Summer Transfers

Mental ain't it. Ppl still want ferna, laporte backed up by nico and garcia. Not only is that not an improvement but nico and ferna are another year older, another year slower. So what's the other option. Let's get bonucci!!! Wtf does that fix?

We need speed, power, height, leadership, solid on the ball yet isnt going to hamper thb or Garcia. I know, let's buy a 20/23 year old potential superstar (upemacano, dias, konate). Then moan when our own potential greats do one.

So logically age and attributes koulibaly ticks every box. Is he expensive? Yes, but we wont in theory need to buy a cb for a decade.

We have so many players we either dont need or arent good enough.
Bravo finished
Cancelo if he wants to stay good if not sell him. Hes rarely used, play a kid.
Nico finished
Stones if newcastle want to spend big sell him.
Zinchenko not a lb not gonna replace bernado, Kdb, foden.
Angelino if we gonna play 3 at the back keep if not sell.
Gundogan not what we need as an 8 an average dm
Mahrez slows our play down, fancies out of tackles. Sell next season.
Sane sign a new contract or sell
Kun 1 more season
Ferna 1 more season rotate with rodri.

Koulibaly
Camavinga
Isak
Diaby
Aouar

Not sure about the options you have put to purchase (unrealistc at best) but I agree with the main body of your post.

There is no room for sentiment in football and that includes the young lads - they are either good enough or not and there is no guarnatee that THB and Garcia will be good enoguh/the right fit for the premiership (Garcia would make it in Italy for certain and probably in Spain as well)
 
While i agree with you its not as easy as that, Mcguire is an upgrade in every dept on Ottomendi - better in the air, better at bringing the ball out from the back, quicker and easily just as good one vs one defending (Probably better and certainly not as rash) - so individually in all departments he is better. its hard to see that he wouldnt be able to cope better than Ottomendi in our system

Hopefully like others have said Pep and Txixi have do someone in mind that fits even better (and for cheaper as i completely agree he was overpriced
Even if Maguire may have been better than Otamendi in the long run, again not worth paying £85m for. Look at the price we paid for Laporte £57m. Even if you play more for English players, there is no justification for paying that much for the fee and paying a higher salary to Maguire for a slightly better Otamendi. Ota is terrific in the air btw.

IMO the club did the right thing by walking away and waiting for another even if it hurt in the short term.
 
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No thats why i clearly wrote i was torn about him - so asy to post the common glib responses without reading properly first...do you deny he is better than Ottomendi and Stones?

I deny that City should have broke their transfer record and made Maguire our highest paid player. Earning more than KDB, Aguero, and Sterling. That would not be the way forward would it..
I was not the one who made Maguire an example of our poor transfer activity.
I prefer our signing to Shaw, Pogba, Maguire, Sanchez,and Marital . No trophies and fifth for them a unique domestic treble for us. United have the largest wage bill in the World.

That is why I replied, and i read every word.
 
Steffen
Skriniar
Alaba
Aouar
Sancho

assuming cancelo stays then no RB needed. Alaba in the Sané deal and he can cover CB as well.
 
Steffen
Skriniar
Alaba
Aouar
Sancho

assuming cancelo stays then no RB needed. Alaba in the Sané deal and he can cover CB as well.
That’s the dream right there. Would be over £200 mill in spends have we the potential outgoings to cover this? I assume we’re awaiting some kind of good resolution from CAS case?
 
That’s the dream right there. Would be over £200 mill in spends have we the potential outgoings to cover this? I assume we’re awaiting some kind of good resolution from CAS case?

I would imagine we are waiting to see mate yeah. Well we own steffen already, Alaba could be in the Sané deal? Maybe Alaba and £15m for Leroy? Aouar seems rumored at around £40m ish so £using the surplus Leroy money means £25m in a sense for him? Skriniar or some like him Is going to still cost big bucks and is more important than a Sancho to be honest but adding Sancho on there would be the cherry on top!
 
Steffen
Skriniar
Alaba
Aouar
Sancho

assuming cancelo stays then no RB needed. Alaba in the Sané deal and he can cover CB as well.

