UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Coatigan]

Thing is, and I don’t doubt that the information posted is posted in good faith but just imagine, for a minute, that the word City was exchanged with United. The potential revenue implications of thIs are huge and I don’t think that they’d be allowed to sit on that knowledge for a week, a weekend or even a day, had it been known to them. I’m sure they would be obligated to tell the NYSE as soon as as they were made aware, given the likely positive/negative effect on their share price.

Perhaps. Perhaps they may have. valid enough point.

That is just my reading of the situation. Who knows though. Monday isn't far away either way

 

[Tony - MCFC]

Hopefully we will be exonerated shortly but some in UEFA & G14 will be happy either way as the smear campaign has worked whatever the outcome. I personally don’t care what other clubs fans think, but even if we are exonerated, we’ll be guilty in many idiots eyes, something UEFA/G14 will have set out to do imo.

 

[Coatigan]

When we received the ban was there any leak prior or was it just a statement from Uefa

Hunnars mate, hunnars of leaks.

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

Thing is, and I don’t doubt that the information posted is posted in good faith but just imagine, for a minute, that the word City was exchanged with United. The potential revenue implications of thIs are huge and I don’t think that they’d be allowed to sit on that knowledge for a week, a weekend or even a day, had it been known to them. I’m sure they would be obligated to tell the NYSE as soon as as they were made aware, given the likely positive/negative effect on their share price.

That's why they stick to a strict timetable. The only people who will know before announcement should be the adjudicators and support staff, all of whom will be subject to strict controls and warnings as to things like share dealing. I would hope this is the case, anyway. The fact that the decision affects one of the parties is irrelevant to CAS, that party has known the date of when the decision is released and can ask for it to be moved for practical reasons, like UEFA did. Sitting on the result for a period of time is irrelevant.

 

[chocovla]

When we received the ban was there any leak prior or was it just a statement from Uefa

There were quite some leaks and insinuations. Can at least remember one of these "journalists" posting something about the noose tightening round City's neck

 

[Keeper!]

Neither party will be given the decision before very early Monday morning. That’s what I’ve been told anyway. I would tend to believe it as there’s been zero leaks which would’ve come had it been communicated already.

I would be surprised if that was the case.

I would think UEFA and City would both want time to prepare a statement to be released immediately after the verdict is made public.

For both parties the decision is going to seriously effect their futures one way or the other.

 

[mcfcdave80]

Was the delaying of the announcement a decision/agreement by UEFA and City? If that's the case, it isn't really anything to do with CAS I wouldn't have thought. CAS will have had their own timetable for giving UEFA and City the decision and then it's up to the clubs what they do with it. With that in mind, I think it's very likely City know now.

 

[Otamendi's Beard]

I genuinely don’t think the club have been informed yet, so what @BillyShears said re: Monday morning sounds perfectly plausible to me.

I think something would’ve leaked by now if either the club or UEFA knew, but there’s been absolutely nothing.

But won't they both be legally bound to remain silent on it? I imagine that after comments from CAS regarding leaks during the initial process, UEFA wouldn't risk that again and we would ensure nothing comes out either.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Unless the proof of innocence is irrefutable I would be surprised if CAS gave us complete exoneration and thru out the case completely? If the case is that dodgy why would UEFA have banned us in the first place, it just makes them look incompetent. Is it not the case that most arbitration services look to try and keep most parties happy? Therefore we might find ourselves looking at a 1 season ban come Monday. I could obviously be wrong and truly hope I am, but this is just the pessimistic blue in me.

Haha, there is always that slight concern (both our legacy and the burden of proof aspect), but also, if I take a look inside my bag... I'm sure it's in here somewhere 《rummages》...ahh yes!
We just so do happen to have the holy handgrenade of irrefutable evidence, remember?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

What about the guy who called Fabian Delph when we all thought it had fell through?

That was a strange one for me, not the same guy in the quoted post but as I got out of the car to play golf the transfer had just been called off, got back in the car to find messages on my turned off mobile from a mare of mine sent 2 mins after I got out of the car & turned it off telling me to get some money on it happening, he was working for an ex-sponsor company in a very low job but they were dealing with his shirt printing.

Missed out on a load of winnings...and list at golf too!!!

 

[mcfcphil]

Neither party will be given the decision before very early Monday morning. That’s what I’ve been told anyway.

that’s exactly what I’d say to people if I was under strict instructions not to share information until Monday.

 

[slbsn]

Neither party will be given the decision before very early Monday morning. That’s what I’ve been told anyway. I would tend to believe it as there’s been zero leaks which would’ve come had it been communicated already.

If this is correct, I'd see this as a slight positive. I find it hard to believe that club aren't given proper time (48 hours) to prepare for a negative verdict. Less time needed for an upheld appeal.

 

[Goodlove]

You haven’t read the whole thread? seen the votes top of the thread? How many think we are innocent?

Corrected it for you. ; )

 

[Marvin]

I'll be watching the CL draw 11am. I think official reactions comments will be heavily guarded but their reactions might betray some confidence about how the hearing went. I think it went well for City because of the silence from the usual suspects in the media but that's wishful thinking.

 

[Centurions]

Was the delaying of the announcement a decision/agreement by UEFA and City? If that's the case, it isn't really anything to do with CAS I wouldn't have thought. CAS will have had their own timetable for giving UEFA and City the decision and then it's up to the clubs what they do with it. With that in mind, I think it's very likely City know now.

That delay was requested awhile back, there's no way CAS had informed either party by that date.

 

[alexmcity]

Can we be confident that City are confident that we've won at CAS?

Yes.

Can we be confident that City are confident because the bosses already know that we've prevailed at CAS?

No.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Part C, clause 50something onwards. it was posted on here (might have been Murph, apologies of not), a good few pages back and picked up on.

Hence i've been a bit of a broken record about it. They will Definately know before. How much before, hard to tell, but a couple of hours before is not really apt.

Imho, they were told, when they were told the date. I can't see how Cas could contact any given party and say, weve reached a decision heres the date we will announce it, without telling them the decision, when the mechanism is there for that to happen. Any party or their lawyers would be asking to know it, and there would be no justifiable logic for refusing to tell them. So imho, both have knowm since they have known the date. And both agreed to a date change, so both knew at that point, for me.

Thanks, I probably skipped some pages.

I can't see anything obvious about how long before they will be told, but could be wrong. There is a line of telling the results before the reasons, which says:
"The Panel may decide to communicate the operative part of the award to the parties, prior to the reasons. The award shall be enforceable from such notification of the operative part by courier, facsimile and/or electronic mail."

I'm assuming R59 here is the relevant part:
https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/code-procedural-rules.html

 

[theres only one carlito]

If this is correct, I'd see this as a slight positive. I find it hard to believe that club aren't given proper time (48 hours) to prepare for a negative verdict. Less time needed for an upheld appeal.

Surely this decision too push the date back is a agreement between City and UEFA?
Nothing too do with CAS. I also think UEFA have asked for the push back and City have agreed as a token of good faith and class. Fully aware we are cleared of all charges.

 

[HelloCity]

If this is correct, I'd see this as a slight positive. I find it hard to believe that club aren't given proper time (48 hours) to prepare for a negative verdict. Less time needed for an upheld appeal.

Would UEFA not need to prepare for a negative verdict? :)

 

[slbsn]

Surely this decision too push the date back is a agreement between City and UEFA?
Nothing too do with CAS. I also think UEFA have asked for the push back and City have agreed as a token of good faith and class. Fully aware we are cleared of all charges.

It is everything to do with CAS. They release their decision. Timing is CAS' with the consent of the parties.