COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Finally got to see my doctor mate this morning. He works at the Valencia General hospital which he reckons is about 95% back to normal. They think the summer months will be fine but they've all been told to take holidays now because they are expecting a second wave to start some time in September.
 
Contact tracing has been part of the approach that has worked apparently successfully in several Asian countries, how well we can implement it here with our high numbers remains to be seen.
 
Gabriel said:
Worrying trend among meat packing facilities in the Netherlands, with similar cases appearing in other European countries.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/...virus-scare-one-in-six-workers-test-positive/

UK will be no different, so important that such places are spotlighted and checked now to stave off the threat. Cue reading about outbreaks in late June...
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Haven't the factories just carried on working over here? Is it not safe to presume that most of them would have had it now, if they were going to?
 
twosips said:
How important is the 'type' of outside though. My parents garden for example, surrounded by tall trees/fences etc. It feels 'still'. It's hardly blustery. Where can that virus go other than towards the person you're talking to? Is it really *that* much safer? If you're sat a metre away from someone, which is barely anything, and talking at them solidly for a while, is the fact that you're sat in a garden really gonna make any difference? I don't quite get it. Does the coronavirus just suddenly disperse in every direction when you're outside? I'm honestly curious and not trying to be awkward or anything. I just don't quite get it.
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Guidence is to stay 2m apart. I am sticking to it as most peoples idea of two meters is probably closer to 1m than 2m. I just think that in the fullness of time 1m will be shown to be enough - indeed lots of countries are basing their social distancing on a distance of 1m.
Even the bare minimum of air movement outside will disperse the virus to minimal levels and it's looking like initial viral load on infection that counts. Minimal load seems to be dealt with by the imune system and the more virus you get initially the worse you get the illness. My daughter tells me there is a paper from the Royal College of Physicians that was published on this in tge last couple of days, but I can only finger a reference to it here.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...l-load-coronavirus-worse-200515075609542.html
 
twosips said:
Haven't the factories just carried on working over here? Is it not safe to presume that most of them would have had it now, if they were going to?
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Some are still shut, some repurposed, some shut and reopened recently, and some shut and reopened weeks ago, some carried on as normal. Everyone was different.
 
Cityfan said:
Contact tracing has been part of the approach that has worked apparently successfully in several Asian countries, how well we can implement it here with our high numbers remains to be seen.
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Our current new case levels are 3 times the level of peak South Korea but wer'e deploying a lot of technology including the app (soon) and a lot of people at it. Here are two articles on how it works:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-into-a-virus-tracking-database-idUSKBN22Y03I

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...w-south-korea-flattened-its-coronavirus-curve

I can't see people will accept this who think other civil liberties are not trumped by the right NOT to get I'll and die. But that discussion is for the political thread.
 
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