Obviously i know no better than you, but
Steffen, he had a great season on loan and understands first team football is more important than sitting on the bench, he will ask to leave if we do not loan out again, Muric had a torrid time but is still quality sitting on our bench is just as good as someone else`s at least for next season, plus he is club trained.
Skriniar, is quality but he is already at a rich club, i would go for Upamecano because like Maguire he can play LCB and RCB.
Alaba, he does not want to play LB and has said so for years, plus he does not want to come to Britain.
Aouar, a good player that we do not need and not the best at what he does,
Sancho, credit to the lad for not riding the media city hate wave, but he did not leave us just to get game time, he could have done that on loan, he has a career path, that does not include coming back to Britain unless he fails, which clearly he has not.
Cancelo, until he puts in a transfer request he is a great back up, then if he does it is down to his agent to find a club willing to pay for him, which is not this year
 
Obviously i know no better than you, but
Steffen, he had a great season on loan and understands first team football is more important than sitting on the bench, he will ask to leave if we do not loan out again, Muric had a torrid time but is still quality sitting on our bench is just as good as someone else`s at least for next season, plus he is club trained.
Skriniar, is quality but he is already at a rich club, i would go for Upamecano because like Maguire he can play LCB and RCB.
Alaba, he does not want to play LB and has said so for years, plus he does not want to come to Britain.
Aouar, a good player that we do not need and not the best at what he does,
Sancho, credit to the lad for not riding the media city hate wave, but he did not leave us just to get game time, he could have done that on loan, he has a career path, that does not include coming back to Britain unless he fails, which clearly he has not.
Cancelo, until he puts in a transfer request he is a great back up, then if he does it is down to his agent to find a club willing to pay for him, which is not this year
You make some good valid points; Aouar, Alaba and Skriniar.

However Upamecano showed yesterday that he's still an absolute liability at times, if one of our centre backs had the game he had and I'm not just talking about the sending off, we wouldn't be happy at all. He cost his team the game effectively.

I'm not sure how you can say Sancho won't comeback to play in England either if I've read that correctly, I don't think you've got anything to substantiate that claim at all.

Cancelo, again, if he asks to leave, let him go. A player doesn't have to submit a formal transfer request to be allowed to leave, as long as he's not talking to the press and he's fulfilling his contractual obligations until we get an acceptable offer, then there's no issues needed to be created. Much like Sane.
 
You make some good valid points; Aouar, Alaba and Skriniar.

However Upamecano showed yesterday that he's still an absolute liability at times, if one of our centre backs had the game he had and I'm not just talking about the sending off, we wouldn't be happy at all. He cost his team the game effectively.

I'm not sure how you can say Sancho won't comeback to play in England either if I've read that correctly, I don't think you've got anything to substantiate that claim at all.

Cancelo, again, if he asks to leave, let him go. A player doesn't have to submit a formal transfer request to be allowed to leave, as long as he's not talking to the press and he's fulfilling his contractual obligations until we get an acceptable offer, then there's no issues needed to be created. Much like Sane.

I did read your comments on Upamecano on that page, however i have watched a lot of the leagues that have started back up, and they all have one thing in common they are not match fit they have no pace, poor ball control and lack awareness,15 minutes of flicking through the channels i had seen 3 sending off`s and 3 penalties not related, if you think our players will not be the same, you are in for a shock, by the way the player that plays like Mangala was Kouibaly big fast strong not particularly good in the air and poor ball control, but he was given time and improved, if anything Upamecano is more like Denayer.
At some point Sancho will as i said, but Sancho did not pick Dortmund by accident, and Dortmund are certainly as big as the clubs linked with him, at the moment
Cancelo is making a lot of noise, the transfer request would be a put up or shut up.
 
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Was going to pop on earlier as we have been mentioned again as a Chelsea competitor for the Chilwell signing, i personally rate Chilwell the same as Shaw and would not touch him with a barge pole, but last time Chilwell was linked out, they went looking at Tsimikas so i looked at him, he is a lot like Tierney `out injured and Arsenal wondering if they bought a dud` decent in defense and good going forward 10/15 million has been quoted, we have today been linked with Telles good going forward so so defending for around 40 million?
Our problem at LB injuries aside, is they all are much of a muchness , none that can do the whole job, the lad at Ajax should take Angelino`s place not that he is better but because he probably will be better, skill wise he is better but with no experience?, and i would bring Tmimikas as he is better than Zinky, and i do rate Zinky as one of the best in the league but he has no recovery when caught up the field, Trixy is going to have to be very creative when moving players on
 
