CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

[DAGW]

Pure water boils at 100C. Due to the impurities in piss it will not boil till it reaches above 109C. I think that’s the most important thing to note from today, I’m sure all will agree

I’m going to need to wait for the full report before I back down, even though thinking about it logically, you’re right.

 

[Barcon]

I’ve been thinking this, I just hope WE don’t treat Newcastle the way we’ve been treated if that time comes

Well, if it's true that they are part of the hatefull 8, I hope they go tits up.

But I get your point.

 

[The Clansman]

I presume it was ghost-written, probably by Paul Hayward, who recently produced this nauseating partisan drivel https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...lk-alone-is-most-beautiful-song-39321604.html

Hayward seems to be working for both the Telegraph and the Irish Independent at present. Obviously not written by Carragher in any event.

Yes, I think you may be right. It certainly sounds like the sort of sanctimonious drivel that Hayward has previous for...

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

If we go by the Chelsea money, another 5 years and everyone will accept us and let us into their hearts.

If we continue to win at the expense of the rags and dippers, I doubt that very much.

Too much vested media interest in those two.

 

[HelloCity]

I think it's probably for the best that you admit that you just can't stand the bloke because he's a United fan.

Some people are so ridiculously entrenched in tribalism that they can't see how ridiculous they sound.

Sam is one of the good guys out there. And one of the few who actually defends City.

I have the right to my opinion. I agree that Sam isn’t one of the weirdos like Delaney and is probably a decent guy, but I do find that over the last couple of years he hasn’t really pained the picture of a team which is one of the most successful in the history of English football. What got on my tits the most was his consistent efforts to portray an unstable ship by always playing the ‘Pep is leaving soon’ card. He was even dropping hints he might leave for Juve last summer. No other team has to put up with that, especially one that’s doing as well as ours.

 

[Bellamy's Caddy]

I would love the Newcastle takeover to happen. I don't agree with FFP and more importantly, anyone who can come in and take some of the heat off City is more than welcome.

I think a lot of City fans are of the same mind. We're not looking for a closed shop of select clubs only that can compete for the title, all we ever wanted was for City to have a chance to compete for trophies. Unfortunately with the way football had gone a wealthy owner gave us that opportunity.

I remember Abramovich coming in and being pleased that someone might break up the rags and Arsenal's dominance. I thought it was good for the league that another team might win it for a change.

When UEFA are unfairly coming after City as has now been proven its hugely frustrating, but FFP etc is more unfair on the rest of the league. We got in just in time, but for any other club with aspirations of competing its virtually impossible now.

 

[Barcon]

If we continue to win at the expense of the rags and dippers, I doubt that very much.

Too much vested media interest in those two.

It was sarcasm mate ; )

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The detail may very well be as you say but I feel it is likely to be blocked from publication. In which case my point is that UEFA were unable to make their guilty verdict stand up in a legal rather than kangaroo court.
However, if the "hateful 8" letters were actually sent it may in deed have been seen as interference in their role and may have given proof of the vendetta against us in their independent court.

Yes, it may well be that the 'letter(s)' from the H8 will have done Uefa's case against us more harm than good - if good is the right word in anything Uefa do!

 

[BlueNirvana]

So the details of the case may never be released now ? Hmmmm

 

[DrBlueBob]

I presume it was ghost-written, probably by Paul Hayward, who recently produced this nauseating partisan drivel https://www.independent.ie/sport/so...lk-alone-is-most-beautiful-song-39321604.html

Hayward seems to be working for both the Telegraph and the Irish Independent at present. Obviously not written by Carragher in any event.

Fair comments. A little edit in the interests of humility is probably asking a bit much of them.

 

[M18CTID]

I wonder if Watzke is some sort of stooge for Bayern at Dortmund. Bayern have a lot of influence over Dortmund after bailing them out financially.

Don’t know about that but it’s laughable how much they lube up and allow themselves to be bent over by Bayern, regardless of the bail out.
To that end, I’ve never understood the Dortmund love-in from some of our fans. Sure, the Yellow Wall is a sight to behold but there are many other German clubs with atmospheres equally as good. I’ve seen City play European games at Schalke (twice), Hamburg, Bayern (twice), Dortmund, and Gladbach. I’ve also been to watch 1860 Munich play a run of the mill league match in Bundesliga 2. I can honestly say that with the exception of Schalke the first time when we beat them 2-0 in the UEFA Cup and largely outsang their fans on the night, that the Dortmund atmosphere was no better than any of the others, and in some cases worse, despite them beating us 1-0 in a match where we’d already failed to qualify for the next round. Don’t get me wrong, they were quite loud but they saved the loudest noise of the night for booing Balotelli when he came on as a sub for some weird reason.

