - Train in group of five for a 75 minutes max [1/3] [
@SkyKaveh

- Encouraged to wear mask or snood - No tackling or spitting - Everything disinfected: balls, pitch, goalposts, cones, equipment - Players must maintain social distancing at all times [2/3]

- Injured players treated by physio wearing PPE (must include minimum of mask, gloves and apron) - After training, players will drive straight home

Foreign players returning to England will not be allowed into their training ground for 14 days. [
@SkyKaveh

How the fuck can they do this for a contact sport and the training they have to do face to face not over zoom or whatever

Kill me now
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I'm beginning to see how this might work, i hadn't realised that so much thought had been put into this cunning plan, said Blackadder to Baldrick.

- Kyle do you think you can follow these simple rules? you don't tackle anyway so you just need to remember no gobbing on the pitch, and contininue to pizzas delivered to your house
 
I feel so for couples who live apart they can watch footballers getting all hot and sweaty and getting close to each other. They can have someone round to view their flat. But the two lovers cant get close and sweaty or even go into each others flats. I think people say things they might not mean because some members of the public, footballers can get tested easy but people working on the frontline cant always , plus we are in the middle of a pandemic, people have more to worry about VAR fucking us over again

Football seems to want to rush back regardless whether most fans are ready for it
 
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Marvin said:
Players aren't likely to sing (shown to be the most dangerous activity of all because it drags up large quantities of virus particles in droplets from deep in the lungs), and they are unlikely to be socialising before and after the game. There's travel too.

Players are also on the move almost all of the time in the open air which makes transmission of a significant viral load unlikely. Transmission is a function of the time you spend close in the company of an infected person and that's very clearly a much more significant problem for fans than players. On top of that players will be very regularly tested.

Governments across Europe have approved outdoors sports without crowds presumably because they think they have a different risk profile.
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You're quite correct, footballers are characterised by their unwillingness to sing. Who knew this would save their lives? They never socialise after a game either so i can understand it being safe to play football. As long as the fans don't sing then, we should all be able to gather 2m apart outside the ground before the game to clap them in NHS style and then after the game clap them as they are leaving. If any fan gets over excited and sings or chants , there will be an audible signal such as a klaxon that indicates we should all run around but observe the 2 m distance rule.If the clubs could paint some floor markings and lines then i see how it can work, game on! My mentality is saved . It'll be like an adult version of 'Runaround 'with MIKE REID . Those old blues will remember, so no training is required. Perhaps we can get TV personalities to shout Runaround! Piers Morgan at Arsenal for example , perhaps Noel Gallagher for us?
STAY ALERT, NO SINGING, RUN AROUND, SAVE FOOTBALL
 
Marvin said:
I know you there is some cynicism but the evidence is that the risk settings for respiratory illnesses are typically in closed environments.

Football maybe a lucrative industry but the approval was for outdoor sports in general.
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So the example they show on TV is of 2 players , I think Justin and Sebastian , playing a game of singles tennis. The precautions being
  • No serving , (as that would involve touching the ball)
  • Only the player that brought the balls can touch them
  • No doubles games
I can see a few amendments might be required to the football restart master plan if the health guidelines are to be followed and it meet with approval. The game we watch on the TV might be a little bit different to what we are used to but only a cynic would suggest it was a complete bag of shite driven by greed
 
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