I did read your comments on Upamecano on that page, however i have watched a lot of the leagues that have started back up, and they all have one thing in common they are not match fit they have no pace, poor ball control and lack awareness,15 minutes of flicking through the channels i had seen 3 sending off`s and 3 penalties not related, if you think our players will not be the same, you are in for a shock, by the way the player that plays like Mangala was Kouibaly big fast strong not particularly good in the air and poor ball control, but he was given time and improved, if anything Upamecano is more like Denayer.
At some point Sancho will as i said, but Sancho did not pick Dortmund by accident, and Dortmund are certainly as big as the clubs linked with him, at the moment
Cancelo is making a lot of noise, the transfer request would be a put up or shut up.
Yeah I just don't see it with Upamecano, he's obviously a very good player but I think a lot of posters advocating for his signature will be very disappointed if he ever signs due to the mistakes, not just the big ones either but that's just my opinion. I don't actually think there's a centre back around at the moment good enough to justify spending Harry Maguire type money.

Sancho, I disagree, I just think you're pissing in the wind but again that's just my opinion.

Cancelo; transfer requests are a very much a last resort, there's no need for the hostility either way, I just think it's pathetic. We're all grown men/women, if he wants to go, let him go. I'm sure he didn't come here with bad intentions and I'm sure he's not leaving with bad intentions, it's just not working out for whatever reason, no need for bad blood.
 
Yeah I just don't see it with Upamecano, he's obviously a very good player but I think a lot of posters advocating for his signature will be very disappointed if he ever signs due to the mistakes, not just the big ones either but that's just my opinion. I don't actually think there's a centre back around at the moment good enough to justify spending Harry Maguire type money.

Sancho, I disagree, I just think you're pissing in the wind but again that's just my opinion.

Cancelo; transfer requests are a very much a last resort, there's no need for the hostility either way, I just think it's pathetic. We're all grown men/women, if he wants to go, let him go. I'm sure he didn't come here with bad intentions and I'm sure he's not leaving with bad intentions, it's just not working out for whatever reason, no need for bad blood.

You have watched Upamecano play badly but just like Maguire his strength is the ability to play left and right usually well, as for the Maguire type money we will only pay that for Kouilbaly or Skriniar
As for Sancho i believe he is looking at Griezman and saying to himself i am better, and certainly his agent will be putting that across,
Cancelo is moaning at the club it is not hostility he is a valuable player for us but we need team spirit and harmony in the camp
 
You have watched Upamecano play badly but just like Maguire his strength is the ability to play left and right usually well, as for the Maguire type money we will only pay that for Kouilbaly or Skriniar
As for Sancho i believe he is looking at Griezman and saying to himself i am better, and certainly his agent will be putting that across,
Cancelo is moaning at the club it is not hostility he is a valuable player for us but we need team spirit and harmony in the camp
See this is where I question how well you know our system; we need a left footer on the left. I'm not saying that to be a cock by the way, so please don't be offended by that, I just don't know how else to say it.

Without the natural balance of a left footed at LCB our build-up play is slow and predictable, as well as making it very easy for opposition teams to shutdown our entire left hand side. A naturally right footed LCB can never be as comfortable playing out to the left, so the slightest bit of pressure on him will see him take the easy option. It also restricts the type of pass, you can't ping one into a wingers running path without a bigger risk of interception because the natural curl on the ball will be the wrong way to what you want, it'll always go inside (middle of the pitch) to out (touchline), instead of arching down the touchline side which is safer and less likely to be intercepted so allows more frequent attempts.

It sounds over the top but I know someone who did his coaching badges not too long ago and we got onto the topic when Laporte was out and he explained it, in more detail than I wanted to hear but when you watch us it makes sense and you actually see it a couple of times a game.
 
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Angelino transfer in doubt due to lack of finances (or they are just angling to get him much cheaper) - either way that will put a dent in the coffers for our transfer kitty

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/angelino-man-city-leipzig-transfer-18377681

This is where Trixy has to be clever, they want him and can afford him Red Bull are a rich club, but are still going to barter on the 30 million original press quote , if we sell on the never never it is the total price that FFP take into account, which is why Barca want rid of Dembele and Coutinho,
 
It’s just that the Leipzig gaffer says there has been no agreement and even contact from Chelsea?

yeah i saw he said there was no agreement but i didnt see he had said there had been no contact..the talk of him going to chelski seems pretty solid and all over the mainstream media -
 
yeah i saw he said there was no agreement but i didnt see he had said there had been no contact..the talk of him going to chelski seems pretty solid and all over the mainstream media -

agreed. I wonder why Werner allegedly turned us down? Game time I assume being the main one?
 

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