 

[Barcon]

So the details of the case may never be released now ? Hmmmm

As long as it gets reported that we wanted to release the details but uefa refused....

 

[Citizen in Pakistan]

I cant think of another industry where new investors are discouraged by regulators to protect the established players. It feels like a firm whose membership is closed of. This won't remain the case though, sooner or later this will be challenged by a owner/club looking to take on established elite.

UEFA now wants to reconcile with city? Lol they just want to save face. Probably the proposal given to khaldoon would be that we, ll shut up but don't take this any further for our sake.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

It was sarcasm mate ; )

Sorry only half awake .

 

[blueinsa]

Barca are effectively managing a debt of £1.5 billion!

The real sting is it will never get paid back either and i do mean never yet FFP thinks its fine.

 

[BlueNirvana]

As long as it gets reported that we wanted to release the details but uefa refused....

Exactly what i was thinking

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Don’t know about that but it’s laughable how much they lube up and allow themselves to be bent over by Bayern, regardless of the bail out.
To that end, I’ve never understood the Dortmund love-in from some of our fans. Sure, the Yellow Wall is a sight to behold but there are many other German clubs with atmospheres equally as good. I’ve seen City play European games at Schalke (twice), Hamburg, Bayern (twice), Dortmund, and Gladbach. I’ve also been to watch 1860 Munich play a run of the mill league match in Bundesliga 2. I can honestly say that with the exception of Schalke the first time when we beat them 2-0 in the UEFA Cup and largely outsang their fans on the night, that the Dortmund atmosphere was no better than any of the others, and in some cases worse, despite them beating us 1-0 in a match where we’d already failed to qualify for the next round. Don’t get me wrong, they were quite loud but they saved the loudest noise of the night for booing Balotelli when he came on as a sub for some weird reason.

The best I have seen was Pozan and Aris away! The German stadia are great (and the country) but I feel the atmosphere (with megaphones etc) is a bit staged. It is particularly bad at Bayern. Hamburg was good. Poznan was just mental for 90 minutes.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

It’s all part of this peculiar post-truth trumpian world we now inhabit, where people believe demonstrable lies before the truth because the lies are more comfortable and sit better with their point of view.

The lies require no thought, no analysis, not even the slightest attempt at any sort of critical thinking no matter how glaringly obvious the lie is.
You repeat it again and again and with each repetition it becomes more believable.

It sways public opinion and even wins general elections and referendums.

The lie is now the most powerful weapon on the planet.

Joseph Goebbels likes this quote.

It is unfortunately true what you say although its nothing new and the concept of propaganda is an old one. Its effects can be seen in the absolute shit storm occurring in the USA where a game show host and failed businessman rules the roost by Twitter and the whole of the GOP are shit scared of the inane ramblings of an increasingly despotic totalitarian whose failed leadership is flushing the country down the toilet. Much though I titter at the yanks misfortune and schadenfreude as they voted the imbecile in you can start to see the evidence of a weak USA as Russian and Chinese Secret Services operate unhindered in Western societies. Cozy Bear for Christmas anyone?

Where are the worlds free thinkers and public servants who havent sold their backbone for 30 pieces of silver? They need to stand up and soon!

 

[cookster]

With the Goldman Sachs loan - Barca are effectively managing a debt of £1.5 billion! The interest payment alone on that is going to be circa £75 per season - then they have to pay the capital off too over 20 years on the £800m from Goldman's (another circa £40m a year) . I'm sure Barca have a wildly optimistic business case showing a whole range of new revenues streams from the new stadium etc. but often these are never realised. This venture will end in a local government bale out or bankruptcy - which as the OP has said will just mean the debtors get a few pence and Barca will carry on afresh without sanction. And where is FFP in all of this?

Goldman Sachs are doing loans of £1.5B at £75 per season, can you apply online? I'll have a bit of that ;)

 

[HelloCity]

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