CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

frothy said:
I put Aljezeera news on this morning to get a different view on the news, there was a documentary on about Muddy Waters that look into dodgy share dealings, i don't understand any of this kind of stuff but Shiekh Mansour kept getting a mention and also showed him talking at a conference, does anybody Prestwich Blue ect no anything about it?
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https://m.economic times.com/nri/nris-in-news/br-shetty-the-staggering-rise-and-incredible-fall-of-a-billionaire/articleshow/75381757.cms


The above seems to explain, Sheikh Mansour as the patron of Centurion investments was the main investor in a company that has become involved in alleged accountancy malpractice, so he was mentioned only as an investor in the company and not any involvement in any malpractice.
 
frothy said:
I put Aljezeera news on this morning to get a different view on the news, there was a documentary on about Muddy Waters that look into dodgy share dealings, i don't understand any of this kind of stuff but Shiekh Mansour kept getting a mention and also showed him talking at a conference, does anybody Prestwich Blue ect no anything about it?
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Lets hope that Muddy Waters are shorting United shares.
 
frothy said:
He's an American short seller aparantly
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Ah. Got it now. Thought you were talking about the legendary Blues artist.

This is to do with a company called NMC Health, which was set up by an Indian businessman in Abu Dhabi. It seems there has been some dodgy accounting and the shares dropped heavily. There's a short-selling company called Muddy Waters. They sell shares they haven't got, in the hope they're going to drop in price so they can buy them back for less than they sold for and make a profit.

They also seem to specialise in uncovering accounting issues at companies, where revenue or assets are overstated, or liabilities understated. They sold NMC short and its since been discovered that they'd significantly under-reported their debts, by about $2bn. Sheikh Mansour appears to have been a shareholder at one point but doesn't seem to be a major shareholder now. It also seems that Mubadala is considering taking a big stake in the company. Presumably they feel there's something worth investing in once all the shit has been cleared.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Ah. Got it now. Thought you were talking about the legendary Blues artist.

This is to do with a company called NMC Health, which was set up by an Indian businessman in Abu Dhabi. It seems there has been some dodgy accounting and the shares dropped heavily. There's a short-selling company called Muddy Waters. They sell shares they haven't got, in the hope they're going to drop in price so they can buy them back for less than they sold for and make a profit.

They also seem to specialise in uncovering accounting issues at companies, where revenue or assets are overstated, or liabilities understated. They sold NMC short and its since been discovered that they'd significantly under-reported their debts, by about $2bn. Sheikh Mansour appears to have been a shareholder at one point but doesn't seem to be a major shareholder now. It also seems that Mubadala is considering taking a big stake in the company. Presumably they feel there's something worth investing in once all the shit has been cleared.
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Thank you for the explanation
 
A paper from Ulrich's (one of the CAS panel) research assistants, quite critical of the decision. Probably ends the 2-0 argument.

The duty to cooperate - questions arising from the Man City v UEFA decision - LawInSport

This article is written by Björn Hessert, University of Zurich. By way of disclosure, Björn works as a research assistant for Prof. Dr. Ulrich Haas, who was one of the three CAS arbitrators in the Manchester City FC v UEFA proceedings. Björn would like to stress that he himself was not...
www.lawinsport.com www.lawinsport.com
 
moomba said:
A paper from Ulrich's (one of the CAS panel) research assistants, quite critical of the decision. Probably ends the 2-0 argument.

The duty to cooperate - questions arising from the Man City v UEFA decision - LawInSport

This article is written by Björn Hessert, University of Zurich. By way of disclosure, Björn works as a research assistant for Prof. Dr. Ulrich Haas, who was one of the three CAS arbitrators in the Manchester City FC v UEFA proceedings. Björn would like to stress that he himself was not...
www.lawinsport.com www.lawinsport.com
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Ends the argument how? Not willing to sign up for it in case of total twaddle
 
Uwe Already said:
Ends the argument how? Not willing to sign up for it in case of total twaddle
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As in, the guy who's written this article is an assistant to Haas, one of the two non-chair arbitrators. He's gone on criticise the CAS decision. So if Haas thinks similarly too his assistant, it would imply according to @moomba that Haas would have argued/voted against City at CAS. Meaning it's unlikely that majority decisions were 2-0 instead of 2-1/
 
moomba said:
A paper from Ulrich's (one of the CAS panel) research assistants, quite critical of the decision. Probably ends the 2-0 argument.

The duty to cooperate - questions arising from the Man City v UEFA decision - LawInSport

This article is written by Björn Hessert, University of Zurich. By way of disclosure, Björn works as a research assistant for Prof. Dr. Ulrich Haas, who was one of the three CAS arbitrators in the Manchester City FC v UEFA proceedings. Björn would like to stress that he himself was not...
www.lawinsport.com www.lawinsport.com
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Please don’t take offence , why exactly would you post this.

Surely , after 10 fuckin years of thIs bullshit , you could move on.
 
toffee balls said:
Please don’t take offence , why exactly would you post this.

Surely , after 10 fuckin years of thIs bullshit , you could move on.
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I'm interested to hear what some of the more informed people on here think of his argument.

Perhaps those desperate to move on should do so in other threads and leave people wanting to discuss the case to do so in here.
 
I'm still on page 703 and my take is that, basically:
1- City scared the shit out of the cartel at the prospect of dominating Europe.
2- The Cartel put a plan together to stop City off the pitch and came out with FFP, meanwhile their refs (Mateu LaHoz et al) would do the dirty work on the pitch. Later on VAR came to their rescue.
3- after moving their own goalposts Uefa crippled Pellegrini's side with sanctions. Khaldoon said we'd take the slap on the wrist. Dipper cunts failed FPP but it was swept under the red carpet.
4- While City being compliant and profitable, the cartel decided to attack again by hiring a hacker. Littlewoods proved it goes unpunished with City's scout system hacked.
5- The hacked emails were leaked by dipper **** Parry to his lap dog Tariq Panja and his minions in the WhatsApp group; and rag scum Gill through german rags hired Der Spiegel to doctor a case for UEFA, one **** Christoff Wankerbaum whats-his-name being the operative.
6- Cartel got giddy and decided "this is it" and proceed to ban City. Incompetent cartel shoot themselves in the foot by leaking the proceeds to Panja and der Spiegel their poorly doctored case.
7- City blatantly disregarded those nosey nine nonces kangaroo court charges and appealed to CAS.
8- City won the appeal, red piss boiling everywhere.

Am I right?
 
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