They just hired Pirlo as the new manager for Juve.
Why is poch still our Of work?
And what category did Manuel Pellegrini fall into when he was appointed by the exact same individuals appointing our next manager? Is Manuel a serial winner or influencer? I would guess neither.
So what is your point with regards our next appointment?
Kompany or Vierra?
Having said that Julian Nagelsman is someone without previous success I would be willing to take a punt on.
correct. pellegrini is not a top class manager. the team that pep inherited from him were an absolute mess.
the reason why so many top class sides (real madrid, bayern munich, chelsea, arsenal, manchester united) are now turning to ex-players, is because they've worked out that just because someone's done a really good job overachieving at villarreal/malaga (or everton, or southampton/tottenham, or swansea/leicester), that's not usually reliable evidence that they'll succeed at a top class side, because the challenges are very different and expectations are a lot higher.
so the owners/directors of football are instead taking a punt on fan-favourites. someone who at least has a meaningful connection to the club, and who understands the club's culture.
there's no easy answer to your question. i'd love to see bielsa manage us, but i accept it's unlikely. ideally vieira or kompany would have taken the assistant's job and had a few years under pep's tutelage. but unfortunately those are both out the window as well.
given the options available to us
1) pep manages us until he dies
2) arteta's made a good start at arsenal, and i'd be monitoring his progress next season
3) lillo would be a decent option, in terms of replicating pep's style
4) if we can't appoint someone with direct insight into pep's methods, i guess we'd have to settle for a pochettino type appointment, though provisionally i'd prefer tuchel (given he'll have title-winning experience at psg) or nagelsmann (given he's ridiculously young to have coached in the champions league)
having said all that, i don't actually think pochettino would be a bad appointment. but we'd very clearly be appointing him based on his potential to become a top class manager, rather than on his current status as a top class manager.
because if you go you're whole managerial career without winning anything, and without influencing another manager who wins things, you absolutely
cannot be considered a top class manager.
That would fit Pep's philosophy- keep moving for a new cultural experience. Decent timing too.Not sure if it's been mentioned before. But Tim Vickery claimed a few months back, that Pep will probably extend until the end of the 21-22 season and then take the Brazil job after the WC
The football got steadily worse under him.I wouldn't call two League Cup's or a Champions League semi final as completely backwards.... At best he kept things ticking over though.
The football got steadily worse under him.
Signed Lampard on loan and did not use him correctly.
Got us to a Champions league semi final but was so out of his depth we were clueless in the second leg.
His FA Cup record was really poor.
Nice man but nothing special as a manager.
I love how the same couple of journo know what he is going to do,they thought he was going to the rags till the day he got hereNot sure if it's been mentioned before. But Tim Vickery claimed a few months back, that Pep will probably extend until the end of the 21-22 season and then take the Brazil job after the WC
I think people are bring harsh on Pochettino here.
When he came to Southampton he wasn't regarded as a great manager and was derided for not speaking English. He did a very good job there as well. I don't know the exact dates sobso forgivehforgive me but hephe made players Mane?), Shaw, Rodriguez, Lambert, Lovren(?) and it's no accident many of them went on to Liverpool.
He went to Spurs and took them to a CL final and top 4 contenders. Harry Kane becomes a world class player and Dele Alli becomes a very good player. If they had cashed in on them you'd be looking at 250m plus.
He's been at clubs that quite simply aren't expected to win trophies. He wasn't backed in the transfer market and really I don't know what else he could do there. If he'd had won a cup then people would dismiss that as well! Plus he's not very old.
Given the resources he had at Spurs and Southampton and what he achieved there's every indication he will be a very good manager if backed.
Pep will leave one day and I wouldn't be unhappy with Pochettino.
yep, yep he is. oh coup must put my glasses on i thought you said c#ntHe's not as good as Pep but he's a massive coup
After a very good first season he took City backwards.
This gentleman is correct.They just hired Pirlo as the new manager for Juve.
Pellers fell into the seat warming category. If Soriano and Khaldoon were sure Pep would arrive in reasonable time, thay could not appoint a really top class guy who would know it was temporary.
Edit PS. Pep falls into both categories: a serial winner who has his own version of the 'game of position' and has changed the English game for ever. We are so lucky.
When Pep leaves I want Jorge Sampaoli.
Don’t want Arteta, Pochettino or Vieira.
The other I’d take is Bielsa, needs to be someone who will carry over Peps work, not someone who wants to undo everything and play a different way.
I rather we did that even if it meant not winning anything, I want the identity of how we play now to stay with the club through all age groups to the first team.