COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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I know one day's data is never significant but if you flick through the new cases for Today v Yesterday on world-o-meter you will find that many of the European countries are seeing declines in their new cases:

I just thought I'd list them, and you can check if you're interested: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Italy declined
Spain declined
Germany declined
France declined
Switzerland up
Netherlands up
Belgium declined

Perhaps their total active cases are going up still but it does seem that there are signs across Europe that the heat has gone out of the European epidemic.

Will wonders never cease, Marvin being relatively positive.

 

[Coatigan]

My point is that their lock downs aren’t quite the same as a U.K. lock down. People welded inside apartments.

Having their temperature checked twice a day by a nurse and having to self check phone in another two times a day (happening right now in Shanghai according to a friend who lives there).

Having magnets fitted to door frames so it can be monitored if you open your front door.

They certainly aren’t fucking about.

Yeah thats what i thought you meant. Agree, they have the resources and ruthlessness. Seen parta where overnight they dug up and destroyed entire road networks in and out of cities, so even if you wanted to, couldnt leave anywhere. When it is over, they can rebuild them. They might be economical with some figures, but they are also capable of properly controlling the public, and thus the spread. their numbers or at least the pattern might not be too wildly off

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

Will wonders never cease, Marvin being relatively positive.

Yeah but it says it as it is

 

[AlgarveBlu]

I think it’s particularly difficult to predict whether the virus has peaked or not in Italy because eg there have been large numbers of priests and doctors who have been infected who could have continued to inadvertently spread the virus after the lockdown was introduced. There’s also the rise in cases in Rome and the risk of the virus spreading more in the South.

As I understand it, the lockdown in Wuhan was different to that in European countries in that people found to have the virus were isolated from away from their homes in specialist medical centres / hospitals.

The data above though is specific to the Lombardy region, there’s definitely a spike in the south of Lombardy which was always going to happen when everybody headed for the trains to escape go home as soon as the announcement was made. I’m just surprised that under the stringent lockdown conditions we are still seeing as many test positive at this stage in the window from the 8th March lockdown.

 

[Djibrilshairdo]

The Chinese must be fucking bullshitting with their numbers. I am not having it that it just virtually stopped. What’s the score with the Russians? Are they bullshitting too.

North Korea are quiet on the whole affair.

 

[Indaparkside]

Jesus, a mortuary being built at Birmingham airport with capacity for 12,000 bodies. That’s ominous. And it’s not the only one being built.

Heard 2 guys going on about the remaining games of the season left
My response

This is why we should fuck football off completely, who cares give Liverpool the title I don’t give a fuck more important things in the world going on
People are dying yet some people would go back in a stadium tomorrow
Fucking morons

 

[inchy14]

The Lombardy situation is strange in that some regions within Lombardy had already gone on a tight lock down on the 21st February and then the Whole Lombardy region on the 8th March and yet the city of Bergamo alone today recorded an additional 602 new positive cases. Do these levels of new positive cases nearly three weeks later sound right under lockdown conditions?


Once again, the city of Bergamo saw the most new cases on Friday - 602 - with Milan in second place with 547. However, the region as a whole saw a slight dip.

"The infection rate is not growing and I think it is about to fall," said Lombardy Governor Attilio Fontana.

I know for a fact that not all of northern Italy us in lockdown, I buy plastics from a company there and they again today have shipped out goods to us. Being delivered at some point next week. They are running with a skeleton staff and are following certain safety procedures but definitely still working.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...21-year-old-not-recorded-nhs-covid-19-related

So the 21 year old girl who died of Covid 19 with no underlying conditions , seemingly and sadly Didn’t she had a heart attack.

what is going on. It’s like before Covid 19 , nobody died in this country.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

The Samaritans have moved their HQ to Anfield.

 

[cityontheup]

WORTH A READ - EXPLAINS MORE THAN I KNEW

Good read from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University

Not really feeling sick and do not want to be..but if you are feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not needed right now.

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on. To copy and paste, hold your hand on the text till copy appears, then go to your page and hold you finger down again till paste appears.